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I thought only the [[master chief]] was the only [[Spartan]] to get the upgrade to there neural interface. | I thought only the [[John-117|master chief]] was the only [[SPARTAN-II Program|Spartan]] to get the upgrade to there neural interface. | ||
-[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] | --[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 18:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | ||
:He's the only one mentioned as having a specialized neural interface. It has never been mentioned with any of the other AIs, one way or another. Considering the capabilities each spartan had with the upgrade, i would imagine it is possible that every one of them had the upgrade. It can't be known for sure, yet, though. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Cortana had to choose a spartan to carry her around in there head and choosen John so i don't think the others can have an A.I. in there head.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 20:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::I think the upgrade was given too help control the new Mjolnir armor's abilities not just for the AI and it does mention the other spartans having the Mark 5 in Halo: First strike, it may have been planed that all spartans would have an AI eventualy. They might in future Books -[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 21:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::just becuase they hace the mark V doesn't mean there Neural Interface has been modified.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 22:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::The Mark V armor was designed with AI capability as one of the most important upgrades. I would imagine they needed at least some upgrade to their neural lace. I have a feeling that the Master Chief might not appear in Ghosts of Onyx, and Fred will be the main protagonist. If that is the case, they may very well put an AI, like Deja, into his suit. Still, I see your point. If you want to, change it to say that only John has been officially confirmed as having the implant, but that it is possible that the other spartans got it as well. -[[User:ED|ED]] 02:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
Why would he want deja in his head it's a dumb ai?--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
The Chief was given the upgrade due to Cortana. They gave him to her for that mission but she kinda became his sidekick. He needed that in order to carry Cortana around. The other Spartans didn't need it as they weren't going to be carrying AI's. They didn't need them. They just needed Cortana as she was created specialy for what they were going to do. After Halo I think Cortana was reassinged to act as the Cairo's AI but rejoined the Chief to stop the bomb and decided to become his sidekick again.---- | |||
== Mark IV? == | |||
If the Mark V (5)(2552) was the first kit to include this neural interface, how was the Mark IV (4)(2524-25) controlled? Consider editing. | |||
:You make a slight movement, and the suit suit reacts and moves too. The Mark IV was 2525-'52, not '24-'25.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 18:37, November 13, 2009 (UTC) | |||
::The only difference between a standard neural interface and an upgraded spartan neural interface is that it facilitates AI usage. If movement is indeed controlled by an NI (and I'm pretty sure that it has ''some'' part in it), than any of the MJOLNIRs would have been controlled by the old neural interface just as easily as the upgraded one.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 01:38, August 12, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Spartan Black == | |||
Didn't the Spatans in Halo Bloodlines use their A.I through their suits? So MC is no longer the only one and it can be much more heavily inferred that all Spartans got the special interface upgrade. I don't have the comics for reference. [[User talk:Classius|Classius]] 00:25, August 12, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Appearances == | |||
Should we put all the games in which the Master Chief appears as appearances of this neural interface? --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:35, 16 February 2014 (EST) | |||
:It's a borderline case. According to the [[Halopedia:Layout guide#Appearance lists|guidelines]] a subject should only be considered to "appear" in sources where it's actually seen or specifically mentioned. Then again, the neural interface does implicitly appear in the games by virtue of the Chief uploading Cortana through it, so I would say yes. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 23:17, 16 February 2014 (EST) | |||
::As the List of appearances guy, I also say yes. Though I can't remember if it's mentioned in First Strike or the Kilo Five Trilogy. So if anyone remembers or is willing to flip through those for confirmation that would be great.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 23:45, 16 February 2014 (EST) | |||
== Jerome in HW2 == | |||
Hang on just a second.. Jerome isn't actually shown slotting Isabel into his helmet until they're aboard the Enduring Conviction. His armor at the very least had to receive the update for an AI housing after he met her. This is also evidenced by the fact that she says "I've never had Spartan ringside seats before" once they're together on that ship. She also doesn't say anything while they're being taken apart by Atriox and has to ask what is happening while they're driving away from Henry Lamb research outpost.[[User:Japeth555|Japeth555]] ([[User talk:Japeth555|talk]]) 06:56, 23 February 2017 (EST)Japeth555 | |||
:Agreed. I actually don't think there's proof that they're neurally linked at any point in the campaign; Isabel rides in his armor, but whether she's actually in his head isn't commented on that I can tell, unless you interpret the "ringside seats" comment as that. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 08:40, 23 February 2017 (EST) |
