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==Halo Xbox One==
== Pro-John117 bias ==
All the official sources, like Halo Waypoint, refer to this game as Halo Xbox One instead of Halo 5. Has anyone confirmed that it's called Halo 5? <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 18:32, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
This article has a clear pro John-117 bias and needs to be cleaned up.{{Unsigned|98.65.201.42}}
:If you could please explain a little more, that would be great, because I fail to see how the article is "biased" in any way. After all, John-117 is sort of the main character of the game and entire series. His backstory between ''Halo 4'' and now is pretty central to the game too.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 16:24, 18 September 2015 (EDT)
::John-117 is one of two main characters, as was the case with Halo 2, and in Reach there are arguably 6 main characters. There can be more than one main character but the article says he is the solitary protagonist alluding to Locke being somehow lesser or inferior in role when 343 have multiple times stated the opposite (they are even depicted as equals face to face on the '''cover art of the game'''){{Unsigned|98.65.201.42}}
:::No, it doesn't. The article states John-117 is the primary protagonist of the ''series'', not of the game. The next paragraph which is '''solely''' about Locke opens with the following: "Halo 5: Guardians also features another playable protagonist...". Sign your comments.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:46, 23 September 2015 (EDT)


:I can't reasonably seeing them calling the game anything else, but you're right. At no point has 343 ever used the title "Halo 5". Until they do, we should refrain from referring to it as such.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 19:17, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
== Vehicle position switching ==
::I agree. While Occam's Razor basically ''screams'' that the game is ''Halo 5'', we need to wait for confirmation. Until then, ''Halo Xbox One'' will have to suffice. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 19:29, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:::https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/344182593647964160 Link refers to it as Halo 5<font color="green">[[User:Rollersox|Death will follow you]]...</font><font color="blue" size="2"><sup>[[User talk:Rollersox|but you can survive]]</sup></font> 19:36, 10 June 2013 (EDT)


::::A hashtag isn't an official title announcement. Besides, that thread wasn't even started by Xbox. That hashtag has existed for months as people speculate. I'll give the other users some time to comment before moving the page.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 19:48, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
It appears from this [https://youtu.be/F6Xz2Ggn5tU?t=517 video] that it is possible to switch positions in a vehicle. Should we add this to the article?  Thanks, --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 19:30, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
:I added that fact a while ago.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:45, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
::Haha, my bad. Thanks! --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:58, 7 October 2015 (EDT)


:::::Even if I strongly think that this game is Halo 5, there is still no official information as it being called Halo 5 or being the second installment in the Reclaimer Trilogy, etc. But instead of immediately moving the page, maybe we should just wait for the next Bulletin or a press release from Halo Waypoint (something more than just the trailer). I'm pretty sure that 343 will confirm or deny it. Well, either that, or they don't know how to properly name a game / announce it. If this week's Bulletin doesn't clearly state that the game is Halo 5, then change it to Halo Xbox One or whatever. Or we may as well do it today, but it will possibly be changed again. '''Edit:''' Well it seems that even the Waypoint forum is called "Halo Xbox One"... This really doesn't make any sense to me. If it were Halo 5, why wouldn't they call it such? And if it were a spin-off set between H4 and H5, then why wouldn't they use a subtitle...[[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 20:01, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
==Spoilers==
I assume now that a bunch of a-holes are spoiling the game all over the internet we all are going to be extra vigilant to stop them here? I know I will be. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 20:55, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
:The Administration team will be extra-vigilant for spoilers and will deal with them in accordance with the [[Halopedia:Spoiler policy|policy]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 21:53, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
::It also may not hurt to lock pages of important characters and objects relating to the game until it is released. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:06, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
:::I agree. We did the same thing with ''Halo 4'' if I remember right.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 22:16, 12 October 2015 (EDT)


::::::Just my two cents - [http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/detail/111609fe-d53c-4400-b4d6-44ae3629dda3/halo-xbox-one here] it says "The award-winning franchise continues on Xbox One, beginning in 2014. '''Final title''' to be announced at a later date." That may mean the title "Halo Xbox One" (and perhaps Halo 5) are just temporary/working titles, and aren't permanent. So just a heads up before moving the page to "Halo Xbox One", which IMO wouldn't make sense as a video game title especially for the Halo series.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:43, 10 June 2013 (EDT)


