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:Disregard my previous post. I just watched ''Legends'' for the first time in a few months and noticed that he in only credited as "The Prophet of Truth" is the Japanese version of the episode. He is credited as "The Prophet" in the English dub. My bad. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:34, 5 June 2011 (EDT) | :Disregard my previous post. I just watched ''Legends'' for the first time in a few months and noticed that he in only credited as "The Prophet of Truth" is the Japanese version of the episode. He is credited as "The Prophet" in the English dub. My bad. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:34, 5 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
== "Sanghelios" == | |||
I realize the difficulty of giving this page a proper title, but isn't the current title somewhat misleading? He's never indicated to be present on Sanghelios (that I can remember anyway, my memory could fail me on this), as the location he's shown in is evidently meant to be the High Council Chamber. Could it be something related to his role in defacing the title of the Arbiter? Any ideas? --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:01, 17 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:Unidentified Hierarch (The Duel) would probably be the easiest even with his appearance in the H2A terminals.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 01:05, 17 November 2014 (EST) | |||
::He's the only "Unidentified Hierarch", so we can as well drop the brackets. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 01:29, 17 November 2014 (EST) | |||
== These are different Hierarchs. == | |||
The garb of the Hierarch in this picture is completely different from the one from the Duel. | |||
*[http://www.halopedia.org/images/thumb/c/c9/UnknownHierarch.jpg/300px-UnknownHierarch.jpg] | |||
*[http://www.halopedia.org/images/thumb/2/27/H2A_Terminals_-_Unidentified_Hierarch.jpg/640px-H2A_Terminals_-_Unidentified_Hierarch.jpg] | |||
*[http://www.halopedia.org/images/4/40/H2A_Terminals_-_Hierarch_and_Fal.jpg] | |||
Completely different crown as well. The Hierarch from The Duel in the terminals actually has a very similar garb and throne to the one he has in the animated series. Two separate articles are needed. The Hierarch with the angular design was Hierarch during the Taming of the Lekgolo; hundreds of years before 'Chavamee's rebellion. [[User:Councilor 'Rumilee|Councilor 'Rumilee]] ([[User talk:Councilor 'Rumilee|talk]]) 13:08, 3 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:These images come from the scene in the [[Terminal/Halo 2 Anniversary/Seven|seventh]] terminal, where Sesa 'Refumee is talking about how Fal 'Chavamee (not mentioned by name but obvious enough) committed heresy by challenging the word of the Hierarchs. It's undoubtedly the same Hierarch, the difference in appearance merely being artistic license.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:50, 3 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:: I don't think so. Especially considering the other hierarch pictured has different robes and is of the same design of the Hierarch during the Taming of the Lekgolo. Furthermore, its not really clear the Arbiter pictured is 'Chavamee. Especially considering many of the Arbiters share the same models.[[User:Councilor 'Rumilee|Councilor 'Rumilee]] ([[User talk:Councilor 'Rumilee|talk]]) 00:27, 5 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::The Hierarch from ''The Duel'' is essentially a copy of Truth. His representation in the terminal is likely an attempt to give the character a unique appearance to set him aside from Truth. And the Arbiter is definitely 'Chavamee. That scene features 'Chavamee arguing with the Hierarch, and then has Haka and another Sangheili move towards them, and then cuts to Haka's and 'Chavamee's deaths. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 00:41, 5 August 2015 (EDT) |
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Oddly, the credits of The Duel refers this prophet as the Prophet of Truth. A mistake made by the Japanese studio, 343 Industries or simply an oversight?外国人(7alk) 01:44, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
- I remember reading somewhere that the High Prophets take their name from former high Prophets so it is possible that this Prophet is was the orginally Truth that Truth named himself after (it would make alot of sense since this one made Arbitor a rank of shame and our Truth does hate the Elites). That is if the info I said is right (I think it maight had come from Contact Harvest). SPARTAN-177 22:22, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
- I know that. What I was trying to say was that I remember reading somewhere that the High Prophets chose their new names from a list of former Prophets. EDIT: Page 385 of Contact Harvest has this:
- Acoording to tradition, he could had picked any names he wished from a long list of former Hierarchs'. SPARTAN-177 22:36, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe it IS truth. Phrophets are supposed to live around 200 years or more aren't they?
