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Does anyone else have an issue with the initial walkthrough prompts in [[Infinity (Halo 4 level)|Infinity]] displaying (A) for the stomp when it should be (B)?? (I am using 'Recon' control scheme fyi) <font face="eurostile"><font size="2.1">[[User:K4|<font color="#black">k</font>]]</font><font size="3.1">[[User talk:K4|<font color="#696969">4</font>]]</font><font size="2.1">[[Special:Contributions/K4|<font color="black">karnage</font>]]</font></font> 03:30, 4 December 2012 (EST)
Does anyone else have an issue with the initial walkthrough prompts in [[Infinity (Halo 4 level)|Infinity]] displaying (A) for the stomp when it should be (B)?? (I am using 'Recon' control scheme fyi) <font face="eurostile"><font size="2.1">[[User:K4|<font color="#black">k</font>]]</font><font size="3.1">[[User talk:K4|<font color="#696969">4</font>]]</font><font size="2.1">[[Special:Contributions/K4|<font color="black">karnage</font>]]</font></font> 03:30, 4 December 2012 (EST)
:The same thing happened to me. I was annoyed at first, but then I realized I should just press (B) instead. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 11:08, 4 December 2012 (EST)
:The same thing happened to me. I was annoyed at first, but then I realized I should just press (B) instead. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 11:08, 4 December 2012 (EST)
==Manufacturing Cost?==
Hey, is there information available anywhere about how much this costs to mass produce? I read somewhere (probably here in its respective article) that the original H/Y Mark I ADS was very costly to produce, more costly than even MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor. So how does this particular powered exoskeleton differ in cost from the original and from MJOLNIR? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 17:03, 5 March 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330
:A lot of the production costs when developing something from scratch go into innovation - new systems, new ideas, etc. The original Hrunting/Ygdrassil was expensive because there was just one. The Mantis is produced on a wider scale, so individual cost is probably far lower, though I don't doubt developing the Mark IX prototype was still expensive. As for exact figures, we just don't know until someone from 343i or a novel author says, and I don't know if it's really important enough to mention. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:39, 5 March 2014 (EST)
==2403==
I'm pretty confident if prototypes were being used on Meridian in 2551 than 2403 is a massive typo/mistake on 343i's part.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 20:57, 16 January 2016 (EST)
:Yeah... the H4EVG says the Mantis at Meridian was the first prototype. It's almost certainly a mistake as even 2503 would seem off, so we should probably mention it in a note or something. [[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 00:52, 17 January 2016 (EST)
::If I had to guess they meant 2553, to line up with The Thursday War.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:58, 17 January 2016 (EST)
:I agree that the 2403 date can be safely ruled out as an error. Even the very same Waypoint article states that ''"These efforts met with mixed success during the Covenant War due to lack of engineers and high tier manufacturing facilities; it was only after the conflict ended that the full potential of YGGDRASIL was realized."'' The Mantis' MJOLNIR-derived lineage alone makes it more recent than 2525, and since it's the ninth iteration of the exoskeleton program that started with the suit from ''Prototype'', everything points to it being a late Covenant War/early post-war creation. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:46, 17 January 2016 (EST)
::I agreed, but now I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the excerpt: [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/vehicles/mantis "An evolution of earlier HRUNTING exoskeletons..."] The [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/vehicles/cyclops Cyclops article] didn't give much information on the origin of HRUNTING. This could be a reference to the earliest iteration possible of this multi-projects item. The closest example would be the [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/vehicles/warthog Warthog article], which gives the pre-Warthog Z-12 prototype's date instead of the M12 Warthog FAV's date. Though the period is much shorter there. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 02:03, 16 February 2016 (EST)

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Powered exoskeleton[edit]