:::::::Well, since we know "Halo: Xbox One" is '''not''' going to be the actual title, I think "Halo 5" is our best option, unless we ''really'' want to change it to "Unnamed Halo game (2014)". [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
==Team Majestic==
Have Team Majestic along with all of it's members been actually proved to appear in Halo 5? Besides the fact that Thorne was originally supposed to take Buck's place, all proofs I know, is a shot from "A Hero Reborn", in which someone noticed "Madsen" in a script, which we don't know even to be final and featured in game. It could also be just a mention. Is that enough to make an assumption? [[User:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] ([[User talk:PatrickRus|talk]]) 07:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
:I agree the brief shot of the script probably not enough proof of their presence. It's better to be safe than sorry, so I'm removing it for now. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:04, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
::Cleaned up Majestic's page, as well as it's members.[[User:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] ([[User talk:PatrickRus|talk]]) 10:11, 22 October 2015 (EDT)


Nobody's saying "Halo Xbox One" is going to be the final title. Odds are we'll move the page then move it right back when it's officially announced as Halo 5. But we don't get to call it Halo 5 until either 343 Industries or Microsoft call it that. That being said, what do we think sounds more appropriate for a title: "Halo Xbox One" or "Halo (Xbox One)"?--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 21:53, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
==Additional Characters==
:Halo 5, definitely. Halo (Xbox One) leaves too much open for confusion[[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] ([[User talk:Ocean Soul|talk]]) 22:24, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
Aside from the mention of "Sloan" (his name is [[Governor Sloan]]), there's a few other AIs who joined the [[Created]] that should be listed. Those who joined in the scene where we had hundreds join are [[Cromwell]], Shipboard AI on the [[UNSC Melbourne's Pride]], [[Jiang]], the [[Colonial Administration Authority|Colonial Authority]] AI on [[Erdenet]], Rykers, and others. Should these be listed? I'm not sure how so, and of course the article is protected, so I can't do anything about it.[[User:Gregzilla|Gregzilla]] ([[User talk:Gregzilla|talk]]) 20:54, 27 October 2015 (EDT)


Whatever name we make up for this article will be just that, a made up name. Whether it's "Halo (Xbox One)" or Halo 5 we're still just making it up. I personally feel that Halo 5 is much more descriptive, as it implies a mainline game, as opposed to a spin-off like Spartan Assault. If you're going to say we can't call it Halo 5 until 343 calls it that, we can't really call it anything else either. Whatever we call it will be our own invention. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:47, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
Honestly, I would think all but a few AIs joined Domana and the Created, such as Roland and Black-Box. It would be to much of a trouble to list all of them and unless someone gets a hold of the script for Halo 5, I would only go for the AIs that get subtitled. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 21:09, 27 October 2015 (EDT)


:The title in the trailer just says ''Halo'', so perhaps ''Halo'' (2014)? <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 08:21, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
The ones that got subtitled, in that case, are [[Cromwell]] and [[Jiang]]. Can those be added?[[User:Gregzilla|Gregzilla]] ([[User talk:Gregzilla|talk]]) 19:14, 30 October 2015 (EDT)


Look, we can't just ignore our own policy when it suits us. The game has not yet been called Halo 5 by any official source so until it is, we should not label the page as Halo 5. Rather, we should use an official name. The way I see it, we either go by the trailer and do as Bioniclepluslotr said, calling it Halo (2014), or we go by 343 and MS and call it Halo Xbox One. Personally I'd go with the trailer as the term "Halo Xbox One" is likely to differentiate this title from Halo Combat Evolved.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 09:44, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
==Are we meant to recognize the [spoiler]==
{{Hide|title=Legendary ending spoiler|Are we supposed to recognize the tune that Cortana is humming during the Legendary ending with the Halo? And for that matter, I'm just assuming it's Cortana, but I'm not certain. Anyway, someone told me that it's similar to some tune Guilty Spark has hummed before, but it doesn't sound familiar to me.}}[[User:Olanmills|olanmills]] ([[User talk:Olanmills|talk]]) 04:47, 21 December 2015 (EST)


