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:::::::::I think I'll pass on that idea... sounds a tad too risky. [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 01:08, April 28, 2010 (UTC) | :::::::::I think I'll pass on that idea... sounds a tad too risky. [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 01:08, April 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::::They said they deploy it from high altitude and the lumbering behemoth somehow survives the drop and gets right back to 'devastating' the UNSC. then PELICANS come in and rip it to shreds because nothing can stop them. That actually brings me to my next two points: why did they send in Master Chief when a flight of PELICANS could have devastated the entire Covenant? And secondly, the two Scarabs on | ::::::::They said they deploy it from high altitude and the lumbering behemoth somehow survives the drop and gets right back to 'devastating' the UNSC. then PELICANS come in and rip it to shreds because nothing can stop them. That actually brings me to my next two points: why did they send in Master Chief when a flight of PELICANS could have devastated the entire Covenant? And secondly, the two Scarabs on {{Levelname|The Covenant}}...they drop out of nowhere. There's no ship for them to come down from if I recall correctly, and when you look up, they don't spawn. You have to look away. Odd. [[File:Lieutenant Grade One.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 01:12, April 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Suppose it's just for gameplay reasons... give you something interesting to fight... although, if you look at the Scarab in H2, hundreds of missiles from Pelicans did absolutely nothing... I reckon the ones in the Game are made weaker or strong depending on what you got to do, H2 Scarab, indestructable except for by completing the level, while the common ones in H3, are completely destructable. Other wise they would be boring enemies to fight constantly aye? [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 01:31, April 28, 2010 (UTC) | Suppose it's just for gameplay reasons... give you something interesting to fight... although, if you look at the Scarab in H2, hundreds of missiles from Pelicans did absolutely nothing... I reckon the ones in the Game are made weaker or strong depending on what you got to do, H2 Scarab, indestructable except for by completing the level, while the common ones in H3, are completely destructable. Other wise they would be boring enemies to fight constantly aye? [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 01:31, April 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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This seemed like a good place to put this...as soon as I watched the "A Spartan Shall Rise" ViDoc, I noticed that the Scarab in that ViDoc is huge. The crashing Pelican is about the size of its AA Cannon...No amount of perspective could cause this. Although it could be a "Super Scarab," so to speak, I find this doubtful. -- [[User talk:Joseph-G111|Joseph-G111]] | This seemed like a good place to put this...as soon as I watched the "[[A Spartan Shall Rise]]" ViDoc, I noticed that the Scarab in that ViDoc is huge. The crashing Pelican is about the size of its AA Cannon...No amount of perspective could cause this. Although it could be a "Super Scarab," so to speak, I find this doubtful. -[[Joseph-G111|~]][[User talk:Joseph-G111|Joseph-G111]] | ||
Nevermind, after playing Reach I realize it was just the angle...-[[User talk:Joseph-G111|Joseph-G111]] 23:07, October 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Designation? == | == Designation? == | ||
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:Also, in defense of Halopedia, yes, we do have a strict canon policy but we do not determine what is canon and what is not without a discussion/forum/consensus. That being said, we exchange speculations, ideas and knowledge in unravelling and determining the elements of the Halo Universe. Also keep in mind that Halopedia can be freely be accessed by everyone; false information can be inserted without notice if no one keeps an eye on that article.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:44, October 17, 2009 (UTC) | :Also, in defense of Halopedia, yes, we do have a strict canon policy but we do not determine what is canon and what is not without a discussion/forum/consensus. That being said, we exchange speculations, ideas and knowledge in unravelling and determining the elements of the Halo Universe. Also keep in mind that Halopedia can be freely be accessed by everyone; false information can be inserted without notice if no one keeps an eye on that article.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:44, October 17, 2009 (UTC) | ||
"because frankly, it looks not a bloody thing like a Scarab." Are you serious? Have you seen the differences between the Halo 2 Scarab and the Halo 3 Scarab? It is now considered canon that they are two seperate models, which just proves my point that you shouldn't consider something not canon just because it doesn't look exactly the same as the Scarab we know. You don't have to put that it is canon, but do you really have to put that it isn't to be considered canon because it looks different to a Halo 2 or 3 Scarab? Just don't mention its canonicity on the page at all because it's not needed.-- [[User talk:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 13:24, October 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I would like to point out that the Scarab in HGN has been resolved through the following quote: ''"The story is canonical, but the visuals of the story clearly are not"''. As such, I don't think there is any problem with the article, other than a cleanup of information and lack of citations. Oh, and it took you a year to respond? Aghast! - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:31, October 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Halo 3 Scarab and Halo 2 Scarab are diffrent models confrimed. == | == Halo 3 Scarab and Halo 2 Scarab are diffrent models confrimed. == | ||