Would the Mantis really be classified as a powered exoskeleton, given how it isn't actually "worn" by the occupant like a suit of armor but is, for all intents and purposes, a vehicle on legs? We haven't seen the cockpit or input method but it seems like it controls more like a traditional vehicle than, say, MJOLNIR armor which envelopes the wearer and enhances their movements. The shape of the Mantis wouldn't allow for the natural range of movement of the human body anyway. As far as ordinary conversation goes, I think it would be called a "mech", but I'm somewhat averse toward the use of that term. Maybe something more descriptive, like "bipedal fighting vehicle"? --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 12:41, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

Armoured fighting vehicle seems more appropriate since it can cover mechanised walkers.— subtank 12:51, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
We could just call it what it is- a Mecha.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 13:23, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

Page name.[edit]

The page name should be "HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark IX ADS" Not just "Mark IX ADS" as that lacks context, also the HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark I page has the full name.ArchedThunder 23:08, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

Dear God no! Grizzlei
The Mark I includes that name and just saying "Mark IX" lacks context, the Mark IX what?ArchedThunder 23:28, 29 October 2012 (EDT)
Could just ignore shortening the designation and just use its full title for the article name and in the introduction. The rest of the article should make use of the short designation. — subtank 23:38, 29 October 2012 (EDT)
Or if the full designation is too long it could be trimmed down to "HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark IX"for the article name. The HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL is a more important part of the name than ADS.ArchedThunder 23:50, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

prompt error[edit]

Does anyone else have an issue with the initial walkthrough prompts in Infinity displaying (A) for the stomp when it should be (B)?? (I am using 'Recon' control scheme fyi) k4karnage 03:30, 4 December 2012 (EST)

The same thing happened to me. I was annoyed at first, but then I realized I should just press (B) instead. --Courage never dies. 11:08, 4 December 2012 (EST)

Manufacturing Cost?[edit]

Hey, is there information available anywhere about how much this costs to mass produce? I read somewhere (probably here in its respective article) that the original H/Y Mark I ADS was very costly to produce, more costly than even MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor. So how does this particular powered exoskeleton differ in cost from the original and from MJOLNIR? --Xamikaze330 [Transmission|Commencing] 17:03, 5 March 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330

A lot of the production costs when developing something from scratch go into innovation - new systems, new ideas, etc. The original Hrunting/Ygdrassil was expensive because there was just one. The Mantis is produced on a wider scale, so individual cost is probably far lower, though I don't doubt developing the Mark IX prototype was still expensive. As for exact figures, we just don't know until someone from 343i or a novel author says, and I don't know if it's really important enough to mention. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 23:39, 5 March 2014 (EST)

2403[edit]

I'm pretty confident if prototypes were being used on Meridian in 2551 than 2403 is a massive typo/mistake on 343i's part.Sith Venator Mega Blastoise.gif (Dank Memes) 20:57, 16 January 2016 (EST)

Yeah... the H4EVG says the Mantis at Meridian was the first prototype. It's almost certainly a mistake as even 2503 would seem off, so we should probably mention it in a note or something. NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 00:52, 17 January 2016 (EST)
If I had to guess they meant 2553, to line up with The Thursday War.Sith Venator Mega Blastoise.gif (Dank Memes) 00:58, 17 January 2016 (EST)
I agree that the 2403 date can be safely ruled out as an error. Even the very same Waypoint article states that "These efforts met with mixed success during the Covenant War due to lack of engineers and high tier manufacturing facilities; it was only after the conflict ended that the full potential of YGGDRASIL was realized." The Mantis' MJOLNIR-derived lineage alone makes it more recent than 2525, and since it's the ninth iteration of the exoskeleton program that started with the suit from Prototype, everything points to it being a late Covenant War/early post-war creation. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 11:46, 17 January 2016 (EST)
I agreed, but now I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the excerpt: "An evolution of earlier HRUNTING exoskeletons..." The Cyclops article didn't give much information on the origin of HRUNTING. This could be a reference to the earliest iteration possible of this multi-projects item. The closest example would be the Warthog article, which gives the pre-Warthog Z-12 prototype's date instead of the M12 Warthog FAV's date. Though the period is much shorter there. Imrane-117 (talk) 02:03, 16 February 2016 (EST)