I agree. If they aren't calling it ''Halo 5'', then we shouldn't be either. The page should be appropriately renamed to ''Halo Xbox One'' as that's the name they are currently using. Could always be a working title, but right now it's the best we have.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:15, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Préludes No. 4: Les sons et les parfums tournent dans l'air du soir|This is the piece you are looking for.]] -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:10, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:Makes sense as per policy. Is someone going to rename the article? <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 13:18, 11 June 2013 (EDT)


:All right, you guys have convinced me. It looks like we have a consensus here. Do we need a vote? If not, let's go ahead and change the page to Halo (Xbox One).--[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 09:53, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
Given the fact that the very small part Cortana hums can indeed be recognized as that same Debussy's song, can be also named in the "Plot Synopsis" section, replacing "Piano music"? There is another mention of the same Prélude in Ghosts of Onyx, also by Dr. Halsey, so I think it has background in-Universe. [[User:Jz60023|Jz60023]] ([[User talk:Jz60023|talk]]) 22:30, 2 April 2016 (EDT)jz60023


Several 343i employees were tweeting "Halo 5" and "sequel." This is obviously Halo 5 with just "Halo Xbox One" as a working title but it is in fact apart of the Reclaimer Trilogy and a sequel to Halo 4. --[[User:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] ([[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|talk]]) 19:43, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
== When should we add a section for critical reception? ==


:Then the sources should be indicated in the article. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 20:30, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
EVERY SINGLE reviewer said that the story was bad. They praised a lot of things but the story was deemed as bad by almost all reviewers: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/10/26/theres-a-huge-problem-with-these-halo-5-reviews-and-only-one-way-to-solve-it/#16c4a8483bf4


::Post links to the tweets.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 21:02, 12 June 2013 (EDT)


It's weird, but I agree that we should follow what the developers seem to indicate is the best possible designation and avoid wiki speculation. It's possible that Microsoft marketing wants to promote the Xbox One so much that they want to abandon mention of previous Halo games. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#800080">Dragon<font color="#DE397E">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#6600D8">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:34, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
We should add a receptions section.
:Go ahead and add it, though our reception section for ''Halo 3'' doesn't even mention campaign and that bad story.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 17:23, 5 February 2016 (EST)


: A few days ago, Killamint posted [http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/detail/111609fe-d53c-4400-b4d6-44ae3629dda3/halo-xbox-one this link] which indicated that "the final title will be announced later", but it looks like it has been removed... [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:50, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
Every single is a incorrect statement a lot but not all. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 20:59, 5 February 2016 (EST)


Per the Latest Halo Bulletin, Halo Xbox One is the working title: [http://blogs.halowaypoint.com/Headlines/post/2013/06/18/The-c-61913.aspx The Halo Bulletin: 6.19.13]
:Actually every single major/official reviewer (IGN, Gamespot, Polygon, etc) in fact said that the story was bad, I have a source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/10/26/theres-a-huge-problem-with-these-halo-5-reviews-and-only-one-way-to-solve-it/#4a66c7c3bf4f
:If you go to each review, you will see that the negative comments of the game all point to the story. That's their words, not mine.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 23:46, 12 May 2016 (EDT)


[[Second Lieutenant|<font color="blue">Second Lieutenant </font>]] [[User:Masterchief46517|<font color="blue">Keith Johnson</font>]] [[Image:7thHelljumpers.jpg|20px]] <sup>[[User talk:Masterchief46517|<font color="blue">com link</font>]]</sup> 04:56, 20 June 2013 (EDT)
::That is four out of hundreds of reviewers, I am not arguing against the campaign being bad, I am arguing the hyberbole [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 01:54, 13 May 2016 (EDT)


==First appearances==
:::I meant major reviewer. There are hundreds of reviews, but only a portion of them are official companies that reviewed the game (Gamespot, IGN, Polygon, Guardian, Gametrailers, Escapist, etc). Anyway, if we add in the section, we can use this a source, it includes even the smaller review companies: http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/halo-5-guardians [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 06:59, 23 May 2016 (EDT)
Why is the Forerunner machine listed as a first appearance? If it's a Seeker or a War sphinx it's not a first appearance. I think we should wait declaring this as such until we have some sort of confirmation.
Similarly with the planet. It may be a first appearance. It may not.''We don't know'' --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 20:08, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:If it's confirmed as a War Sphinx, that tag would be removed, but this ''is'' the first appearance of a giant Promethean bird mech thing. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
::Isn't it regardless the first appearance of such technology in the games?[[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] ([[User talk:Ocean Soul|talk]]) 22:21, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:::Well, it would be in the games, but it was mentioned in the Greg Bear books. Does that count as a first appearance?  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:49, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
::::I agree, as it was done for characters preseted in the books, if this machine is a sphinx then it would not be its first appearance. PS: it's me or it reminds a bit of a reaper of me mixed to chtullu?


