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::Adding more: Another spartan you forgot to mention, "[[Maria-062]]" survived the augmentation and graduated as one of the 33 but left the Navy some time before Reach. Sheila was also one of the 33 who was killed in 2544. So, removing the deceased, the three main Spartan Halo Wars characters, the fourth HW spartan... then that's 23 at Epsilon eridani, not 28. take away Red Team from HW then that's 20. I don't know whether or not Keiichi survived, but I'll include him at Reach anyway. So...that means that '''Seventeen''' Class Is were on Reach with three in space. Logically, a Class II '''must''' have existed, as even if the three Red Team members made it back in time, there's still space. -- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 22:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::Adding more: Another spartan you forgot to mention, "[[Maria-062]]" survived the augmentation and graduated as one of the 33 but left the Navy some time before Reach. Sheila was also one of the 33 who was killed in 2544. So, removing the deceased, the three main Spartan Halo Wars characters, the fourth HW spartan... then that's 23 at Epsilon eridani, not 28. take away Red Team from HW then that's 20. I don't know whether or not Keiichi survived, but I'll include him at Reach anyway. So...that means that '''Seventeen''' Class Is were on Reach with three in space. Logically, a Class II '''must''' have existed, as even if the three Red Team members made it back in time, there's still space. -- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 22:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


I've never considered Maria part of the canon, her story makes absolutely no sense. And as time has gone on that idea was probably discarded, the same as one day (hopefully) Halo Wars will be discarded. There are a lot of talented people who come up with an idea they think will work, only later in other revisions is it realized that that idea no longer fits with the overall picture.
It all comes down to what Eric Trautmann once wrote,
''We leave lots of hooks for future development buried in the text, to accomodate several ideas/stories we have percolating. Some may see the light of day, some may not. In general, its best to chalk such discrepancies up to "the fog of war" and if we get the chance, we've got a great explanation for the apparent discontinuity."''
Everything you've written still has one major flaw, nothing is there in the context of official canon to suggest there was a final unit produced from Class II. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 23:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


No, you're twisting my words. Randal although missing since 2532, considered to be the only Spartan truly missing by Halsey, would logically have to be part of the three Spartans KIA between 2542-2552. That list would include Sheila who died battle of Miridem in 2544. Another unnamed Spartan, and Randal.  [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 22:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
No, you're twisting my words. Randal although missing since 2532, considered to be the only Spartan truly missing by Halsey, would logically have to be part of the three Spartans KIA between 2542-2552. That list would include Sheila who died battle of Miridem in 2544. Another unnamed Spartan, and Randal.  [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 22:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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