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===Support (7/3)=== | ===Support (7/3)=== | ||
#{{Support}} - Per my statement above. -- | #{{Support}} - Per my statement above. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 00:46, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Support}} - As per General. - | #{{Support}} - As per General. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 15:37, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Support}} - As per General. [[User talk:Kronos101|Kronos101]] 17:39, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Support}} - As per General. [[User talk:Kronos101|Kronos101]] 17:39, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Support}} - As per General.--[[User talk:NoobSlayer757|NoobSlayer757]] 04:47, April 5, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Support}} - As per General.--[[User talk:NoobSlayer757|NoobSlayer757]] 04:47, April 5, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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===Oppose (13/2)=== | ===Oppose (13/2)=== | ||
#{{Oppose}} No. Once we get more information, it would make sense to have it's own page. Besides, it would get too jumbled with other infromation. --[[User talk:Chris-015|Chris-015]] 00:49, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Oppose}} No. Once we get more information, it would make sense to have it's own page. Besides, it would get too jumbled with other infromation. --[[User talk:Chris-015|Chris-015]] 00:49, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:But the other pages need pages as well, right? It wouldn't make sense for one ability to have its own page. It would be harder to navigate and more messy in its own sense.-- | #:But the other pages need pages as well, right? It wouldn't make sense for one ability to have its own page. It would be harder to navigate and more messy in its own sense.--<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 00:53, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#::This page could get a more detailed description (E.G Tactics, Trivia, ect) instead of cluttering the armour abilities page. [[User talk:MowatMan|MowatMan]] 12:50, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #::This page could get a more detailed description (E.G Tactics, Trivia, ect) instead of cluttering the armour abilities page. [[User talk:MowatMan|MowatMan]] 12:50, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:::Take a look at [[McFarlane Toys/Series 1|this page]]. Does it look cluttered at all? No. And, as a bonus, it has a lot of detailed descriptions, with all the figures on one page, without the need of their own page. -- | #:::Take a look at [[McFarlane Toys/Series 1|this page]]. Does it look cluttered at all? No. And, as a bonus, it has a lot of detailed descriptions, with all the figures on one page, without the need of their own page. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 15:53, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} - Equipment in Halo 3 get there own pages, so should armor abilities in Reach. - [[User:ShadowBroker44|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New;font-size:10pt;color:white;">''' ''S.B.44'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ShadowBroker44|<span style="color:black;">[T]</span></sup>]] 16:48, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Oppose}} - Equipment in Halo 3 get there own pages, so should armor abilities in Reach. - [[User:ShadowBroker44|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New;font-size:10pt;color:white;">''' ''S.B.44'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ShadowBroker44|<span style="color:black;">[T]</span></sup>]] 16:48, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:The difference is, every Equipment there is in ''Halo 3'' has its own page. Yet for the Armor Abilities, we would only have one page, for one ability out of a total of five. Additionally, most of the abilities would have pretty sad pages. Take the ''Sprint'' ability and put it in its own page. What do you put in there? -- | #:The difference is, every Equipment there is in ''Halo 3'' has its own page. Yet for the Armor Abilities, we would only have one page, for one ability out of a total of five. Additionally, most of the abilities would have pretty sad pages. Take the ''Sprint'' ability and put it in its own page. What do you put in there? --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 17:22, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} Why shouldn't Armor Lock get it's own page? Consolidating all the armor abilities simply to make things easier to navigate is a slippery slope argument. For example, if that's the case then we should merge active camouflage (it's own armor ability, by the way), over shield, and the other power-ups just to make things more easily navigable. Currently the jet pack has it's own page, but I don't see the same suggestion there as I do here; why are we holding Armor Lock to a different standard? No, it makes more sense to give armor abilities that [[Halopedia: | #{{Oppose}} Why shouldn't Armor Lock get it's own page? Consolidating all the armor abilities simply to make things easier to navigate is a slippery slope argument. For example, if that's the case then we should merge active camouflage (it's own armor ability, by the way), over shield, and the other power-ups just to make things more easily navigable. Currently the jet pack has it's own page, but I don't see the same suggestion there as I do here; why are we holding Armor Lock to a different standard? No, it makes more sense to give armor abilities that [[Halopedia:Notability policy|warrant it]] their own pages, and Armor Lock is one of them. It clearly will have significant coverage in ''Halo: Reach'' and as such have an extremely reliable source for references we can base the article on; and clearly doesn't fit well in any of the What Halopedia is not categories, and the