Talk:Jiralhanae Captain Major

Gold?

Isnt this a brute captain major?(red colored ones)

File:Brute captain.jpg

Red brute captain

. That would make the gold ones ultra brute captains which makes more sense because with the thunderstorm skull activated all brutes become gold colored.

--EliteSpartanFile:Halo3.comchief.PNG ^{My Talk} _{My Contribs}File:Sergeant.jpgFile:GDI.jpg October 11 2007

N...no... I suppose those are the... Minor ones... Are you SURE your thunderstorm skull is activated? And are you SURE Campaign Scoring is on??? --Blemo ^TALK • _{CONTRIBUTIONS} • ^{THE SOURCE OF SPAM} 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

No... this is a minor:

File:Brute.JPG

Brute minor(blue and with a smaller helmet)

--EliteSpartanFile:Halo3.comchief.PNG ^{My Talk} _{My Contribs}File:Sergeant.jpgFile:GDI.jpg October 11, 2007

EliteSpartan youre wrong, see any campaign game on Bungie.net and see that Majors are gold. Clavix2 File:Halo2emblemClavix.jpg ^{I WILL PAY FOR ALL MY SINS} 23:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

hmmm..... oh ok i see it now. sorry for the misunderstanding but if thats the case what rank are the red colored brutes? --EliteSpartanFile:Halo3.comchief.PNG ^{My Talk} _{My Contribs}File:Sergeant.jpgFile:GDI.jpg October 11, 2007

I think that they re just normal or minor Captain. Clavix2 File:Halo2emblemClavix.jpg ^{I WILL PAY FOR ALL MY SINS} 23:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

That picture of the "minor" is from pre-game release and isn't even a captain. I think that the blue ones are the minors, the red ones are the majors, and gold ones are captains. Because like Elite Spartan said, when you turn on Thunderstorm they all become Gold. But I cannot be sure. They could have easily got the color of the pictures off, the web designers that is.

Someone play through Sierra 117 on legendary with thunderstorm on and see if it registers as Majors when you kill the gold ones for more evidence?

Also, I have seen it, even though it is not shown, there are blue captains that arent on the Bungie campaign scoring, and the Gold ones take 4 brute shots while the blues take 3.

Just some thoughts, observances, and suggestions. --Justin Time 07:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

No thats correct just see one Campaign game on Bungie.net for example a random game: http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=19436217
Did you see Gold=Major Blue=Ultra Red=Minor-Normal.
Clavix2 File:Halo2emblemClavix.jpg ^{I WILL PAY FOR ALL MY SINS} 07:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I think they the pictures mixed up, the Golds are definitely stronger then the Blue captains, I played on heroic and a gold took four brute shots and a blue took three. I don't have gold so I can't upload the video, but surely someone could confirm this? --Justin Time 01:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Either the pictures on Bungie.net are wrong or this is like the Elite Ultra/Zealot situation. While the Zealot outranks the ultra, the ultra can take more damage. --EliteSpartanFile:Halo3.comchief.PNG ^{My Talk} _{My Contribs}File:Sergeant.jpgFile:GDI.jpg October 14 2007

That would not explain why the Golds come up on Thunderstorm. I have messaged Achronos on Bungie.net, and he says it very well may be an error, and that I should email it for investigation to bnetbugs@bungie.net. I just sent the email out, so keep a watch on the images incase the change, and I will keep you updated if they email me back. --Justin Time 03:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you guys ever thought that the brute colors don't matter as much like the elites. maybe bungie decide to make them random strengths and colors.HydramanFile:BR Firing.gif 19:45' 16 October 2007 (UTC)

No source sites the Majors as blue, please do not spread misinformation/fanon. --Justin Time 04:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The picture looks green, not gold, to me. --Geoffron 22:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Check your eyes, its quite gold... not Green. --Ajax 013 22:08, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Images

I've checked the images on the current page, and I have compared it to my research done with the thunderstorm skull, and the none of the images there are Captain Majors.

-The Violet is actually a standard Brute Captain.

-The silver-blue is a Brute Bodyguard; they look like Captains, but they are not. They only appear in the vicinity of a Chieftain.

-The Teal is Brute Ultra, the highest rank.

I am currently playing Sierra 117 with the thunderstorm skull activated, and all the Captains are gold, therefore Brute Captain Majors. I can see where the confusion about whether the Teal or Gold is which high rank, and I have checked Crow's Nest and Tsavo Highway with the thunderstorm skull. Other than Sierra 117, with the skull active, all the Captains are Teal, therefore are Captain Ultras, the highest rank, again in accordance with the Bungie website stats.

My hypothesis, at least from what I can see, is that perhaps the first level has Captain Majors perhaps due to the fact that it is the first level, with only Captains, 2 Brute Bodyguards, and 1 Chieftain being the only Brute ranks present. Perhaps it is a programming mistake, or they toned things down just a little, even with the skull, since only after this level are the rest of the Brute ranks and types present in their entirety.

The Bungie campaign stats have not changed, so other than that, I don't know what to say.

--Exalted Obliteration 20:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I took the pictures myself, and you are wrong, Bungie and everyone I have known say that the standard Brute Captains are red, not violet, and the violet one was seen with the Thunderstorm skull on replacing the blue one (which is obviously not a bodyguard, as they are silver). As you will find, the violet ones look dark blue in dim to dark lighting. The light blue one appeared no where near a Brute Chieftain, as that photo was taken on AA Wraith island on "The Covenant". As there has been no official placement for these new colors (and as the light blue one may just appear "light" due to the lighting), they should be placed in the article in which their color is closest to until something official comes about. --Justin Time 22:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Images and Ranks

I've noticed the mistakes on this page, and being a stickler for detail, I'll offer some help.

The "Captains" present on this page are way off, and one of them isn't even a Captain.

-The violet-armored Captain is a normal/standard Brute Captain.

-The silver-blue Brute is not a Brute Captain at all; he is actually a Brute Bodyguard, and though his armor is the same shape, he is not a Captain, and the silver-blue guys are only present around a Chieftain.

-The teal-armored Brute Captain is actually a Brute Captain Ultra. This is in accordance with both the Bungie stats, and my own research.

My research with the thunderstorm skull have shown me that on Crow's Nest, which without the skull active, even on legendary, is a mix of Brute ranks, and the same goes for Brute Captains. Even on legendary, I have seen, violet, gold, and teal captains, though the violet ones are rarer. I have been able to use this level as a screen for the other levels, save for Brute Stalkers, all ranks are present, from Brute Infantry Minor to the Armor Chieftains.

Sierra 117 is an oddity in comparison; the only Brute ranks present are Brute Captains, Brute Bodyguards, and a Brute Chieftain. Given this limited set of ranks, even on legendary, without the skull, both violet and gold Brute Captains were present, but no Teal ones. With the skull, they are all gold. But switch the skull on for Crow's Nest, and all the Captains are teal armored, with no gold or violet.

Same goes probably for the other levels with Brutes present. My hypothesis is that it is programming mistake, or that since the Brutes have such a limited set of ranks present, the gold captains are present instead, since usually the first levels of a Halo game have only a few ranks present.

Of course, I could be wrong, but it does measure up from my work, and if there are any problems, let me know. thanks.

--Exalted Obliteration 21:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)