I have a better image of the Forerunner machine that shows it clearly has legs. I don't know how to upload it, but I have it here: http://s283.photobucket.com/user/specter_wulf/media/ForerunnerMachine_zps17d29750.jpg.html [[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] ([[User talk:Ocean Soul|talk]]) 15:44, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
== Why was the boxart image changed? ==


Should the "planet" and it's "moon" be listed as a first appearance? If it turns out to be Installation 00 - which the "moon" looks like the planetoid in the center - then it certainly isn't the first appearance. I understand that at such a time that information is known the tags will be amended, but should we assume it's a first appearance with little to nothing to go off?[[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] ([[User talk:Ocean Soul|talk]]) 13:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
As far as I can tell this box image exists only on this website and does not resemble any official box. Seems like fan art. Getting ready to revert it back unless someone says otherwise.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 22:04, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
:I got it from Wal-Mart's website, and was the only box art I found to actually have the rating on the box.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 22:23, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
::Ah, well it seems like this is something Wal-Mart adds themselves and isn't an official box. It's just modified Xbox 360 boxart now that I look at it. The official Xbox website has a version with the rating on it, so I'll put that one up.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:10, 16 March 2016 (EDT)


The Planet in the background is it just me or does he looks like Threshold? So that could mean that John is on BAsis, but thats only my theory so. [[Special:Contributions/93.197.122.96|93.197.122.96]] 17:47, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
==Marketing==
How would you guys feel if we split the marketing section into a new article: "Marketing of ''Halo 5: Guardians''". For reference: [[Wikipedia:Marketing of Halo 3|Wikipedia's marketing of ''Halo 3'']]. I feel like it would benefit the main article, as currently we have like over 20 subsections for different features of ''Halo 5'' marketing media and most of them are only a couple lines long. Instead, we can go into detail about the marketing in the new article, while still summarizing it in the main article. Any thoughts? --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 20:57, 11 June 2016 (EDT)


@ Ocean Soul: Exactly! We don't know if these are first appearances or not. I think we should wait on calling them that, until we have confirmed information, just like we would with anything else, and just like we don't want to call it Halo 5. It's not confirmed that it's new, so don't call it that. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:22, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
:That's probably a better solution, for this and other game articles with massive marketing sections. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:55, 12 June 2016 (EDT)


==Navigation Bar==
==M6G Hologram==
Can someone put this in the navigation bar? Thanks much, --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 09:14, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
Was fixing the appearances section a little and noticed that it said "M6G magnum (Forge Spawn Hologram only)". So you can spawn it in forge but as a hologram? Is this the pistol that the initial spawnpoints have or something? --[[User:Crisperstorm|Crisperstorm]] ([[User talk:Crisperstorm|talk]]) 00:08, 20 August 2016 (EDT)
:The Initial spawn points have the same hologram since Halo Reach. The EXACT SAME. So this means in a really technical level. The M6G and Mark V(B) appear in Halo 5.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2016 (EDT)


:Thanks to whoever put it on the navigation bar! --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:24, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
== List of Maps ==


==Guys this is not Halo 5!==
Quick suggestion, would it be useful to list the "remixes" of multiplayer maps with an indent underneath the map they are a remix of? For example:


See news source http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15372-E3-Halo-Unveil-Wasn-t-Halo-5--Halo-2--Anniversary-Being-Discussed.html
*Truth
**Regret


'''IT IS NOT HALO 5'''. I nominate for this article to be deleted until further notice or an official announcement that Halo 5 is actually coming up.
At present they're listed separately in the alphabetical list. Opinions? --<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC">[[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="red">LOMI</font>]] [[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="red">Speaketh</font>]]</span> 23:42, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
 
[[User:Nusent]] 17:50, 2 July 2013 (EDT)
 
