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Recently, the idea of a system to encourage more active involvement in articles in need of attention was brought to light in [[Forum:Feedback for wiki improvement|this forum thread]]. I've had plans for something like this for a while now (~4 years) and felt the concept required a tad of explanation and possibly additional brainstorming to develop it further, if necessary. [[User:Subtank|Subtank]] and [[User:Tuckerscreator|Tuckerscreator]] suggested a banner or notice with pages linked via a specific category, which is a good idea, though what I've had in mind for a while is maybe a tad more ambitious and extensive. | Recently, the idea of a system to encourage more active involvement in articles in need of attention was brought to light in [[Forum:Feedback for wiki improvement|this forum thread]]. I've had plans for something like this for a while now (~4 years) and felt the concept required a tad of explanation and possibly additional brainstorming to develop it further, if necessary. [[User:Subtank|Subtank]] and [[User:Tuckerscreator|Tuckerscreator]] suggested a banner or notice with pages linked via a specific category, which is a good idea, though what I've had in mind for a while is maybe a tad more ambitious and extensive. | ||
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Woot! Bring it on.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span> | Woot! Bring it on.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 03:41, 24 February 2014 (EST) | ||
This is an excellent idea to help improve our content. Perhaps to attract traffic to it, maybe create a module to be placed on the [[Main Page]] or the [[Halopedia:Community|Community Portal]], similar to the Featured Article module that randomizes the articles needing work? As for naming, how about Articles for Improvement?--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:02, 24 February 2014 (EST) | This is an excellent idea to help improve our content. Perhaps to attract traffic to it, maybe create a module to be placed on the [[Main Page]] or the [[Halopedia:Community|Community Portal]], similar to the Featured Article module that randomizes the articles needing work? As for naming, how about Articles for Improvement?--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:02, 24 February 2014 (EST) | ||
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:Agreed as well. This a great replacement for the barely helpful and dreaded "Need of Revision" template. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:38, 26 February 2014 (EST) | :Agreed as well. This a great replacement for the barely helpful and dreaded "Need of Revision" template. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:38, 26 February 2014 (EST) | ||
So I've made [[User:Spartacus/Sandbox|this]]. Currently the articles listed are randomized. It informs the reader on what aspect of the article requires improvement, as well as reminding them to follow the ''Manual of Style'' and ''Layout | So I've made [[User:Spartacus/Sandbox|this]]. Currently the articles listed are randomized. It informs the reader on what aspect of the article requires improvement, as well as reminding them to follow the ''Manual of Style'' and ''Layout guide'' while doing so.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 12:07, 28 February 2014 (EST) | ||
:Great! A question to the more code-savvy: would it be possible to have a notice template (cf. New Content, Cleanup) where you could type in the summary of what sort of improvement that page needs, and make it so that the summary would also automatically be placed into the applet linked above and even on the project page? Would be more handy if we didn't need to manually copy the summary in three different places and could just add or remove pages via a template. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:19, 3 March 2014 (EST) | :Great! A question to the more code-savvy: would it be possible to have a notice template (cf. New Content, Cleanup) where you could type in the summary of what sort of improvement that page needs, and make it so that the summary would also automatically be placed into the applet linked above and even on the project page? Would be more handy if we didn't need to manually copy the summary in three different places and could just add or remove pages via a template. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:19, 3 March 2014 (EST) | ||
::It is possible. I'll see what I can do. :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:55, 6 March 2014 (EST) | |||
I think I'm seeing a lot of changes now. Every time I make an edit, a little box pops up, telling me my edit was saved. I think I remember seeing this back when I used to help out on Halo Nation. Either that, or it's because I'm using a newer (?) version of Google Chrome, which I think is unlikely. I like it. Keep it coming! --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 13:06, 1 March 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330 | I think I'm seeing a lot of changes now. Every time I make an edit, a little box pops up, telling me my edit was saved. I think I remember seeing this back when I used to help out on Halo Nation. Either that, or it's because I'm using a newer (?) version of Google Chrome, which I think is unlikely. I like it. Keep it coming! --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 13:06, 1 March 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330 | ||
:Right, I'll place it in the Community Portal for now. Not a good place for it on the Main Page at the moment. As for the template, I don't see why not. ''@Xamikaze'' - Update to the interface, you'll see the same thing on Wikipedia if you ever happen to edit there.-{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:43, 3 March 2014 (EST) | |||
::Looks like Porple updated the mediawiki recently. Yay for update! — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:55, 6 March 2014 (EST) | |||
That's quite a good proposal there! I've updated our [[Project:Projects|Projects page]] and added [[Project:Projects/Improvement|the project page]]. All that's needed is the content including a brief overview, mission and objectives, and guidelines.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:55, 6 March 2014 (EST) | |||
:In doing so, I'm assuming that we'll retire the Cleanup and References cleanup? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:57, 6 March 2014 (EST) | |||
::I wouldn't say we should get rid of the old templates - since this project is (in its present form) focused on a select batch of articles at a time, it still leaves plenty of other pages in need references and cleanup. Since said other pages total in the hundreds, the old notice templates are more manageable until—unless— the articles in question are picked to the project's "articles for improvement" queue. As for the actual project page, I've been working on it (mostly based on the above proposal), but I've kept it somewhat open so far in hopes of a more fluid and perhaps semi-automated info distribution system (as said in my above comment) and possibly other improvements people might point out. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 13:12, 6 March 2014 (EST) | |||
:::Righty. I think such system is doable but I would need to experiment for a while. If this experiment doesn't go well, then we would need to put the automated task to a bot. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 13:19, 6 March 2014 (EST) | |||
::::So, I experimented with some scripting but I can't seem to get the exact results. Given my limited scripting knowledge, I guess we would have to resort to manual work. Sorry. :( — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:27, 7 March 2014 (EST) | |||
[[Halopedia:Projects/Improvement|It has begun]]. I decided to go biweekly (or one and a half weeks in the case of the current list) instead of weekly since I see it as a more realistic timescale for this sort of thing. To compensate, I increased the number of articles from five to eight, partially also to allow the inclusion of all members of Kilo-Five which I see as requiring special attention, being pseudo-main characters of a recent work. But as I said in the primer, we'll see how this starts out and then potentially experiment with the schedule and article numbers in the following weeks. I also omitted the categorization thing as I felt it didn't really add anything to the whole. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:23, 23 April 2014 (EDT) | |||