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There is no evidence shown to clarify the actual terrain of Installation 07. | There is no evidence shown to clarify the actual terrain of Installation 07. | ||
[[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC) | [[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:You mean other than what appears in Halo 3? --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]] | :You mean other than what appears in Halo 3? --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]]File:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 19:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
If someone where to show me where in halo 3 this information came from, then it might believe it. However, looking at it in the ark cutscene and denoting it having a certain terrain based on its color is somewhat illogical. | If someone where to show me where in halo 3 this information came from, then it might believe it. However, looking at it in the ark cutscene and denoting it having a certain terrain based on its color is somewhat illogical. | ||
[[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 21:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | [[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 21:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:The source is right there on the page. See it for yourself. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]] | :The source is right there on the page. See it for yourself. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]]File:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 21:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Thats not Installation 07, thats my Installation 01 picture. I swear thats 01. [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC) | :Thats not Installation 07, thats my Installation 01 picture. I swear thats 01. [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
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::Additional thought: There -IS- evidence the forerunners used base 10 - '343 Guilty Spark'. If using Base-7, the operator of Installation 03 should have been 0100 Guilty Spark (and every monitor would have been a 1 followed by x-1 0's, so 01 010 0100 01000 etc). -[[User talk:StarLion|StarLion]] 13:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC) | ::Additional thought: There -IS- evidence the forerunners used base 10 - '343 Guilty Spark'. If using Base-7, the operator of Installation 03 should have been 0100 Guilty Spark (and every monitor would have been a 1 followed by x-1 0's, so 01 010 0100 01000 etc). -[[User talk:StarLion|StarLion]] 13:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::I don't mean to necro this topic, I'm more just adding this for the benefit of future readers. Subscript denotes an alternate base in mathematical notation (10<sub>7</sub> = 7<sub>10</sub> = 7), whereas in programming, a leading zero denotes octal (base 8) numbers (010 = 8). <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> | :::I don't mean to necro this topic, I'm more just adding this for the benefit of future readers. Subscript denotes an alternate base in mathematical notation (10<sub>7</sub> = 7<sub>10</sub> = 7), whereas in programming, a leading zero denotes octal (base 8) numbers (010 = 8). <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 15:17, September 5, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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There is still a possibility of the flood there. The 5th Halo ring had an outbreak, maybe this one had a problem too?[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 13:56, September 25, 2010 (UTC) | There is still a possibility of the flood there. The 5th Halo ring had an outbreak, maybe this one had a problem too?[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 13:56, September 25, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Yeah, but not enough to change the fucking surface color :/ Vegerot goes RAWR! | Yeah, but not enough to change the fucking surface color :/ Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 08:29, 3 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
==Megastructure== | ==Megastructure== | ||
Can someone with the Essential Visual Guide add the Megastructure template instead of the Halo ring Template? Vegerot goes RAWR! | Can someone with the Essential Visual Guide add the Megastructure template instead of the Halo ring Template? Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 08:29, 3 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
== Halo: Primordium == | == Halo: Primordium == | ||
The article states that this ring appears in Primordium. Is that true, because I don't have the book yet?-- | The article states that this ring appears in Primordium. Is that true, because I don't have the book yet?-- [[User:Spartacus|<span style="Color:black; font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 130%">Commander Spartacus</span>]] ~ '''''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ŤДŁĶ</span>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ</span>]] ~ [[Special:EmailUser/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĚṂДǏŁ</span>]]''''' 16:39, 5 January 2012 (EST) | ||