:Hence why the article is called "Halo Xbox One." The article you cite still points out it's an actual game.--[[User:Hawki|Hawki]] ([[User talk:Hawki|talk]]) 18:19, 2 July 2013 (EDT)
::Yeah, just because it isn't Halo 5 it doesn't mean it should be deleted. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 19:02, 2 July 2013 (EDT)
:::I concur. Let's not be hasty and jump to conclusions, shall we? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 20:19, 2 July 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
::::Not ''Halo 5'' or ''Halo 2 Anniversary''? I've got no ideas on what this is going to be :/ [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 21:56, 3 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::The game ''could'' be ''Halo 5'', it's just not announced yet. The trailer was merely there to announce the coming of the franchise to Xbox One and let the fans speculate. It could also be something else, but at this point it's barely possible to imagine what that would be. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 08:55, 4 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::: Imrane, The article that Nusent linked states that "Halo Xbox One" is NOT "Halo 5". did you not read the article before stating what you did? [[User:1-10|1-10]] ([[User talk:1-10|talk]]) 12:37, 5 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::And they're using big words for nothing. They keep repeating that "the game is not Halo 5", etc. but Spencer never ''said'' anything about that. Read the original IGN interview [http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/25/microsoft-on-halo-5-halo-2-anniversary here]. The only reason why they didn't reveal the name was because the trailer was just to announce the franchise's arrival on Xbox One. It could be Halo: spin-off blabla as well as Halo 5, we just don't know anything yet. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 21:46, 5 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::Oh, a trailer for the universe as a whole, not anything specific, that makes sense. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:42, 6 July 2013 (EDT)
 
== Halo 5 leak ==
 
Should we mention the supposed leak of Halo 5 at the Microsoft Meeting in the article? [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 15:41, 9 July 2013 (EDT)
 
:No. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 11:27, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
::I haven't heard of any supposed leaks. Also, leaked content is not allowed.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:37, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
 
==Plot "leak"==
The plot posted on the Microsoft Store has been [http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=79109993&postcount=240  confirmed as an error made by a "hapless employee" by Frankie], and has since been removed from the site. I would suggest we remove it, as it does not represent anything from the ''Halo Xbox One'' plotline, and is an error. Just so we aren't misleading anyone. :) --<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 05:44, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
 
Done. '''Ok, so maybe don't always use the DMR anymore. That two shot-melee is pretty good. This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 06:23, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
 
==Amazon Pre-order==
I just noticed that this is available for pre order on Amazon. How should we incorporate this into the article? Should we, even? I can't show the link, because the spam filter won't let me, but if you search for "Halo Xbox One" on Amazon you can see what I mean. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:18, 19 April 2014 (EDT)
:Pre-order offers ahead of the actual release is quite common. In fact, it is so common that it's trivial to even list it in the article. Unless there's any special announcement alongside the pre-order, I would suggest not putting it in the article.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  07:50, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
 
::What about the release date mentioned? Should we include that? Seeing as it is unconfirmed by 343i, probably not, right? --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 08:33, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
 
:::Right on the money. :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  08:35, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
 
::::Okay! I just figured I should mention this, just in case it was valuable.  :)
 
:::::It's still good to know, for us people that read talk pages; more info is always good, it just doesn't always go in the article. If it was any other date I'd consider supporting adding it, but we've always known it's coming out sometime this year, so the date being the very last day possible is obviously a placeholder. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 18:46, 21 April 2014 (EDT)
 
== Logo Image doesn't show up ==
 
I noticed that the image "File:Halo5 Logo onDark CMYK Final.jpg" doesn't show up (x in the box indicating an error w/ the image). I tried reloading it and nothing shows up. Anyone else have this issue?--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:56, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
:I'm not having any issue on my end. It could just be your internet connection, or you may need to clear your cache.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:03, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::I just tried it w/ google chrome and it shows up fine, but not w/ internet explorer. ??? I guess it's the browser. How do you clear the cache?--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:08, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
:::For IE (which I am using...the horror), it's Ctrl+F5, but I don't know about other browsers.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:11, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::::Thanks for the commands. Unfortunately it didn't work. IE for yah. I guess I'll have to switch over to GC for the time being to see it. lol--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:16, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
 