Irony[edit]
Follwing the Irony pattern of Truth, Regret, Mercy, and Restraint, this guy probably had a name. Liquid Ink 11:21, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
New article title[edit]
I feel that this article should be renamed Prophet of Truth (*Insert descriptor here.*). He is credited as the Prophet of Truth in an official source, so we can't just offhandedly say that it's an oversight. We know that each Hierarch takes the name of one of his/her forebears; unless someone from 343 Industries confirms that it is an oversight, he is indeed the namesake of the Prophet of Truth.
The problem is, "What should the descriptor be?" Of course, it can't include "(The Duel)", as that would only fix half the problem. Thoughts? --Courage never dies. 21:00, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- Disregard my previous post. I just watched Legends for the first time in a few months and noticed that he in only credited as "The Prophet of Truth" is the Japanese version of the episode. He is credited as "The Prophet" in the English dub. My bad. --Courage never dies. 09:34, 5 June 2011 (EDT)
"Sanghelios"[edit]
I realize the difficulty of giving this page a proper title, but isn't the current title somewhat misleading? He's never indicated to be present on Sanghelios (that I can remember anyway, my memory could fail me on this), as the location he's shown in is evidently meant to be the High Council Chamber. Could it be something related to his role in defacing the title of the Arbiter? Any ideas? --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 01:01, 17 November 2014 (EST)
- Unidentified Hierarch (The Duel) would probably be the easiest even with his appearance in the H2A terminals.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 01:05, 17 November 2014 (EST)
- He's the only "Unidentified Hierarch", so we can as well drop the brackets. Imrane-117 (talk) 01:29, 17 November 2014 (EST)
These are different Hierarchs.[edit]
The garb of the Hierarch in this picture is completely different from the one from the Duel.
Completely different crown as well. The Hierarch from The Duel in the terminals actually has a very similar garb and throne to the one he has in the animated series. Two separate articles are needed. The Hierarch with the angular design was Hierarch during the Taming of the Lekgolo; hundreds of years before 'Chavamee's rebellion. Councilor 'Rumilee (talk) 13:08, 3 August 2015 (EDT)
- These images come from the scene in the seventh terminal, where Sesa 'Refumee is talking about how Fal 'Chavamee (not mentioned by name but obvious enough) committed heresy by challenging the word of the Hierarchs. It's undoubtedly the same Hierarch, the difference in appearance merely being artistic license.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs 13:50, 3 August 2015 (EDT)
- I don't think so. Especially considering the other hierarch pictured has different robes and is of the same design of the Hierarch during the Taming of the Lekgolo. Furthermore, its not really clear the Arbiter pictured is 'Chavamee. Especially considering many of the Arbiters share the same models.Councilor 'Rumilee (talk) 00:27, 5 August 2015 (EDT)
- The Hierarch from The Duel is essentially a copy of Truth. His representation in the terminal is likely an attempt to give the character a unique appearance to set him aside from Truth. And the Arbiter is definitely 'Chavamee. That scene features 'Chavamee arguing with the Hierarch, and then has Haka and another Sangheili move towards them, and then cuts to Haka's and 'Chavamee's deaths. - NightHammer (talk) 00:41, 5 August 2015 (EDT)
- I don't think so. Especially considering the other hierarch pictured has different robes and is of the same design of the Hierarch during the Taming of the Lekgolo. Furthermore, its not really clear the Arbiter pictured is 'Chavamee. Especially considering many of the Arbiters share the same models.Councilor 'Rumilee (talk) 00:27, 5 August 2015 (EDT)