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:::I'm reminded of the concept of "hyperspace routes" in Star Wars - established paths that are safe to use that, if strayed from, can be catastrophic. Perhaps the [[UNSC Astronavigation]] department has its job cut out for it scanning star systems for safe slipspace entry/exit points, mapping and updating the quantum fluctuations of slipspace, and so on, producing long routes that put Harvest at the end of it? | :::I'm reminded of the concept of "hyperspace routes" in Star Wars - established paths that are safe to use that, if strayed from, can be catastrophic. Perhaps the [[UNSC Astronavigation]] department has its job cut out for it scanning star systems for safe slipspace entry/exit points, mapping and updating the quantum fluctuations of slipspace, and so on, producing long routes that put Harvest at the end of it? | ||
:::We also assume Inner Colonies occupy a certain radius around Earth, and that outside of that are Outer colonies, but we already have the Third/Developing/First World situation as an example that spatial distribution doesn't always equate to economic success. For example, geographically we generalise that the First World is the northern hemisphere, and the Third World is the southern hemisphere. Technically, it's all to do with economic factors and international interdependencies, but we think spatially, geographically. In fact, there are eastern European and west Asian third world countries, and both Australia and New Zealand are first world nations. I wonder if Harvest is the exception to a similar rule - the furthest of the Inner Colonies, or perhaps in that transitory state between Inner/Outer status? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:26, 31 January 2012 (EST) | :::We also assume Inner Colonies occupy a certain radius around Earth, and that outside of that are Outer colonies, but we already have the Third/Developing/First World situation as an example that spatial distribution doesn't always equate to economic success. For example, geographically we generalise that the First World is the northern hemisphere, and the Third World is the southern hemisphere. Technically, it's all to do with economic factors and international interdependencies, but we think spatially, geographically. In fact, there are eastern European and west Asian third world countries, and both Australia and New Zealand are first world nations. I wonder if Harvest is the exception to a similar rule - the furthest of the Inner Colonies, or perhaps in that transitory state between Inner/Outer status? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:26, 31 January 2012 (EST) | ||
::::I agree that some sort of explanation based on the fundamentally different geometry of slipspace (perhaps a local anomaly due to the Relic) might work. I also like the idea about slipspace routes and UNSC Astronav having to consistently keep them up to date. Anything of the sort hasn't been described in the fiction, but [[Interstellar jump point|IJPs]] in the CAA factbook seem like a hint in that direction. Also, slipspace has always been the end-all explanation for strange phenomena in the Halo universe so it wouldn't be a first. | |||
::::To further elaborate on what we know, ''Contact Harvest'' established that Harvest was a six-week slip away from Madrigal and two months from Reach. Madrigal was also stated to be the closest colony to Harvest. This seems to imply Harvest was supposed to be significantly further away from Earth than Reach or Madrigal. ''The Cole Protocol'' further complicates this by establishing that Madrigal is located in 23 Librae, some 83 LY from Earth. This would need some serious space-bending to make it work, but with slipspace, anything's possible. | |||
::::It's a shame to have unexplained discrepancies like this, since Nylund has been pretty consistent with star placements in his later fiction, placing most of his Outer Colony systems roughly in the 30-50 LY range. Using entirely made-up system names obviously eliminates the need to do research (i.e. a couple of minutes looking up the [http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/ Atlas of the Universe]), but it's also less fun. | |||
::::Specops: According to the timeline on the original Halo website, the Inner Colonies were defined as the ones established between 2360 and 2390, while supposedly all worlds colonized after that would be referred to as Outer Colonies. If this still holds true, then I don't think there would be any doubt that Harvest (having been settled in 2468) was an Outer Colony. However, the divide doesn't mean ''all'' Outer Colonies were poor and full of disparate elements. No doubt there were some Outer Colonies that remained largely free of conflict. Harvest had it share of rebellion but otherwise, it seems to have been largely stable and wealthy. | |||
::::Come to think of it, the timeline-based division may also signify a major change in regulations. There were strict criteria the original Inner Colony settlers had to meet, so it could be that the laws regarding colonization were significantly loosened in 2390, allowing entities smaller than the UEG to begin colonization projects of their own and draft colonists with more diverse backgrounds. Over time, interstellar transports and colonization equipment would've also become more affordable, further accelerating the pace of colonization. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:36, 31 January 2012 (EST) | |||