== Digital feature and TV series connections ==
 
Does anyone happen to have sources linking ''Halo 5'' to Spielberg's and Ridley Scott's respective projects? I could swear I've seen that info somewhere, at least in relation to Scott's digital feature (which looks like it's shaping up to be the ''Forward Unto Dawn'' equivalent for our new ONI character). If they do exist, it'd be nice to have the connections mentioned on the page. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:58, 19 May 2014 (EDT)
 
 
== Unidentified Spartan-IV ==
 
Do you think it's too early to give the guy in the box art his own page? Also, since he has the ONI logo on his chest, should we mention him on the [[ONI Security]] page?  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 18:08, 19 May 2014 (EDT)

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Pro-John117 bias[edit]

This article has a clear pro John-117 bias and needs to be cleaned up.—This unsigned comment was made by 98.65.201.42 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

If you could please explain a little more, that would be great, because I fail to see how the article is "biased" in any way. After all, John-117 is sort of the main character of the game and entire series. His backstory between Halo 4 and now is pretty central to the game too.--Spartacus TalkContribs 16:24, 18 September 2015 (EDT)
John-117 is one of two main characters, as was the case with Halo 2, and in Reach there are arguably 6 main characters. There can be more than one main character but the article says he is the solitary protagonist alluding to Locke being somehow lesser or inferior in role when 343 have multiple times stated the opposite (they are even depicted as equals face to face on the cover art of the game)—This unsigned comment was made by 98.65.201.42 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~
No, it doesn't. The article states John-117 is the primary protagonist of the series, not of the game. The next paragraph which is solely about Locke opens with the following: "Halo 5: Guardians also features another playable protagonist...". Sign your comments.--Spartacus TalkContribs 15:46, 23 September 2015 (EDT)

Vehicle position switching[edit]

It appears from this video that it is possible to switch positions in a vehicle. Should we add this to the article? Thanks, --Weeping Angel (talk) 19:30, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

I added that fact a while ago.Sith Venator Mega Blastoise.gif (Dank Memes) 19:45, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
Haha, my bad. Thanks! --Weeping Angel (talk) 21:58, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

Spoilers[edit]

I assume now that a bunch of a-holes are spoiling the game all over the internet we all are going to be extra vigilant to stop them here? I know I will be. Alertfiend - Team Chief 20:55, 12 October 2015 (EDT)

The Administration team will be extra-vigilant for spoilers and will deal with them in accordance with the policy.--Spartacus TalkContribs 21:53, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
It also may not hurt to lock pages of important characters and objects relating to the game until it is released. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 22:06, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
I agree. We did the same thing with Halo 4 if I remember right.--Spartacus TalkContribs 22:16, 12 October 2015 (EDT)


Team Majestic[edit]

Have Team Majestic along with all of it's members been actually proved to appear in Halo 5? Besides the fact that Thorne was originally supposed to take Buck's place, all proofs I know, is a shot from "A Hero Reborn", in which someone noticed "Madsen" in a script, which we don't know even to be final and featured in game. It could also be just a mention. Is that enough to make an assumption? PatrickRus (talk) 07:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

I agree the brief shot of the script probably not enough proof of their presence. It's better to be safe than sorry, so I'm removing it for now. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 10:04, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
Cleaned up Majestic's page, as well as it's members.PatrickRus (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

Additional Characters[edit]

Aside from the mention of "Sloan" (his name is Governor Sloan), there's a few other AIs who joined the Created that should be listed. Those who joined in the scene where we had hundreds join are Cromwell, Shipboard AI on the UNSC Melbourne's Pride, Jiang, the Colonial Authority AI on Erdenet, Rykers, and others. Should these be listed? I'm not sure how so, and of course the article is protected, so I can't do anything about it.Gregzilla (talk) 20:54, 27 October 2015 (EDT)

Honestly, I would think all but a few AIs joined Domana and the Created, such as Roland and Black-Box. It would be to much of a trouble to list all of them and unless someone gets a hold of the script for Halo 5, I would only go for the AIs that get subtitled. Alertfiend - Team Chief 21:09, 27 October 2015 (EDT)

The ones that got subtitled, in that case, are Cromwell and Jiang. Can those be added?Gregzilla (talk) 19:14, 30 October 2015 (EDT)

Are we meant to recognize the [spoiler][edit]

Legendary ending spoiler
Are we supposed to recognize the tune that Cortana is humming during the Legendary ending with the Halo? And for that matter, I'm just assuming it's Cortana, but I'm not certain. Anyway, someone told me that it's similar to some tune Guilty Spark has hummed before, but it doesn't sound familiar to me.

