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:::Well, we ''are'' talking about someone who survived 2 direct hits to the chest at close range with a [[Binary Rifle]]. Then again, maybe that terminal custscene wasn't set to [[Legendary]] difficulty... [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 14:06, 12 January 2013 (EST)

::::::Yea, the quicktime events were not that good. This isn't normally the right section to talk about this, but the powers of the segue cannot be contained by mere mortals. So, on the quicktimes, I think they were either there to be more immersive or just to keep us occupied. However, you do the same thing every time you play them, and to me actually seem less immersive than just a cutscene. This is [http://www.halopedia.org/User:CraZboy557 <span style="color:orange;">'''craZboy557'''</span>], signing off. 16:13, 16 January 2013 (EST)

Based on the [http://blogs.halowaypoint.com/Headlines/post/2013/02/13/The-Halo-Bulletin-21313.aspx new bulletin] it looks like they are fixing one of my issues which is the Boltshot. However they are not exactly fixing it's shotgun blast power. More like they are reducing the range of it which, in my opinion, isn't making that big of a difference, especially w/ campers. Why not just reduce the power of the blast from 1 hit to 2 hits? Also it doesn't look like we'll be getting scoring, since the TU consist of multiplayer fixes.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:15, 14 February 2013 (EST)

== Dawn and Translocation portals in Halo 4 ==

::I swear you post more thought-out responses than I do. Anyway, you're right, FF isn't coming back for Halo 4 and I'm not expecting it too since (like subtank said) H4 is already 4 months in. I was impressed w/ their effort for both episodes, but I do agree that they don't stand out. I was actually disappointed that we weren't able to fly those Broadswords in Ep. 6 Ch. 5. The repetitive levels for Ep. 7 do seem logical since we're stuck on the Infinity clearing it out but I understand what you mean. Honestly, I don't think 343i is giving their best shot. The problem is that they have a lack of '''creativity''' in my opinion. We've seen this already with the forerunner weapons (copy pasted from the UNSC weapons) and it really shows with SpOp w/ all those recycled maps & objectives.  It's the same thing over & over again - we're pressing buttons (and button pressing is LONG in H4) and we're not doing anything else, maybe destroying a generator/jammer core or two. SpOp just seems like a missed opportunity. They're not taking chances - that can have a positive outcome but in this case, its negative. Its almost like they're catering to the "casual" gamer who just wants to shoot stuff for casual pleasure but not get into the nitty-gritty of it all. Here's a [http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/11/23/five-ways-to-improve-halo-4-spartan-ops.aspx?PageIndex=3 nice little article] that expanded on this issue.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:22, 2 February 2013 (EST)

::::How was shutdown a linear mission? It had non-linear structures with even more non-linear objectives, as in you got to go to the one you wanted first. Requiem was wide open, so was Reclaimer, Infinity, most of Forerunner, Shutdown, etc. There were plenty of areas where you could use multiple strategies. They balanced it pretty perfectly with tight and linear environments. And it's not like it's the first time this has happened. Remember PoA? The Library? 343 GS? Truth and Reconciliation? Keyes? The Maw? All of them were linear, small environments. Yet CE also had 4 big levels besides those. So the campaign was balanced (ish). Halo 2 had even more linear and small levels. I agree that SpOps should have more diverse objectives though. I mean, why use the generator and NPC defense gameplay types so scarcely? Incorporate some MP gametypes in there as well, some KoH or extraction? How about a race? Now that would be interesting. Also, stop complaining about map recycling. It's simply impossible for them to make so many maps. It was obvious from the start that this was going to happen. I do wish, however, that they would have incorporated more campaign playspaces (I mean, they are already there). They also should have changed some things like lighting and weather. Just make the repeat maps at night, or add different weather and they would feel somewhat fresh. -[[Special:Contributions/78.97.91.207|78.97.91.207]] 15:10, 4 February 2013 (EST)

{{Quote|Also, stop complaining about map recycling. It's simply impossible for them to make so many maps. It was obvious from the start that this was going to happen.|78.97.91.207}}

:No it wasn't. '''No one''' was expecting to be doing the same mission, on the same level, over & over again. And no, its's not impossible for them to make a lot of maps, its just impossible for our harddrives to take in a lot of capacity. First of all, 343i promised us '''50 missions'''. Not 25 - meaning half of these missions take place on the same map, performing nearly the same objectives. If they couldn't give us multiple locations to do these missions on, let alone diverse objectives, then they should have promised less missions but with more content per mission to make them worthwhile. Basically, 343i bit off more than they could chew. If you're going to crank out 50 missions, then we should expect to be doing majority of them in new locations, not reused locations from campaign, wargames (nothing wrong w/ Ragnarok or Galileo Base though), & worst of all, the previous episode. Again, like I said earlier, its shows lack of creativity and it makes you feel like you're doing the same mission again. SpOps is supposed to be going in a NEW direction, not backwards. You have a point about the weather though. I have yet to see some rain, or snow, or harsh wind in Halo 4 yet.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 18:57, 4 February 2013 (EST)