:Yes, it's the setting for most of the book.[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 01:08, 11 January 2012 (EST) | :Yes, it's the setting for most of the book.[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 01:08, 11 January 2012 (EST) | ||
Spoiler, but yes, it is. I thought it was Installation 03 for most of the book but it is confirmed to be Installation 07 on page 341 of Primordium. Interesting...Humanity already knows the location of 4 Halos, Installation 03, Installation 04 (or what's left of it, anyways), Installation 05, and Installation 07. Vegerot goes RAWR! | Spoiler, but yes, it is. I thought it was Installation 03 for most of the book but it is confirmed to be Installation 07 on page 341 of Primordium. Interesting...Humanity already knows the location of 4 Halos, Installation 03, Installation 04 (or what's left of it, anyways), Installation 05, and Installation 07. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 19:50, 14 January 2012 (EST)! | ||
:I say, the Halo Universe is getting a lot more interesting in the Post-War Era.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | :I say, the Halo Universe is getting a lot more interesting in the Post-War Era.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | ||
::Wait, 2500s Humanity found 07? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:57, 14 January 2012 (EST) | ::Wait, 2500s Humanity found 07? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:57, 14 January 2012 (EST) | ||
:::No, I was just lying above >.< Vegerot goes RAWR! | :::No, I was just lying above >.< Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 22:04, 14 January 2012 (EST)! | ||
::::No offense meant, I havn't read the book and havn't heard that before. I just though you might have been including the human characters in the book. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:44, 14 January 2012 (EST) | ::::No offense meant, I havn't read the book and havn't heard that before. I just though you might have been including the human characters in the book. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:44, 14 January 2012 (EST) | ||
==Halo 4== | ==Halo 4== | ||
Is it confirmed that Installation 07 is the Halo that appears in Halo 4's terminals? Because I was looking over the timeline of events on this page, and it seems impossible that the Didact could have used the Composer on 07's human population - they were relocated to the Ark after the battle on the ring [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 01:22, 20 November 2012 (EST) | Is it confirmed that Installation 07 is the Halo that appears in Halo 4's terminals? Because I was looking over the timeline of events on this page, and it seems impossible that the Didact could have used the Composer on 07's human population - they were relocated to the Ark after the battle on the ring [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 01:22, 20 November 2012 (EST) | ||
:I've been thinking about the same thing; it would be hard to match the terminals with the timeline and the Halo's fate as presented in ''Primordium''. It's more likely that this is simply a different Halo - as for why humans were kept on more than one Halo ring, it probably has something to do with them being special - perhaps an extra contingency plan by the Librarian to ensure their survival even if one of the conservation facilities became compromised. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:31, 20 November 2012 (EST) | |||
Installation 05 also had seemingly human looking structures. Maybe this is actually that ring. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 01:34, 20 November 2012 (EST) | |||
==Fractures Cover== | |||
Read the last anonymous story in Fractures. The IsoDidact recalls looking upon Zeta Halo through the fractured window of his ship as he leaves it behind. This is a clear reference to the cover. -- Japeth555 | |||
:That does sound like a direct reference but that installation still doesn't resemble Zeta Halo at all. Because of that, I'm not sure if this should be the main infobox image. Maybe it should be added as a possible reference to Installation 07 instead. <font size="3">[[User:Lautrec|<font color="Teal">Lautrec</font>]][[User talk:Lautrec|<font color="Teal"> of Carim</font>]]</font> <sup><font size="2">[[Special:Contributions/Lautrec|<font color="Teal">|contribs|</font>]]</font></sup> 07:47, 21 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
In what way does it not resemble it? Make sure you're up to speed on the reason for why the hologram on the Ark in Halo 3 is the way it is. --Japeth555 | |||
:I didn't know Installation 07 used to be different. Sorry about that. You should still try to include the existing image (hologram) in the article, since there aren't a lot of depictions of that installation. <font size="3">[[User:Lautrec|<font color="Teal">Lautrec</font>]][[User talk:Lautrec|<font color="Teal"> of Carim</font>]]</font> <sup><font size="2">[[Special:Contributions/Lautrec|<font color="Teal">|contribs|</font>]]</font></sup> | |||
== Not the Halo used against the Prophets' homeworld == | |||