olanmills (talk) 04:47, 21 December 2015 (EST)

This is the piece you are looking for. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 06:10, 21 December 2015 (EST)

Given the fact that the very small part Cortana hums can indeed be recognized as that same Debussy's song, can be also named in the "Plot Synopsis" section, replacing "Piano music"? There is another mention of the same Prélude in Ghosts of Onyx, also by Dr. Halsey, so I think it has background in-Universe. Jz60023 (talk) 22:30, 2 April 2016 (EDT)jz60023

When should we add a section for critical reception?[edit]

EVERY SINGLE reviewer said that the story was bad. They praised a lot of things but the story was deemed as bad by almost all reviewers: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/10/26/theres-a-huge-problem-with-these-halo-5-reviews-and-only-one-way-to-solve-it/#16c4a8483bf4


We should add a receptions section.

Go ahead and add it, though our reception section for Halo 3 doesn't even mention campaign and that bad story.Sith Venator Mega Blastoise.gif (Dank Memes) 17:23, 5 February 2016 (EST)

Every single is a incorrect statement a lot but not all. Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 20:59, 5 February 2016 (EST)

Actually every single major/official reviewer (IGN, Gamespot, Polygon, etc) in fact said that the story was bad, I have a source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/10/26/theres-a-huge-problem-with-these-halo-5-reviews-and-only-one-way-to-solve-it/#4a66c7c3bf4f
If you go to each review, you will see that the negative comments of the game all point to the story. That's their words, not mine.Editorguy (talk) 23:46, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
That is four out of hundreds of reviewers, I am not arguing against the campaign being bad, I am arguing the hyberbole Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 01:54, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
I meant major reviewer. There are hundreds of reviews, but only a portion of them are official companies that reviewed the game (Gamespot, IGN, Polygon, Guardian, Gametrailers, Escapist, etc). Anyway, if we add in the section, we can use this a source, it includes even the smaller review companies: http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/halo-5-guardians Editorguy (talk) 06:59, 23 May 2016 (EDT)

Why was the boxart image changed?[edit]

As far as I can tell this box image exists only on this website and does not resemble any official box. Seems like fan art. Getting ready to revert it back unless someone says otherwise.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]FluffyEmoPenguin(ice quack!) 22:04, 13 March 2016 (EDT)

I got it from Wal-Mart's website, and was the only box art I found to actually have the rating on the box.Sith Venator Mega Blastoise.gif (Dank Memes) 22:23, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
Ah, well it seems like this is something Wal-Mart adds themselves and isn't an official box. It's just modified Xbox 360 boxart now that I look at it. The official Xbox website has a version with the rating on it, so I'll put that one up.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]FluffyEmoPenguin(ice quack!) 13:10, 16 March 2016 (EDT)

Marketing[edit]

How would you guys feel if we split the marketing section into a new article: "Marketing of Halo 5: Guardians". For reference: Wikipedia's marketing of Halo 3. I feel like it would benefit the main article, as currently we have like over 20 subsections for different features of Halo 5 marketing media and most of them are only a couple lines long. Instead, we can go into detail about the marketing in the new article, while still summarizing it in the main article. Any thoughts? --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 20:57, 11 June 2016 (EDT)

That's probably a better solution, for this and other game articles with massive marketing sections. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 01:55, 12 June 2016 (EDT)

M6G Hologram[edit]

Was fixing the appearances section a little and noticed that it said "M6G magnum (Forge Spawn Hologram only)". So you can spawn it in forge but as a hologram? Is this the pistol that the initial spawnpoints have or something? --Crisperstorm (talk) 00:08, 20 August 2016 (EDT)

The Initial spawn points have the same hologram since Halo Reach. The EXACT SAME. So this means in a really technical level. The M6G and Mark V(B) appear in Halo 5.-CIA391 (talk) 06:24, 20 August 2016 (EDT)

List of Maps[edit]

Quick suggestion, would it be useful to list the "remixes" of multiplayer maps with an indent underneath the map they are a remix of? For example:

  • Truth
    • Regret

At present they're listed separately in the alphabetical list. Opinions? --LOMI Speaketh 23:42, 18 September 2016 (EDT)