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#'''Against''' Ryan: you are a very friendly person, you are enjoyable to talk to, but your conduct carries the mark of inexperience. While there are some things (such as Generalship in UoH) where that might be fine for, it is much different in the Administrator's chair. I think you are intelligent enough that you could, one day, be an administrator, but I believe you need to learn more about conduct before you do so. Aside from the one incident that I've made clear to you, I know of at least two other major incidents where your conduct has been called into question. Yes, you learned from each of them and I think you honestly improved from them, but I don't believe you have learnt enough to be an Administrator at this time --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 02:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | #'''Against''' Ryan: you are a very friendly person, you are enjoyable to talk to, but your conduct carries the mark of inexperience. While there are some things (such as Generalship in UoH) where that might be fine for, it is much different in the Administrator's chair. I think you are intelligent enough that you could, one day, be an administrator, but I believe you need to learn more about conduct before you do so. Aside from the one incident that I've made clear to you, I know of at least two other major incidents where your conduct has been called into question. Yes, you learned from each of them and I think you honestly improved from them, but I don't believe you have learnt enough to be an Administrator at this time --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 02:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
##No offense, but do you know what it's like to be in the "Administrator's chair"? I do, and let me describe it to you: it's no big deal. You act like it's becoming King of Halopedia, but being admin is nothing huge. The only extra things you can do are delete pages, block users, and edit MediaWiki pages. That's it. Not only that, but Ryanngreenday has been here for almost exactly 1 year, and has been here for longer than both RR and GPT, so I think that he ''has'' learned enough to be Administrator here, probably more than enough. [[User:Phil.e.|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New; font-size:10pt; color:white;">''' ''Phil.e.'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Phil.e.|<span style="color:black;">[Talk to me]</span>]]</sup> 20:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | ##No offense, but do you know what it's like to be in the "Administrator's chair"? I do, and let me describe it to you: it's no big deal. You act like it's becoming King of Halopedia, but being admin is nothing huge. The only extra things you can do are delete pages, block users, and edit MediaWiki pages. That's it. Not only that, but Ryanngreenday has been here for almost exactly 1 year, and has been here for longer than both RR and GPT, so I think that he ''has'' learned enough to be Administrator here, probably more than enough. [[User:Phil.e.|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New; font-size:10pt; color:white;">''' ''Phil.e.'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Phil.e.|<span style="color:black;">[Talk to me]</span>]]</sup> 20:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
::*A community where an Administrator's only extra powers, responsibilities and authority are deleting, blocking and back-room editing? Doesn't exist, and it sure as heck doesn't exist in Halopedia. Administrators are community leaders. They are supposed to set the guidelines for how the community behaves, and lead with those guidelines. They are supposed to be the leaders when it comes to showing how to treat new members, ushering in new projects, and considering ideas presented by the userbase. Yes, Ryan is capable of doing several of those things on the list - as are you and many other major members. However, Ryan has serious deficiencies in many of those areas. | |||
:::Try again, Phil.E. --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 20:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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