If you read ''[[Halo: Cryptum]]'' closely, its clear that Installation 07 and the Halo at [[Janjur Qom]] are not the same one. During the confrontation on the planet, Bornstellar actually realizes that [[Faber]] is panicking because he lost a Halo and Faber's reaction suggests he was hoping that they and the San'Shyuum could provide clues as to the [[Primordial]]'s motives and where he might've taken Installation 07. And then on page 275 as Bornstellar is learning aboard the ''[[Seedling Star]]'' right after the test at [[Charum Hakkor]] is spoken about: "But then, a second Halo had been used to punish the [[San'Shyuum]]."--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 15:10, April 16, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:I was always confused how the Tudejsa could still be alive after it was fired.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 16:11, April 16, 2019 (EDT)TheEld | |||
::Well, there's your answer. It does make more sense to have been a different Halo ring as well. When I was reading that book for the first time recently I was honestly getting really confused because this article (and several others) was talking about how Faber had Installation 07 used to sterilize the Prophets' homeworld while Bornstellar was realizing that Faber apparently lost a Halo and the captive and Faber's reaction confirmed it. Bornstellar was also considering during that chapter whether Faber had more than one as an explanation then there was that line on page 275. That whole chapter in context suggests that Faber was not only seeking information on the Flood cure, but on the Primordial, possibly because he thought it might help him find his missing Halo.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 16:18, April 16, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::Good work. We are grateful. *thumbs up*[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 16:27, April 16, 2019 (EDT)TheEld | |||
::::No problem. A confusing point actually could be that when Bornstellar overhears the conversation between his father and [[Splendid-Dust-of-Ancient-Suns]], part of the overheard conversation is that the Halo and [[Mendicant Bias]] went missing ''after'' the action at Janjur Qom. However, that's before the page stating that it was a second Halo and after the part where [[Sustaining Wind]] brings up hearing that Faber lost something incredibly important that couldn't be hidden and Bornstellar realized it was a Halo. The Council probably only learned of it after that battle because, as was pointed out to Faber, it was too dangerous and important to be able to be hidden.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 16:30, April 16, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::::Actually, the thing with the Tudejsa is interesting because this Halo ''was'' fired upon [[Maethrillian]] and they survived. Maybe this Halo's effects doesn't kill those upon its surface due to its unidirectional pulse instead of omnidirectional like the newer Halos. (That must've been upgraded for it to work as part of the current Halo Array) The group on [[Omega Halo]] survived the firing during the [[Battle of the greater Ark]]. Besides the firing of [[Installation 08]] destroying all of the Flood upon its surface I don't think we've ever been given an explanation for what happens to living organisms on a Halo when its fired and whether or not they would survive the pulse and why or why not they would or wouldn't.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 23:59, April 16, 2019 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 22:59, April 16, 2019
Untitled[edit]
There is no evidence shown to clarify the actual terrain of Installation 07. Covenant Ghost 15:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- You mean other than what appears in Halo 3? --EDFile:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]] 19:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
If someone where to show me where in halo 3 this information came from, then it might believe it. However, looking at it in the ark cutscene and denoting it having a certain terrain based on its color is somewhat illogical. Covenant Ghost 21:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- The source is right there on the page. See it for yourself. --EDFile:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]] 21:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thats not Installation 07, thats my Installation 01 picture. I swear thats 01. Kap2310 17:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Size[edit]
Where are we getting this idea that the rings are all different sizes? It says that this ring is smaller - where is this coming from? Diaboy 09:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Most likely from the scene in Halo 2 when 343 Guilty Spark explained that all of the remaning Halos where put on standby. The becon had a holographic display of the instellations, and they each had varrying sizes. 24.144.151.36 05:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
i still think ascendant justice has all there descriptions and pictures of the halo rings backwards because we only know of 2 rings having earth like envrinoments, 04 and 05, and yet the show only 04 and 03 having them...SPARTANF-259 18:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Monitor[edit]
Where's the evidence that the Monitor "117649 Submissive Abhorrent" exists?