:I was definitely excited to see Serin in the flesh for the first time, and knowing that Margaret is no longer the top dog at ONI was qquite interesting as well.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:23, 4 February 2013 (EST)

::It was bound to happen sooner or later... Hell, if she's still alive, she'd be nearly 100... That wouldn't leave much time to retire & wash all that blood off of her hands. - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 17:14, 4 February 2013 (EST)

::Maybe, but a neural interface like every other Navy officer has should be enough. Why a spinal interface too? [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]^{([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])} 16:54, 5 February 2013 (EST)

:::That device does look really similar, and cool! It'd be interesting if there were a visible health indicator on Marines or on vehicles. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]^{([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])} 18:29, 5 February 2013 (EST)

Just a random thought - this stems from my opinions from the [[Forum:Halo 4 discussion/Archive#About the weapon sandbox|first topic]] of our discussions here. I was thinking about the Promethean weapons and I thought of four Forerunner weapons that should've been in Halo 4:

All these weapons would have been unique (alien) and more fascinating to use than the stock we have to deal with. Its funny how the first two are in the terminals, yet not in the game. The first one could've replaced the light rifle. I don't know how the second one fires but it's probably a mini-particle cannon. The last two would've been great for continuation had 343i included them in the game.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:28, 17 February 2013 (EST)

::It is funny how the Forerunner's weapons seemingly mimic human weapons & shoot straight w/ no uniqueness or innovation behind them (I sense laziness behind 343i). Also hate the fact that some of the Forerunner weapons have to be "reloaded" (except the Incineration cannon). Should've been similar to some of the Covie weapons where they simply run out of energy rather than having to be reloaded w/ energy cells. Too Human. The Sentinel beam could've been in the game but the Sentinels simply "disappear" when shot at rather than break apart. The third weapon's mechanic could've been implemented in the game where they combine firepower. Oh well. Hope 343i doesn't repeat this in Halo 5.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:17, 18 February 2013 (EST)

:What do you mean? Canon wise, these are actual locations in the Haloverse that were visited by the UNSC. They are still simulations; they can have stuff happening in the background. 343i is allowing us to visit locations in the Haloverse that we heard of in-book but never actually seen.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 05:38, 20 February 2013 (EST)

What is device in the room with the hunters, and 4 logs and index. That is not ment to activate Halo (installation) 3 or is about the mantle of responsibility that may be a vehicle, weapon sight, or (something else) according to the scientist in the log?--[[User:Lian 512|Lian 512]] ([[User talk:Lian 512|talk]]) 22:46, 19 February 2013 (EST)

Why didn't it make a return in Halo 4's campaign? Could this be a sign that we'll get to fly it again soon?--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 05:38, 20 February 2013 (EST)

== REAP-X and new vehicles ==

So according to a number of people on Waypoint who receive Mega Bloks emails, two new toys(?) have been announced with an outline of their in-universe status. A user posted the email's text [https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postsm2357898_Oni-REAP-X.aspx HERE]. According to the email there is a new ONI department called REAP-X who handle research and development and made these new vehicles. They've been given descriptive names in the email rather than the animal based ones we're used to.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 22:42, 8 March 2013 (EST)

:Rarely am I so forward, but for everyone's sake I will be. What the shit, 343i? Why would we need a huge inline skate with machine guns for reconnaissance and why don't you just use the Hornet? BLERG! {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}

I was hoping for a return to the Falcon. I like how it forced teamwork, like the Warthog. I know that's probably the exact think that most people hate about it but, that's what I think. Maybe a turret gunner like in the b-17. I think Bungie perfectly balanced it with its' maps, such as Spire. In the end I think that what these images show us is likely to be changed beyond recognition in the game, if they appear there at all. whatever vehicle design 343i goes with will have to work well with its maps. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 19:56, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

:Good point.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:29, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

I will confirm it on all difficulties along with mythic.--[[User:Lian 512|Lian 512]] ([[User talk:Lian 512|talk]]) 21:07, 18 March 2013 (EDT)

== Spartan Ops Query ==

During a Spartan Ops session, a few friends of mine got into a rather heated debate about whether or not dying in-game would reduce the overall amount of experience you earned at the end. Since we couldn't figure it out, I decided to ask for an outside opinion on the issue.{{Unsigned|76.212.202.32}}

== Dawn's redesign ==

It's defintely a downgrade. To call it shit is too strong a word, as it's still mostly Halo, but everything 343 added or changed made the game worse. I'm hoping for some positive change, and we might be heading in the right direction, but they need to go faster.