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''To view archived arguements you can | ''To view archived arguements you can click here'' | ||
==Its an Assault Carrier but FlagShip?== | ==Its an Assault Carrier but FlagShip?== | ||
We've established that is an Assault Carrier, | We've established that is an Assault Carrier, click here for the full discussion, but below are the highlights: | ||
# | #In this Image HBO does calls it an Assault Carrier -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] | ||
#{{quote|Registering all hostile vessels inside the kill zone. Thirteen cruisers, two '''assault carriers'''. I'm going loud!|[[Cortana]] in the | #{{quote|Registering all hostile vessels inside the kill zone. Thirteen cruisers, two '''assault carriers'''. I'm going loud!|[[Cortana]] in the First Battle of Earth}} | ||
::the above quote was provided by [[User:RelentlessRecusant|RelentlessRecusant]] | ::the above quote was provided by [[User:RelentlessRecusant|RelentlessRecusant]] | ||
Now is it a flagship? | Now is it a flagship? | ||
#The flagship is ''two kilometers long'' and from Stephen Loftus's work on HBO, the assault carrier is ''something like five kilometers long''. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font> | #The flagship is ''two kilometers long'' and from Stephen Loftus's work on HBO, the assault carrier is ''something like five kilometers long''. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''' | ||
::*[cough]three kilometers, not two[/cough]--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1535 9.12.06 | ::*[cough]three kilometers, not two[/cough]--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1535 9.12.06 | ||
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*Well, I don't think the ''Ascendant Justice'' is an Assault Carrier for that matter anyway. The ''Ascendant Justice'' is 3000m long and is bulbous like a covenant destroyer, whereas the Assault Carrier we see in Halo 2 is supposed to be somewhere around 5000m long and isn't bulbous, more round and flat.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1853 7.12.06 | *Well, I don't think the ''Ascendant Justice'' is an Assault Carrier for that matter anyway. The ''Ascendant Justice'' is 3000m long and is bulbous like a covenant destroyer, whereas the Assault Carrier we see in Halo 2 is supposed to be somewhere around 5000m long and isn't bulbous, more round and flat.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1853 7.12.06 | ||
:*I believe it was mentioned as such in the FS but I don't have the book with me. The ''Ascendant Justice'' was listed in this article when it was migrated and as such I am unable to tell who first stated that the ''Ascendant Justice'' was a [[Covenant | :*I believe it was mentioned as such in the FS but I don't have the book with me. The ''Ascendant Justice'' was listed in this article when it was migrated and as such I am unable to tell who first stated that the ''Ascendant Justice'' was a [[Covenant assault carrier]]. Although [[User:Dragonclaws|Admin Dragonclaws]] seems to have written it. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
::*[[Halo: First Strike]] only refers to the ''Ascendant Justice'' as a flagship, and makes a reference that it is a carrier. However, Carrier and Assault Carrier may well be seperate ships, as Assault Carrier might be a larger version of Carrier, similar to the Supercarrier. However, all of that is also speculation, so for now I would say that we cannot say with 100% surity (is that a word? better than sureness I suppose) that the ''Ascendant Justice'' is of the Assault Carrier variety, so it should be removed from the article.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 2147 7.12.06 | ::*[[Halo: First Strike]] only refers to the ''Ascendant Justice'' as a flagship, and makes a reference that it is a carrier. However, Carrier and Assault Carrier may well be seperate ships, as Assault Carrier might be a larger version of Carrier, similar to the Supercarrier. However, all of that is also speculation, so for now I would say that we cannot say with 100% surity (is that a word? better than sureness I suppose) that the ''Ascendant Justice'' is of the Assault Carrier variety, so it should be removed from the article.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 2147 7.12.06 | ||
:::*I've grown tired of waiting for resistance, so I've changed the page to fit with what I believe to be fact. If you disagree, post here and if you so strongly disagree that you believe what I have done is heresy, put a FactOrFiction thingy up or restore the page or something.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1305 9.12.06 | :::*I've grown tired of waiting for resistance, so I've changed the page to fit with what I believe to be fact. If you disagree, post here and if you so strongly disagree that you believe what I have done is heresy, put a FactOrFiction thingy up or restore the page or something.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1305 9.12.06 | ||
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Cheers, | Cheers, | ||
<tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]'' | <tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''''']</tt> 23:11, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
No offence, but as it says in many articles, a flagship can be any type of ship that heads the fleet, usually the larger, more powerful ones though. An assault carrier is closer to 5400 meters than 3000 meters. Also, as previously mentioned, the Ascendant Justice could have been a carrier. They may both be similar in appearance, but either way, it was powerful enough to be used as a flagship. [[user:Honor Guard Reborn]] | No offence, but as it says in many articles, a flagship can be any type of ship that heads the fleet, usually the larger, more powerful ones though. An assault carrier is closer to 5400 meters than 3000 meters. Also, as previously mentioned, the Ascendant Justice could have been a carrier. They may both be similar in appearance, but either way, it was powerful enough to be used as a flagship. [[user:Honor Guard Reborn]] | ||
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As per the Board message I sent. [[User:Delta-269|<font color="Olive">SPARTAN-G156</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Delta-269|<font color="Red">COM Channel</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Delta-269|<font color="MidnightBlue">Past Battles</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[ | As per the Board message I sent. [[User:Delta-269|<font color="Olive">SPARTAN-G156</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Delta-269|<font color="Red">COM Channel</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Delta-269|<font color="MidnightBlue">Past Battles</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[halofanon:SPARTAN-G156|<font color="Black">My History</font>]]</sup> 19:50, 22 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Relation between types of Carrier== | ==Relation between types of Carrier== | ||
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:I'm not exactly sure about the internal layout for an Assault Carrier, but I really doubt that the head was "bolted on". If it was, then it wouldn't have the consistency that it has - the Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo Wars graphic novel, etc versions all look identical, indicating its an actual warship class. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[ | :I'm not exactly sure about the internal layout for an Assault Carrier, but I really doubt that the head was "bolted on". If it was, then it wouldn't have the consistency that it has - the Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo Wars graphic novel, etc versions all look identical, indicating its an actual warship class. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
::It's certainly possible, but it would be poor design as making a part separate always make it easier to break apart. Poor designs don't survive battles. And Assault Carriers certainly did. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 09:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC) | ::It's certainly possible, but it would be poor design as making a part separate always make it easier to break apart. Poor designs don't survive battles. And Assault Carriers certainly did. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 09:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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==The Bridge?== | ==The Bridge?== | ||
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this isnt the bridge its a room in High charity! [[User talk:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] 12:21, February 13, 2010 (UTC) | this isnt the bridge its a room in High charity! [[User talk:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] 12:21, February 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||