Number System[edit]
Is it true that it would be called 07? In Iris, AdjutantReflex had a countdown in base seven. If the Forerunner number system was in base seven, this would be Installation 10. Is there alternate evidence the Forerunners used base ten? --Dragonclaws(talk) 23:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Um, Wha...What?--Unreal Admin 23:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- Base seven - 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 13 14 15 16... and so on. That is what he's referring to. He is asking if Installation 07 would be Installation 10, citing the fact that AdjutantReflex had a countdown in base seven, rather than base ten.00:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- That would more likely make the installation's 'name' 010 - the leading 0 used to indicate a non-base10 number. -StarLion 13:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Additional thought: There -IS- evidence the forerunners used base 10 - '343 Guilty Spark'. If using Base-7, the operator of Installation 03 should have been 0100 Guilty Spark (and every monitor would have been a 1 followed by x-1 0's, so 01 010 0100 01000 etc). -StarLion 13:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- I don't mean to necro this topic, I'm more just adding this for the benefit of future readers. Subscript denotes an alternate base in mathematical notation (107 = 710 = 7), whereas in programming, a leading zero denotes octal (base 8) numbers (010 = 8). File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] DavidJCobb 15:17, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
Details[edit]
Guys the surface and atmosphere is UNKNOWN!!!!! check in the halo encyclopedia page 177 Alertfiend 22:41, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
I think we should remove the part about the flood.[edit]
The flood is tan. This halo's surface is yellow. Io is yellow also. That mean's it's natural. I don't think that there are any ligitimate signs of a flood infestation. XSuperGamerTalk 20:26, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
There is still a possibility of the flood there. The 5th Halo ring had an outbreak, maybe this one had a problem too?Blahmarrow 13:56, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, but not enough to change the fucking surface color :/ Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 08:29, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
Megastructure[edit]
Can someone with the Essential Visual Guide add the Megastructure template instead of the Halo ring Template? Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 08:29, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
Halo: Primordium[edit]
The article states that this ring appears in Primordium. Is that true, because I don't have the book yet?-- Commander Spartacus ~ ŤДŁĶ ~ ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ ~ ĚṂДǏŁ 16:39, 5 January 2012 (EST)
- Yes, it's the setting for most of the book.70.34.147.3 01:08, 11 January 2012 (EST)
Spoiler, but yes, it is. I thought it was Installation 03 for most of the book but it is confirmed to be Installation 07 on page 341 of Primordium. Interesting...Humanity already knows the location of 4 Halos, Installation 03, Installation 04 (or what's left of it, anyways), Installation 05, and Installation 07. Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 19:50, 14 January 2012 (EST)!
- I say, the Halo Universe is getting a lot more interesting in the Post-War Era.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs
- Wait, 2500s Humanity found 07? Alex T Snow 21:57, 14 January 2012 (EST)
- No, I was just lying above >.< Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 22:04, 14 January 2012 (EST)!
- No offense meant, I havn't read the book and havn't heard that before. I just though you might have been including the human characters in the book. Alex T Snow 22:44, 14 January 2012 (EST)
- No, I was just lying above >.< Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 22:04, 14 January 2012 (EST)!
- Wait, 2500s Humanity found 07? Alex T Snow 21:57, 14 January 2012 (EST)
Halo 4[edit]
Is it confirmed that Installation 07 is the Halo that appears in Halo 4's terminals? Because I was looking over the timeline of events on this page, and it seems impossible that the Didact could have used the Composer on 07's human population - they were relocated to the Ark after the battle on the ring SPARTAN-347 01:22, 20 November 2012 (EST)
- I've been thinking about the same thing; it would be hard to match the terminals with the timeline and the Halo's fate as presented in Primordium. It's more likely that this is simply a different Halo - as for why humans were kept on more than one Halo ring, it probably has something to do with them being special - perhaps an extra contingency plan by the Librarian to ensure their survival even if one of the conservation facilities became compromised. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 01:31, 20 November 2012 (EST)
Installation 05 also had seemingly human looking structures. Maybe this is actually that ring. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 01:34, 20 November 2012 (EST)
Fractures Cover[edit]
Read the last anonymous story in Fractures. The IsoDidact recalls looking upon Zeta Halo through the fractured window of his ship as he leaves it behind. This is a clear reference to the cover. -- Japeth555
