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::::She was referring to the velocity the Autumn was travelling at ''in'' slipspace, where the basic laws of physics are skewed.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 12:09, 26 November 2011 (EST) | ::::She was referring to the velocity the Autumn was travelling at ''in'' slipspace, where the basic laws of physics are skewed.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 12:09, 26 November 2011 (EST) | ||
:::Exactly. But it's noted on the article that Slipspace itself does not provide any thrust or propulsion to the ships inside, therefore the ''Autumn'' must have created that thrust itself, meaning it could travel at near light-speed velocity. | :::Exactly. But it's noted on the article that Slipspace itself does not provide any thrust or propulsion to the ships inside, therefore the ''Autumn'' must have created that thrust itself, meaning it could travel at near light-speed velocity. This shows that the Prowler likely isn't faster, so it wouldn't arrive at Installation 04 any faster than a 3 week journey as well. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 13:11, 26 November 2011 (EST) | ||
:I will have to agree that the skirmish happening ''after'' High Charity and its fleet left is the most logical conclusion, regardless of what the Waypoint introduction says. Even ''The Mona Lisa'' itself seems to support this; there is a reference in the story that the Covenant had been present in the system in large numbers before leaving in pursuit of a "high value target" just before the ''Red Horse'' arrived. Since it's apparent the Fleet of Particular Justice never pursued the stolen ''Ascendant Justice'', the most logical conclusion is that this refers to High Charity and its defense fleet. As said above, the ''Mona Lisa'' and the ''Red Horse'' arriving before October 20 isn't ''impossible'', but there is evidence to suggest the Covenant maintained a heavy presence in the system, while in ''The Mona Lisa'', there's just a single ship left. I guess we'll just have to ignore the Waypoint logline and assume it happens after October 20, while mentioning the discrepancy in a note. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:14, 26 November 2011 (EST) | :I will have to agree that the skirmish happening ''after'' High Charity and its fleet left is the most logical conclusion, regardless of what the Waypoint introduction says. Even ''The Mona Lisa'' itself seems to support this; there is a reference in the story that the Covenant had been present in the system in large numbers before leaving in pursuit of a "high value target" just before the ''Red Horse'' arrived. Since it's apparent the Fleet of Particular Justice never pursued the stolen ''Ascendant Justice'', the most logical conclusion is that this refers to High Charity and its defense fleet. As said above, the ''Mona Lisa'' and the ''Red Horse'' arriving before October 20 isn't ''impossible'', but there is evidence to suggest the Covenant maintained a heavy presence in the system, while in ''The Mona Lisa'', there's just a single ship left. I guess we'll just have to ignore the Waypoint logline and assume it happens after October 20, while mentioning the discrepancy in a note. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:14, 26 November 2011 (EST) | ||
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:::As for High Charity's absence in ''The Mona Lisa'', it might have been an oversight, but I'm not sure whether the authors themselves intended to have ''The Mona Lisa'' take place between ''Halo CE'' and ''Halo 2'' (it's never mentioned in the story itself); it may have just been someone from the Waypoint crew who didn't consider it thoroughly enough. The ''Red Horse'' crew are aware that there used to be a larger Covenant fleet in the system, which seems to suggest the authors indeed intended the story to take place after High Charity left. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:08, 26 November 2011 (EST) | :::As for High Charity's absence in ''The Mona Lisa'', it might have been an oversight, but I'm not sure whether the authors themselves intended to have ''The Mona Lisa'' take place between ''Halo CE'' and ''Halo 2'' (it's never mentioned in the story itself); it may have just been someone from the Waypoint crew who didn't consider it thoroughly enough. The ''Red Horse'' crew are aware that there used to be a larger Covenant fleet in the system, which seems to suggest the authors indeed intended the story to take place after High Charity left. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:08, 26 November 2011 (EST) | ||
== "Pyrrhic" victory == | |||
I object to this being classified as a pyrrhic victory for the UNSC. This description supposes the alternative outcome of allowing the Flood to spread throughout the galaxy would be more strategically sound. | |||