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*'''Remove "Military Calendar"''' — A significant portion of the dates on this timeline fall before the formation of the United Nations Space Command and do not adhere to the concept of the Gregorian [[Military Calendar|military calendar]]. Considering that everything in the universe is already pretty much written to Earth standards (12 month years, 24 hour days), including Forerunner and Covenant subjects, and that a number of newer products for don't include military calendar in time and setting entries, this is an antiquated inclusion.

:Agreed. I think we should just have a separate timeline for the real-world years. Always good to keep fiction and out-of-universe content separate. Here is [[w:c:starwars:Template:Years-RealWorld|Wookieepedia's template]] for reference, but we don't have nearly enough real-world years as they do. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''^{[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]}^{[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]}'' 11:20, 4 September 2015 (EDT)

::With regard to Wookieepedia's format, they also don't have the unfortunate problem of their fictional years overlapping with real ones, which would mean we'd end up with pages with titles like "2004 (real-world)" if we want to include the canonical ''ILB'' and ''Iris'' material in their own fiction-centric year articles. [[2021]] will also face this issue in a few years. That said, I do support separating the timelines somehow, even if it means adding the "(real-world)" disambiguation to the titles that need it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 03:39, 5 September 2015 (EDT)

:::How about an easier solution such as tagging each entry (i.e. the sentence at the end) with a visible notice informing readers that the entry is a real-world content and not part of the fictional Halo universe? In other words, we add an [[:Category:Appearance templates|Appearance template]] but make it stand out like so: <span style="border:1px solid #000; background:#ABCDEF; padding:0 4px;">Real-world</span>. It's easier to execute and to maintain. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  11:46, 5 September 2015 (EDT)

So I am working on a redesign of this template as a draft [[User:Spartacus/Sandbox|here]], which I believe solves the problem of real-world and in-universe being listed together. I condensed the years into sections based on [[Halopedia:Timeline|this page]], while adding a ''Real World'' section. This also solves the problem of having to scroll endlessly to find a certain year. Any thoughts on this?--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:04, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

:Like if you were on the year [[2552]], you could click the back button to go back to [[2551]] or forward to go to [[2553]].

:It could be done like the infoboxes in the event pages([[Battle of Installation 04|Example]]) with a previous section that would link the previous year. And a next section that would link the following year that had an event in it.

:That would be pretty neat, I think something like Wikipedia's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Year_nav Year nav] template could work. In any case, I think the Timeline template should be kept, for obvious reasons. -- [[User:Topal the Pilot|'''Topal the Pilot''']] [[File:Blueteam.png|20px]] <small>([[User talk:Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Talk'''</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Contribs'''</span>]])</small> 04:40, 3 May 2016 (EDT)

:It's the latter, as per [[Halopedia_talk:Community#Timeline_wip_reset|this request]]. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  10:51, 3 August 2016 (EDT)

:::You can see a couple of working examples here: [[2610]], [[500,000,000 BCE]] and 100,000,000,000 BCE. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  11:09, 3 August 2016 (EDT)

:::I've been trying out some designs and the best compromise is the implementation of the "next/previous" feature. Other wikis such as Wookieepdia (which had little to no articles on years) and Wikipedia (which struggled with the rapid development of real-world events) are unable to provide guidance on constructing a good timeline template. What we can do with the concept of "common years" is to create articles on those "common years" (i.e. an article on 2550s, like Wikipedia's [[wikipedia:1990s|1990s]]) while avoiding using fan-made/pseudo-official era titles. If these proposals can be agreed, I'll proceed with reverting the template to its previous design.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:21, 18 September 2016 (EDT)

::I was hoping we could make the Timeline infobox on each page it appears on a simple box that just contains links to the previous and next years instead of also having a giant section that splits up history into arbitray categories, etc. Look at the page for [[2553]], for example. I'd like to put in an image for January but can't due to the unwieldy infobox.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 12:57, 1 September 2017 (EDT)

:::Firstly, those aren't arbitrary categories; they are based off [[Halo Mythos]] (see [[Project: Timeline]]). Secondly, there is no need for an infobox because most of the articles about the years are too short and are already concise/summarised enough. It seems like your issue is essentially the obstruction of the template with the placement of your image. I guess what we can do for now is to change the design while maintaining the categories. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:13, 1 September 2017 (EDT)