- That does sound like a direct reference but that installation still doesn't resemble Zeta Halo at all. Because of that, I'm not sure if this should be the main infobox image. Maybe it should be added as a possible reference to Installation 07 instead. Lautrec of Carim |contribs| 07:47, 21 September 2016 (EDT)
In what way does it not resemble it? Make sure you're up to speed on the reason for why the hologram on the Ark in Halo 3 is the way it is. --Japeth555
- I didn't know Installation 07 used to be different. Sorry about that. You should still try to include the existing image (hologram) in the article, since there aren't a lot of depictions of that installation. Lautrec of Carim |contribs|
Not the Halo used against the Prophets' homeworld[edit]
If you read Halo: Cryptum closely, its clear that Installation 07 and the Halo at Janjur Qom are not the same one. During the confrontation on the planet, Bornstellar actually realizes that Faber is panicking because he lost a Halo and Faber's reaction suggests he was hoping that they and the San'Shyuum could provide clues as to the Primordial's motives and where he might've taken Installation 07. And then on page 275 as Bornstellar is learning aboard the Seedling Star right after the test at Charum Hakkor is spoken about: "But then, a second Halo had been used to punish the San'Shyuum."--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 15:10, April 16, 2019 (EDT)
- I was always confused how the Tudejsa could still be alive after it was fired.TheEld (talk) 16:11, April 16, 2019 (EDT)TheEld
- Well, there's your answer. It does make more sense to have been a different Halo ring as well. When I was reading that book for the first time recently I was honestly getting really confused because this article (and several others) was talking about how Faber had Installation 07 used to sterilize the Prophets' homeworld while Bornstellar was realizing that Faber apparently lost a Halo and the captive and Faber's reaction confirmed it. Bornstellar was also considering during that chapter whether Faber had more than one as an explanation then there was that line on page 275. That whole chapter in context suggests that Faber was not only seeking information on the Flood cure, but on the Primordial, possibly because he thought it might help him find his missing Halo.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:18, April 16, 2019 (EDT)
- Good work. We are grateful. *thumbs up*TheEld (talk) 16:27, April 16, 2019 (EDT)TheEld
- No problem. A confusing point actually could be that when Bornstellar overhears the conversation between his father and Splendid-Dust-of-Ancient-Suns, part of the overheard conversation is that the Halo and Mendicant Bias went missing after the action at Janjur Qom. However, that's before the page stating that it was a second Halo and after the part where Sustaining Wind brings up hearing that Faber lost something incredibly important that couldn't be hidden and Bornstellar realized it was a Halo. The Council probably only learned of it after that battle because, as was pointed out to Faber, it was too dangerous and important to be able to be hidden.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:30, April 16, 2019 (EDT)
- Actually, the thing with the Tudejsa is interesting because this Halo was fired upon Maethrillian and they survived. Maybe this Halo's effects doesn't kill those upon its surface due to its unidirectional pulse instead of omnidirectional like the newer Halos. (That must've been upgraded for it to work as part of the current Halo Array) The group on Omega Halo survived the firing during the Battle of the greater Ark. Besides the firing of Installation 08 destroying all of the Flood upon its surface I don't think we've ever been given an explanation for what happens to living organisms on a Halo when its fired and whether or not they would survive the pulse and why or why not they would or wouldn't.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:59, April 16, 2019 (EDT)
- No problem. A confusing point actually could be that when Bornstellar overhears the conversation between his father and Splendid-Dust-of-Ancient-Suns, part of the overheard conversation is that the Halo and Mendicant Bias went missing after the action at Janjur Qom. However, that's before the page stating that it was a second Halo and after the part where Sustaining Wind brings up hearing that Faber lost something incredibly important that couldn't be hidden and Bornstellar realized it was a Halo. The Council probably only learned of it after that battle because, as was pointed out to Faber, it was too dangerous and important to be able to be hidden.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:30, April 16, 2019 (EDT)
- Good work. We are grateful. *thumbs up*TheEld (talk) 16:27, April 16, 2019 (EDT)TheEld
- Well, there's your answer. It does make more sense to have been a different Halo ring as well. When I was reading that book for the first time recently I was honestly getting really confused because this article (and several others) was talking about how Faber had Installation 07 used to sterilize the Prophets' homeworld while Bornstellar was realizing that Faber apparently lost a Halo and the captive and Faber's reaction confirmed it. Bornstellar was also considering during that chapter whether Faber had more than one as an explanation then there was that line on page 275. That whole chapter in context suggests that Faber was not only seeking information on the Flood cure, but on the Primordial, possibly because he thought it might help him find his missing Halo.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:18, April 16, 2019 (EDT)