closest would be "Halopedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". However, Armor Lock would have much more information available to be included in it than the example provided of '''Saturn'''. In addition, if the pages are merged I believe we'll find shortly after ''Reach'' is released that it will be more convenient to navigate if certain abilities have their own pages. Either way, we'll just have to wait and see. -- [[User talk:Lord Hyren|Lord Hyren]] 18:55, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:A merge is being suggested because none of the other Armour Abilities have their own pages, and that there's not enough info as it is to denote its own page. And the jetpack article is about the jetpack itself, not the actual ability. - | #:A merge is being suggested because none of the other Armour Abilities have their own pages, and that there's not enough info as it is to denote its own page. And the jetpack article is about the jetpack itself, not the actual ability. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 19:16, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#::I realize that, but what if '''Armor Lock''' is something similar to the jet-pack in its background? For all we know on release-date there'll be a small paragraph explaining the origin of each ability is tantamount to the different subscripts for the armor permutations in ''Halo 3''. -- [[User talk:Lord Hyren|Lord Hyren]] 04:17, April 6, 2010 (UTC) | #::I realize that, but what if '''Armor Lock''' is something similar to the jet-pack in its background? For all we know on release-date there'll be a small paragraph explaining the origin of each ability is tantamount to the different subscripts for the armor permutations in ''Halo 3''. -- [[User talk:Lord Hyren|Lord Hyren]] 04:17, April 6, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:::Armor Lock is an ability. It is most likely activated by some contraption within the MJOLNIR armour. With that said, we should have an article about that contraption instead of the armour ability. That is what General5_7 is trying to convey. That is also why the Jetpack is awarded its own article because it is about the device that provides the ability, not the ability itself.[[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">{insert name</span>]] [[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">here}</span>]] 01:41, April 15, 2010 (UTC) | #:::Armor Lock is an ability. It is most likely activated by some contraption within the MJOLNIR armour. With that said, we should have an article about that contraption instead of the armour ability. That is what General5_7 is trying to convey. That is also why the Jetpack is awarded its own article because it is about the device that provides the ability, not the ability itself.[[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">{insert name</span>]] [[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">here}</span>]] 01:41, April 15, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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#:No.[[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">{insert name</span>]] [[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">here}</span>]] 01:41, April 15, 2010 (UTC) | #:No.[[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">{insert name</span>]] [[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">here}</span>]] 01:41, April 15, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} As per EchostreamFanJosh --[[User:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Staff Sergeant]] Darrell Mac, [[UNSC Air Force]] 05:37, April 6, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Oppose}} As per EchostreamFanJosh --[[User:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Staff Sergeant]] Darrell Mac, [[UNSC Air Force]] 05:37, April 6, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} - As stated before previous equipment has all gained its own page. When more information on the abilities comes to light it will be more prevalent to have pages for all the Armor Abilities, specifically this ability and the Jet Pack ability.--[[ | #{{Oppose}} - As stated before previous equipment has all gained its own page. When more information on the abilities comes to light it will be more prevalent to have pages for all the Armor Abilities, specifically this ability and the Jet Pack ability.--[[wikia:templarsoftwilight:user:Kahn iceay|Kahn Iceay]] 22:13, April 17, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} - There are many articles that are just as needed to be merged with another page but they are left lying. {{ | #{{Oppose}} - There are many articles that are just as needed to be merged with another page but they are left lying. {{User:Cally99117/Sig|20:58, April 27, 2010 (UTC)}} | ||
#{{Oppose}} - If you merge it with the main armor abilities page, it will get too crowded. I think we should wait ''at least'' until the halo reach beta comes out, when more information is given to the halo community. [[User talk:TickToXsiK|TickToXsiK]] 20:35, April 27, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Oppose}} - If you merge it with the main armor abilities page, it will get too crowded. I think we should wait ''at least'' until the halo reach beta comes out, when more information is given to the halo community. [[User talk:TickToXsiK|TickToXsiK]] 20:35, April 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:How are they getting crowded? If this were to be its own article, it will be attracting more abuse than improvements.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 15:58, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | #:How are they getting crowded? If this were to be its own article, it will be attracting more abuse than improvements.