Talk:Covenant cruiser

Facts Confirmed

• On 125.203.122.53 03:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC) had some issues with this article, including, "There is no such thing as a Heavy Cruiser. This is Fan Fiction! There are just CAR-class Cruisers. Prove me wrong! find a quote that says Heavy Cruiser!". However on 15:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC) they were resolved:

I'll find that quote when I have time. Don't worry. Cheers, RelentlessRecusant 14:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I would like to point out that Ket-pattern battlecruisers are often refered to as just "cruisers" (even though cruiser and battle-cruiser are two different ship types) and it may also be a Reverence-class or a light cruiser being spoken of in his source as they are all Cruisers Basicly.Maiar 00:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Shaw-Fujikawa Drives on a Covenant Cruiser?

Just a question, but should the Shaw-Fujikawa drive be put on a Covenant Cruiser? I mean, I don't know what the Covenant use, but I just thought I might point out that the Covenant, obviously, don't use Shaw-Fujikawa drives. If I am wrong and misunderstood something, then I am sorry. As I said, just pointing that out. Lekrel 05:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

User:RelentlessRecusant at 17:03, 20 November 2006 added that this type of ship had Shaw-Fujikawa drive. If he doesn't answer here we can take this to his talk page. -- Esemono 07:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Picking a size

I'm glad you finally decided on the size of the Cruiser! Looking over the history it seems like you've had a tough time:

1. Length - between 300–2000 meters -- RelentlessRogue 20:31, 12 August 2006
2. 300-1782.2 meters -- RelentlessRogue 03:06, 19 November 2006
3. 300–1455 meters -- RelentlessRogue 14:17, 24 November 2006
4. 1455 meters -- User:J!MMY-008 23:42, 28 November 2006
5. 300–1455 meters -- RelentlessRogue 23:05, 30 November 2006
6. 1000–1455 meters -- RelentlessRogue 00:51, 26 December 2006

new picture

I put a picture of a covenant cruiser and it saids its a covenant light cruiser the picture but I look it up in a book called "the art of halo creating a video game" and I saw the same picture and it says this covenant ship is a covenant cruiser.

Cruiser vs. Ket-pattern

Considering what was said earlier on this page,and that the games and novels tend to take their own routes with things, and don't always agree (The Clad was described as a destroyer in the novels for example), would it be reasonable to think that the Ket-pattern battlecruiser and the "Covenant cruiser" of the novels are the same ship? Maybe this has been decided to be incorrect, but I would like to know what people think. Quakeomaniac 04:47, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I agree same with the assult carier and the carier. Those pages should be redirecrted or deleted.

There are more than one type of cruiser traditionally. Light and Heavy cruisers being the most common variety. Quite frankly, i don't see any need to delete those pages until we have enough evidence to say otherwise.--Zervziel 08:00, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

The Destroyer part was a simply error. We have no information to confirm that all Covenant Cruisers encountered by the UNSC during the war were Ket-pattern. To be honest, that would be a very bad idea on the Covenant's part, as if the class were designed with a flaw, the UNSC would be able to abuse it on all cruisers.-- Forerunner 15:33, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Of course we keep the distinction between "cruiser" and "light cruiser", since there we have a stated difference between the two, but there isn't anything that seems to suggest that the normal cruiser is distinct from the Ket-pattern. Therefore I think this page should be merged with the Ket-pattern cruiser. D3in0nychu5 16:28, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Even in the games, no one ever says Ket-pattern battlecruiser, they just say cruiser. They should be merged. There's probably going to a long debate with no resolution though. DA BEST 21:25, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Untrue - it was used a few times in Halo: Combat Evolved. Even then, they say "battlecruiser" a lot, too.-- Forerunner 21:44, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Still, the same ships (ex. The Truth and Reconciliation) are called both a cruiser and a battlecruiser. Which is why their most likely the same thing. DA BEST 22:22, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

The Halo Encyclopedia confirms that they are different. Furthermore, if there was only one type of cruiser known, why call it the "CCS-class Battlecruiser?" - what stops it from being "Covenant cruiser"?-- Forerunner 17:27, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

They also been described as different sizes. A Ket is slightly larger than the average Covenant cruiser. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 18:25, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

Article grouping

I suggest that this article be re-written as an "umbrella article" to group information on the ORS-, RCS-, and Reverence-class cruisers, similar to the current layout of the Covenant destroyer article.--The All-knowing Sith'ari 18:18, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

I agree. Shouldn't we change this article a bit? It looks like the page is for a specific class or something like that, but it's mostly about the cruisers that were not particularly identified. The Essential Visual Guide explains that there are many classes, so this article should be an "umbrella article" as stated above. Imrane-117 (talk) 14:45, 2 August 2013 (EDT)

Anyway, I don't know what was said in the original Encyclopedia, but after checking the most recent version, I can see that the different Covenant cruisers mentioned are: the light cruiser, the heavy cruiser, the Ket-pattern battlecruiser and the Varric-pattern heavy cruiser. The ships' lengths match those stated in the Essential Visual Guide. As for this current "Covenant cruiser" which is 1,000 metres long, there's no such ship mentioned either in the Encyclopedia (2011 edition) or the Essential Visual Guide. I guess I'll update this page later when I can, unless anyone has anything to add. Imrane-117 (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2013 (EDT)