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::Did it ever occur to you that they are just wires? Power circcuits to the rest of the scarab? [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 22:56, April 27, 2010 (UTC) | ::Did it ever occur to you that they are just wires? Power circcuits to the rest of the scarab? [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:red">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 22:56, April 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::You guys realize that there has been much discussion about the presence (or lack thereof) on Lekgolo on Scarabs? Last I checked, it was suspected that Lekgolo were the power source of the Scarab, and that an interface with them was constructed so the other Covenant could operate the Scarab. I believe this is still true, as I remember something about this being mentioned when [[Assembly ( | :::You guys realize that there has been much discussion about the presence (or lack thereof) on Lekgolo on Scarabs? Last I checked, it was suspected that Lekgolo were the power source of the Scarab, and that an interface with them was constructed so the other Covenant could operate the Scarab. I believe this is still true, as I remember something about this being mentioned when [[Assembly (level)|an awesome map of close-quarter uber-pwnage]] was released. [[File:Lieutenant Grade One.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 23:04, April 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Yes i did consider that they may just be wires but there are some istinct flaws with this iea, the fact is that they are exposed, there is no reason for this no other covenant technology features exposed wires, they are around the power core (like the lekgolo on the h3 scarab) an hte next problem is with color, they are a distinctly different color, there is no reason for this. Nobody hwen designing a giant walking tank just says during the esign process "you know what how about some giant exposed tan-orange wires on the belly of this thing" if you havent noticed things tend to be desinged the way they are for a reason [[User talk:Ralok|ralok]] 03:10, April 28, 2010 (UTC) | Yes i did consider that they may just be wires but there are some istinct flaws with this iea, the fact is that they are exposed, there is no reason for this no other covenant technology features exposed wires, they are around the power core (like the lekgolo on the h3 scarab) an hte next problem is with color, they are a distinctly different color, there is no reason for this. Nobody hwen designing a giant walking tank just says during the esign process "you know what how about some giant exposed tan-orange wires on the belly of this thing" if you havent noticed things tend to be desinged the way they are for a reason [[User talk:Ralok|ralok]] 03:10, April 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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You might be right but I can't be sure (I'll repay it some time and check) also over all they seem to act more "alive" and in the game manual they are described as super heavy infatry rather than vehicles.'''[[User talk:Dragrath1|Dragrath1]] 22:30, September 30, 2010 (UTC)''' | You might be right but I can't be sure (I'll repay it some time and check) also over all they seem to act more "alive" and in the game manual they are described as super heavy infatry rather than vehicles.'''[[User talk:Dragrath1|Dragrath1]] 22:30, September 30, 2010 (UTC)''' | ||
I heard it scream. It's probably because, for example, Hunters growl-seeing as they are both beings made up of colonies of Lekgolo worms, I'm guessing they both have the ABILITY to make primitive animalistic noises. -[[User talk:Joseph-G111|Joseph-G111]] 23:13, October 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== I'm asking for a valid change here guys and gals. == | |||
It is clear, a big destinction, the Scarab seen in Halo 3 is '''very '''different from the one we see in Halo 2. | |||
'''<u>The Scarab from Halo 2 should be called the Type-47 Ultra Heavy Assault Platform. </u>''' | |||
'''<u>It should also be the main picture for the article!</u>''' | |||
Now, the walker we see in Halo 3 should be called the '''Type-47 Ultra Heavy Assault Platform-(A)''' | |||
''I don not know if this is supported in cannon, nor if it is accepted by Bungie or the Microsoft Corp.'' | |||
<u>Reasoning.</u> This will clear up alot of confusion, I believe. It will distinguish the beast that was deployed at New Mombasa, form the walker deployed at The Battle of The Ark, Battle of Earth, and the Fall of Reach. | |||
The Type-47, being how powerful, can not be called the smae thing as the proposed Type-47-(A). For many reasons, power, size, speed, crew, and interior/exterior design. | |||
'''I'm begging, pleading for this, I respect the Scarab, It deserves to be in a class of its own, I mean common', its called the "Ultra Heavy Assault Platform"! ''' | |||
[http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070727024654/halo/images/thumb/1/1c/Scarab01.jpg/300px-Scarab01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ares.117/Scarab&usg=__tBeY7GGqOguc4mctaCVwCaSWlD8=&h=293&w=300&sz=25&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=3D1PjWL4AMbwjM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=163&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhalo%2B2%2Bcontrol%2Broom%2Bscarab%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dcom.yahoo:en-US:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D534%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=506&vpy=76&dur=2002&hovh=222&hovw=227&tx=141&ty=110&ei=XzsFTebpG8b_lgfS45HVCQ&oei=XzsFTebpG8b_lgfS45HVCQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0 Type-47 UHAP] | |||
[http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.supercheats.com/xbox360/guides/halo3/images/level6-scarab.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.supercheats.com/xbox360/guides/halo3/mission6-theark.shtml&usg=__NFLT_7hwQ5bfyP9Rz-psBmGgK24=&h=768&w=1024&sz=147&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=P1g1BynUxrLkOM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=186&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhalo%2B3%2Bscarab%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.yahoo:en-US:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D534%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C150&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=980&vpy=58&dur=1765&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=204&ty=92&ei=-jsFTbfWNcT7lwf5men9Bw&oei=1DsFTayrGoP7lweV2IycDg&esq=4&page=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0&biw=1280&bih=534 Type-47 UHAP-(A)] - Would you do ''that'' in Halo 2? | |||
== Halo Wars Scarab == | |||
Does the AA gun on top of the Scarab function at all in Halo Wars? Does anyone know? [[User talk:Jedijam91|Jedijam91]] 02:47, February 26, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Yes it does, against flying ships such as Hornets or Vultures. [[User talk:Rprince418|Rprince418]] 13:34, March 3, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Primary Weapon Rate of Fire == | |||
WHAT? Thirty to forty what per second, times per second? but that is impossible I am going to change it to 10 times a minute. Please correct it if I am wrong.[[User talk:Coolmon54|Coolmon54- Hell yeah]] 20:52, March 16, 2011 (UTC) | |||
: Scratch that make it 5 times a minute thats like a 12 second fire and cooldown sequence. Sounds good. and again change it if I am wrong.[[User talk:Coolmon54|Coolmon54- Hell yeah]] 20:56, March 16, 2011 (UTC) | |||