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 15:58, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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#{{Oppose}} - I feel this article should not be merged, because all Halo 3 equipment have a page, as EchostreamFanJosh said. Also, if it were to be merged, it would be left as a couple sentences on the Armor abilities page, which does not give the reader sufficient information. To be honest, I'm partial to this page, as Armor Lock is my favorite armor ability (:D) and I tried to make an advantages/disadvantages section, but I guess it wasn't felt to be important. But this page is still informative, and I say that it's a valuable asset to Halopedia. Sorry to seem a bit better :\ -[[User:Chibidude|Chibidude]] | #{{Oppose}} - I feel this article should not be merged, because all Halo 3 equipment have a page, as EchostreamFanJosh said. Also, if it were to be merged, it would be left as a couple sentences on the Armor abilities page, which does not give the reader sufficient information. To be honest, I'm partial to this page, as Armor Lock is my favorite armor ability (:D) and I tried to make an advantages/disadvantages section, but I guess it wasn't felt to be important. But this page is still informative, and I say that it's a valuable asset to Halopedia. Sorry to seem a bit better :\ -[[User:Chibidude|Chibidude]] | ||
#:The Armor Abilities can be expanded with each section/sub-section dedicated to the armor abilities. Case in point; focus on quality than quantity.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 15:58, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | #:The Armor Abilities can be expanded with each section/sub-section dedicated to the armor abilities. Case in point; focus on quality than quantity.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 15:58, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#::Subtank stop trying to merge articles that are not even complete yet and you don't have any sufficient evidence. {{ | #::Subtank stop trying to merge articles that are not even complete yet and you don't have any sufficient evidence. {{User:Cally99117/Sig|17:59, 5 May, 2010}} | ||
#:::How about "stop making articles that are not even complete yet"? ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 17:02, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | #:::How about "stop making articles that are not even complete yet"? ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 17:02, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#::::Or "stop trying to merge articles that need more information that has to stay as an article"? ;-) {{User:Cally99117/Sig|17:45, May 14, 2010}} | #::::Or "stop trying to merge articles that need more information that has to stay as an article"? ;-) {{User:Cally99117/Sig|17:45, May 14, 2010}} | ||
#{{Oppose}} - No, no, this is getting ridiculous. Absolutely not. | #{{Oppose}} - No, no, this is getting ridiculous. Absolutely not. [[User:Kougermasters|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Kougermasters'''</span>]] [[User talk:Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 14:38, May 6, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} - After reading the votes and responses and taking some time to think about it, I've decided to oppose. The truth of the matter is, that this is a different situation than all the other armor abilities. Basically repeating what Jugus and Lord Hyren have stated, this article is a potential for expanding. While I agree that virtually all the other ''Reach'' armor abilities are rather small for their own article, this one, in my opinion, has a few big differences. As messy as it currently looks, it is nowhere near as small as other abilities such as the simple [[Armor_Abilities#Active_Camo|"Active Camo"]]. As I look at the article, I see a fair amount of info as it is; there's no reason that it cannot evolve further given time for more information released. This also goes for all of the Reach abilities. To simplify my statement: wait longer for more facts/info/etc on it. If we conclude that it doesn't need its own article, merge it. If not, don't merge. But for the time being, as we already have the article, leave it as is. Better to kill two birds with one stone instead of performing the same action twice. - | #{{Oppose}} - After reading the votes and responses and taking some time to think about it, I've decided to oppose. The truth of the matter is, that this is a different situation than all the other armor abilities. Basically repeating what Jugus and Lord Hyren have stated, this article is a potential for expanding. While I agree that virtually all the other ''Reach'' armor abilities are rather small for their own article, this one, in my opinion, has a few big differences. As messy as it currently looks, it is nowhere near as small as other abilities such as the simple [[Armor_Abilities#Active_Camo|"Active Camo"]]. As I look at the article, I see a fair amount of info as it is; there's no reason that it cannot evolve further given time for more information released. This also goes for all of the Reach abilities. To simplify my statement: wait longer for more facts/info/etc on it. If we conclude that it doesn't need its own article, merge it. If not, don't merge. But for the time being, as we already have the article, leave it as is. Better to kill two birds with one stone instead of performing the same action twice. - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 19:03, May 6, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{Clear}} | {{Clear}} | ||
#<s>{{Oppose}} - as per EchostreamFanJosh [[Special:Contributions/76.211.2.221|76.211.2.221]] 01:27, April 15, 2010 (UTC)</s> | #<s>{{Oppose}} - as per EchostreamFanJosh [[Special:Contributions/76.211.2.221|76.211.2.221]] 01:27, April 15, 2010 (UTC)</s> | ||
