Talk:BR85HB battle rifle

Couldn't this be little more than a typo on Jessica's part? Seems unlikely that they'd add thirty numbers to the designation just because the appearance changed. The fact that every render features "BR55HB SR" should be confirmation enough that this is an upgraded model of the Halo 3 HBSR. Grizzlei ♥ ツ

This is WAY to different visually to be a retcon like that, that'd be quite silly. It's definitly not a member of the 55 family, let alone the same as a 55 variant. Alex T Snow 05:16, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

Grizzlei has a point though, which is more likely? Shea making a typo, or the game designers making a model of a new weapon and labelled it incorrectly? Meh, let's wait for more sources first. —S331 _{(COM • Mission Log • Profile)} 13:29, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

Typo.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 15:24 16 March 2012 (EST)

I am more inclined to believe that the 55 tag is a typo. It is spoken of as an entirely new weapon, and it is far easier to mistype a 55 than an 85. The 55 tag is more familiar, at any rate, and may have been placed as a placeholder (as has happened before) by someone unaware of the weapon's designation. Really, all we should do is wait. - DefeatingLine 18:06, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

Also, most of the M6 pistols have the wrong submodel letter printed on them, the M7 SMG says "5mmx23" instead of "5x23mm", and the M392 DMR has an info plate that is for the MA37. In Halo games, a weapon's textures are the last thing I trust. Alex T Snow 20:50, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

Well, the imprints on the weapons are of the unknown; it could have a hidden detail (rocket launcher being the M41 instead of M19 as revealed in recent literature after almost a decade of being considered as a texture error) or it could be an error (as others pointed out consistently). Then again, this is not the final product and is subjected to change.— subtank 22:15, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

As Subs says, let's not forget that we're seeing in-developmet assets that are probably far from final. The weapon may have been intended as the same rifle with updated attahments initially, then changed to a successor model later in development, and these assets are from before that change happened. Until we actually get the final game, we can't tell. -- Specops306 ^{Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek} 02:51, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

Sorry for going of topic, but what's that about with the M41? Alex T Snow 08:00, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

As I understand, the original CE rocket launcher was M19. Later models were retconned to be M41 launchers, which fired M19 rockets. -- Specops306 ^{Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek} 08:13, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

You can read more of the issues on the rocket launcher's name on its talk page (and check also the archive). :) — subtank 11:09, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

Merge with BR55HBSR

With the recent screenshot updates featuring newer renders, including SPARTAN-IV's armed with battle rifles, it seems more and more that the "BR85HB SR" was just a simple typo from Jessica Shea (bsangel) on the Halo Bulletin. Even despite the rocket launcher argument stated above, we shouldn't assume anything other than what we see in the game and in newly released media. If it turns out that this is in-fact an '85 model, then later we shall unmerge it. But until then, we should conclude that the battle rifle in Halo 4 is simply a cosmetic and gameplay upgrade with the same designation as the Halo 3 rifle.

Support

1. Support — As per above. Grizzlei ♥ ツ