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I thought only the master chief was the only Spartan to get the upgrade to there neural interface. --Ryanngreenday 18:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- He's the only one mentioned as having a specialized neural interface. It has never been mentioned with any of the other AIs, one way or another. Considering the capabilities each spartan had with the upgrade, i would imagine it is possible that every one of them had the upgrade. It can't be known for sure, yet, though. -ED 19:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- Cortana had to choose a spartan to carry her around in there head and choosen John so i don't think the others can have an A.I. in there head.--Ryanngreenday 20:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I think the upgrade was given too help control the new Mjolnir armor's abilities not just for the AI and it does mention the other spartans having the Mark 5 in Halo: First strike, it may have been planed that all spartans would have an AI eventualy. They might in future Books -Climax Viod 21:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- just becuase they hace the mark V doesn't mean there Neural Interface has been modified.--Ryanngreenday 22:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- The Mark V armor was designed with AI capability as one of the most important upgrades. I would imagine they needed at least some upgrade to their neural lace. I have a feeling that the Master Chief might not appear in Ghosts of Onyx, and Fred will be the main protagonist. If that is the case, they may very well put an AI, like Deja, into his suit. Still, I see your point. If you want to, change it to say that only John has been officially confirmed as having the implant, but that it is possible that the other spartans got it as well. -ED 02:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- just becuase they hace the mark V doesn't mean there Neural Interface has been modified.--Ryanngreenday 22:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I think the upgrade was given too help control the new Mjolnir armor's abilities not just for the AI and it does mention the other spartans having the Mark 5 in Halo: First strike, it may have been planed that all spartans would have an AI eventualy. They might in future Books -Climax Viod 21:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- Cortana had to choose a spartan to carry her around in there head and choosen John so i don't think the others can have an A.I. in there head.--Ryanngreenday 20:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Why would he want deja in his head it's a dumb ai?--Ryanngreenday 19:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
The Chief was given the upgrade due to Cortana. They gave him to her for that mission but she kinda became his sidekick. He needed that in order to carry Cortana around. The other Spartans didn't need it as they weren't going to be carrying AI's. They didn't need them. They just needed Cortana as she was created specialy for what they were going to do. After Halo I think Cortana was reassinged to act as the Cairo's AI but rejoined the Chief to stop the bomb and decided to become his sidekick again.----
Mark IV?[edit]
If the Mark V (5)(2552) was the first kit to include this neural interface, how was the Mark IV (4)(2524-25) controlled? Consider editing.
- You make a slight movement, and the suit suit reacts and moves too. The Mark IV was 2525-'52, not '24-'25.-- Forerunner 18:37, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
- The only difference between a standard neural interface and an upgraded spartan neural interface is that it facilitates AI usage. If movement is indeed controlled by an NI (and I'm pretty sure that it has some part in it), than any of the MJOLNIRs would have been controlled by the old neural interface just as easily as the upgraded one.--Nerfherder1428 01:38, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
Spartan Black[edit]
Didn't the Spatans in Halo Bloodlines use their A.I through their suits? So MC is no longer the only one and it can be much more heavily inferred that all Spartans got the special interface upgrade. I don't have the comics for reference. Classius 00:25, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
Appearances[edit]
Should we put all the games in which the Master Chief appears as appearances of this neural interface? --Weeping Angel (talk) 22:35, 16 February 2014 (EST)
- It's a borderline case. According to the guidelines a subject should only be considered to "appear" in sources where it's actually seen or specifically mentioned. Then again, the neural interface does implicitly appear in the games by virtue of the Chief uploading Cortana through it, so I would say yes. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 23:17, 16 February 2014 (EST)
- As the List of appearances guy, I also say yes. Though I can't remember if it's mentioned in First Strike or the Kilo Five Trilogy. So if anyone remembers or is willing to flip through those for confirmation that would be great.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 23:45, 16 February 2014 (EST)
Jerome in HW2[edit]
Hang on just a second.. Jerome isn't actually shown slotting Isabel into his helmet until they're aboard the Enduring Conviction. His armor at the very least had to receive the update for an AI housing after he met her. This is also evidenced by the fact that she says "I've never had Spartan ringside seats before" once they're together on that ship. She also doesn't say anything while they're being taken apart by Atriox and has to ask what is happening while they're driving away from Henry Lamb research outpost.Japeth555 (talk) 06:56, 23 February 2017 (EST)Japeth555
- Agreed. I actually don't think there's proof that they're neurally linked at any point in the campaign; Isabel rides in his armor, but whether she's actually in his head isn't commented on that I can tell, unless you interpret the "ringside seats" comment as that. --Jugus (talk) 08:40, 23 February 2017 (EST)