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::::::Yeah, I realize that an external attachment and an armor-integrated shielding system are two different things; I may have been over-simplifying with that example. Like I said, let's just keep it this way for now, until we have more information. Still, we could have a page called "Armor Lock" that makes it clear that it's not only about the gameplay ability but describes the technology, both human and Covenant, in a manner similar to [[Active Camouflage]] or [[Energy Shields]]. It would be pointless to have separate articles for the Covenant and UNSC devices when the differences are purely cosmetic in nature. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:11, July 27, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::Yeah, I realize that an external attachment and an armor-integrated shielding system are two different things; I may have been over-simplifying with that example. Like I said, let's just keep it this way for now, until we have more information. Still, we could have a page called "Armor Lock" that makes it clear that it's not only about the gameplay ability but describes the technology, both human and Covenant, in a manner similar to [[Active Camouflage]] or [[Energy Shields]]. It would be pointless to have separate articles for the Covenant and UNSC devices when the differences are purely cosmetic in nature. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:11, July 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Referring to the above discussion, I think enough time has passed since the game's release for us to make conclusions based on what we know. Unlike I anticipated, we didn't really get that much information on the abilities in regard to the fiction. We do, however, know for a fact that the Covenant version of the attachment is noticeably different in appearance. We also know that the UNSC version is directly based on the Covenant equipment, as stated in the Official Strategy Guide. | |||
The question I'm going to address here is the issue of the name. As I've been told, it was decided by a group of fans that "Armor Lock" refers to the act of using the device, a piece of equipment whose real name is still unknown to us. However, I think it's time for us to reconsider this decision. This is because it was based on information months old, because it's entirely based on an assumption, and lastly, because we should strive to avoid having "unnamed" in article titles whenever possible. | |||
Now, on to the name. I know the use of the name "Armor Lock" was avoided because we don't want people making articles for each ability such as Sprint. I get that, and that's not the issue here. The issue is whether "Armor Lock" refers to the act of activating the shield or if it's a general name that can be applied to the device itself as well as its effect. I think it's reasonable to assume the latter is correct. I've used the analogy before, but let's look at the names for other pieces of equipment. First, Bubble Shield. The device itself is neither a bubble nor a shield, yet it's named after the effect it generates. If we applied the same logic as used in the Armor Lock debate to the Bubble Shield, we would have to call it "Unnamed bubble shield generator" or something like that. Not exactly convenient, right? Now, unlike Equipment, Armor Abilities are essentially add-ons installed to the MJOLNIR armor instead of separate items, but I think it's still reasonable enough to compare the two. The strategy guide quote I mentioned earlier also supports this theory, as it implies the name "Armor Lock" can be used to refer to the attachment itself. | |||
In conclusion, I think it's time for us to rethink the issue. The decision to use the current title was made long ago, without the information we now have. I think it would be reasonable to expand this article to cover the base concept of Armor Lock, both human and Covenant versions, not unlike active camo or energy shielding. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:59, 27 October 2010 (EDT) | |||
:In agreement with the above. That is why the Unnamed Jetpack Device was renamed to simply Jetpack; it's convenient and the title can be applied to the utility and the effect. I apologise for raising this statement again, but we should always remember that not all armor abilities deserve having their own articles; the best example would be an article about Sprint, which is redundant.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 11:29, 27 October 2010 (EDT) | |||
== Similarities? == | == Similarities? == | ||
I was playing the first Halo and noticed that there is a similar looking device on the back of the Mark V in the game. I am not suggesting they are the same, but maybe it's just a modified part? Just bringing it up to see what you guys think. [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 21:55, September 6, 2010 (UTC) | I was playing the first Halo and noticed that there is a similar looking device on the back of the Mark V in the game. I am not suggesting they are the same, but maybe it's just a modified part? Just bringing it up to see what you guys think. [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 21:55, September 6, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Not so invincible? == | |||
I was playing a custom game with a Spartan character and an Elite Character, when I put the elite in Armor Lock. Using the Spartan, I shot it in the head witha sniper, which killed it instantly. I tried again to see if it was just a once off, but it continued to happen. I tried 10 times, and each time, the elite died. Is this supposed to happen, or is it just a weird glitch? [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:Blue">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 17:13, 15 November 2010 (EST) | |||
:Since it happened more than once it is likely not a glitch.[[#@lof@n1234]] 11:25, 6 February 2011 (EST) | |||
Sometimes it happens, but who knows why. There's a clip from Achievement Hunter's "Fails of the Weak" where a guy goes into Armor Lock and his opponent kills him anyway with a beatdown. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 12:11, 6 February 2011 (EST) | |||