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:::This armor is described as silver alternating with blue. I'm imagining that it looks kind of like the Arbiter armor worn in the terminals set during the Prophet-Elite war (which wouldn't be surprising, since this rank dates back to those days). Ultra armor is more pearl-white and red. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 22:37, 8 December 2014 (EST) | :::This armor is described as silver alternating with blue. I'm imagining that it looks kind of like the Arbiter armor worn in the terminals set during the Prophet-Elite war (which wouldn't be surprising, since this rank dates back to those days). Ultra armor is more pearl-white and red. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 22:37, 8 December 2014 (EST) | ||
(reset indent) Is this rank/title really written "field commander" in a lower-case, as Braidenvl said? (I don't have ''Broken Circle'') In '' | (reset indent) Is this rank/title really written "field commander" in a lower-case, as Braidenvl said? (I don't have ''Broken Circle'') In ''Halo: The Flood'' (2003: page 150; 2010: page 166), [[Noga 'Putumee]] is referred to as a '''Field Master''' (formal title) and as a '''field commander''' (a descriptor) on the same page. It could be that field commander is a descriptor or a casual synonym for Field Master. Later on (2003: page 217; 2010: pages 235-236), Noga is also referred to twice as a '''field officer''' and once as an '''officer''', which I suppose are also descriptors. | ||
In ''[[Halo: Spartan Assault]]'' ("[[Mission 8: Hunt for the Sangheili Command]]": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofyQqTZ9_Ys video]), the mission briefing refers to '''officers''', and later the in-game objective is to eliminate '''commanders'''. These Elites wear the golden combat harness. Though they're never explicitly referred to as Field Masters, the descriptors from ''The Flood'' make me think that they are indeed Field Masters. | In ''[[Halo: Spartan Assault]]'' ("[[Mission 8: Hunt for the Sangheili Command]]": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofyQqTZ9_Ys video]), the mission briefing refers to '''officers''', and later the in-game objective is to eliminate '''commanders'''. These Elites wear the golden combat harness. Though they're never explicitly referred to as Field Masters, the descriptors from ''The Flood'' make me think that they are indeed Field Masters. | ||
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:An [[Eye]] in ''Broken Circle'' refers to Ussa as such: "''designation is Significant Field Commander''". That's the only reference to field commander in the novel and given how "significant" is also capitalized, it is likely a descriptor. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 20:30, 10 April 2016 (EDT) | :An [[Eye]] in ''Broken Circle'' refers to Ussa as such: "''designation is Significant Field Commander''". That's the only reference to field commander in the novel and given how "significant" is also capitalized, it is likely a descriptor. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 20:30, 10 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
::I agree, it definitely sounds like a descriptive designation made up by the San'Shyuum rather than a proper rank. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:18, 12 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
The only reference for this being a specific Covenant rank is in Halo: Broken Circle during the earlier days of the Covenant, which was also held by a heretic. I think that we have to make the statement that this was likely an ancient rank and more contemporary uses of the term are relating to Field Masters like in Halo: The Flood. As all other sources seem to suggest that by the time of the 9th Age of Reclamation and later days of the Covenant that "field commanders" are referring to Zealots. | |||
[[User:Samdoo|Samdoo]] ([[User talk:Samdoo|talk]]) 11:12, 9 July 2016 (EDT) |
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Okay, this rank just makes the Covenant Military chain of command that much more complicated. How does this rank fit in with General, Field Master, and Field Marshal? Are these ranks / titles directly related to each other (General gets promoted to Zealot (Field Master) gets promoted to Field Commander gets promoted to Field Marshal)? The thoughts and ideas of other fans would be very much appreciated.
- Actually, Broken Circle only uses "field commander" in a lower-case, generic sense. It may be synonymous with Field Master but I don't think the title is even that specific. The only thing the novel really establishes is that pre-Covenant Sangheili commanders wore silver armor with blue trim rather than the gold they wore under the Covenant. --Our vengeance is at hand. (Talk to me.) 22:02, 10 November 2014 (EST)
- Isn't this the same color armor Ultras where? Lord 'Themee (talk) 19:22, 8 December 2014 (EST)
- This armor is described as silver alternating with blue. I'm imagining that it looks kind of like the Arbiter armor worn in the terminals set during the Prophet-Elite war (which wouldn't be surprising, since this rank dates back to those days). Ultra armor is more pearl-white and red. -- SFH (talk) 22:37, 8 December 2014 (EST)
- Isn't this the same color armor Ultras where? Lord 'Themee (talk) 19:22, 8 December 2014 (EST)
(reset indent) Is this rank/title really written "field commander" in a lower-case, as Braidenvl said? (I don't have Broken Circle) In Halo: The Flood (2003: page 150; 2010: page 166), Noga 'Putumee is referred to as a Field Master (formal title) and as a field commander (a descriptor) on the same page. It could be that field commander is a descriptor or a casual synonym for Field Master. Later on (2003: page 217; 2010: pages 235-236), Noga is also referred to twice as a field officer and once as an officer, which I suppose are also descriptors.
In Halo: Spartan Assault ("Mission 8: Hunt for the Sangheili Command": video), the mission briefing refers to officers, and later the in-game objective is to eliminate commanders. These Elites wear the golden combat harness. Though they're never explicitly referred to as Field Masters, the descriptors from The Flood make me think that they are indeed Field Masters.
Note also that Halo: Combat Evolved: Prima's Official Strategy Guide never refers to "Zealots", instead calling golden Elites "Commanders". Halo: The Great Journey: The Art of Building Worlds (page 52) uses the term field commanders (same descriptor as in The Flood) for golden Elites.
My conclusion is that Field Master is the proper title, and "field commander" and "field officer" can be used as descriptors. "Commander" and "officer" too, but they may lead to unneeded confusion with real Commanders (a rank/title of its own, in Halo 4 and Halo 5) and Officers (subclass of the Major rank). Imrane-117 (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2016 (EDT)
- An Eye in Broken Circle refers to Ussa as such: "designation is Significant Field Commander". That's the only reference to field commander in the novel and given how "significant" is also capitalized, it is likely a descriptor. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 20:30, 10 April 2016 (EDT)
The only reference for this being a specific Covenant rank is in Halo: Broken Circle during the earlier days of the Covenant, which was also held by a heretic. I think that we have to make the statement that this was likely an ancient rank and more contemporary uses of the term are relating to Field Masters like in Halo: The Flood. As all other sources seem to suggest that by the time of the 9th Age of Reclamation and later days of the Covenant that "field commanders" are referring to Zealots. Samdoo (talk) 11:12, 9 July 2016 (EDT)