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==Untitled==
The media embargo has been lifted. --[[User talk:Halo face|Halo face]] 09:31, 5 March 2012 (EST)
The media embargo has been lifted. --[[User talk:Halo face|Halo face]] 09:31, 5 March 2012 (EST)


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The first sentence in Gamplay and design mentions that the last 2 installments in the reclaimer trilogy will be on the next generation console. I visited the source and it didn't mention that. Should that be deleted or was it confirmed somewhere else?
The first sentence in Gamplay and design mentions that the last 2 installments in the reclaimer trilogy will be on the next generation console. I visited the source and it didn't mention that. Should that be deleted or was it confirmed somewhere else?


:Thanks for pointing it out, I've removed it. If the information provided is unreferenced or the reference doesn't say anything of the kind, then it needs to be removed until someone can provide one. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:33, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:Thanks for pointing it out, I've removed it. If the information provided is unreferenced or the reference doesn't say anything of the kind, then it needs to be removed until someone can provide one. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:33, 6 March 2012 (EST)


== MA5 ==
== MA5 ==
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per above, seriously check these close-up images of Master Chief holding the BR. you started the edit-war and have no legitimate reason to undo my edits. [[User:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:18px;">HA</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:15px;">came</span>]] 17:05, 8 March 2012 (EST)
per above, seriously check these close-up images of Master Chief holding the BR. you started the edit-war and have no legitimate reason to undo my edits. [[User:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:18px;">HA</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:15px;">came</span>]] 17:05, 8 March 2012 (EST)
:{{Quote|This article is about an upcoming game. Editors must cite sources for all contributions to this article. Edits that do not follow this standard will be reverted without notice. For more information, see the [[Halopedia:Citation Policy|Citation Policy]].|Template at the top of the page.}}  
:{{Quote|This article is about an upcoming game. Editors must cite sources for all contributions to this article. Edits that do not follow this standard will be reverted without notice. For more information, see the [[Halopedia:Citation policy|Citation policy]].|Template at the top of the page.}}  
:Follow the rules and it will stay.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:Follow the rules and it will stay.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
::i've already provided the source. I don't know how to add it in since it appears weird in preview. since you started this stupid edit-war, you should add it in as you now know what the source is. learn to make proper edits. don't remove/undo legitimate edits.[[User:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:18px;">HA</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:15px;">came</span>]] 17:09, 8 March 2012 (EST)
::i've already provided the source. I don't know how to add it in since it appears weird in preview. since you started this stupid edit-war, you should add it in as you now know what the source is. learn to make proper edits. don't remove/undo legitimate edits.[[User:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:18px;">HA</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:15px;">came</span>]] 17:09, 8 March 2012 (EST)
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== Year ==
== Year ==


Since it was stated that the games takes place 5 years after the end of Halo 3 it would be approximately 2558 (2553 + 5 = 2558). So with that being said should the actual year of the game be added to the article somewhere and also added to the [[Halopedia:Timeline| Timeline]]? Or would it be best to wait till 343 states it's 2558? --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 10:07, 10 March 2012 (EST)
Since it was stated that the games takes place 5 years after the end of Halo 3 it would be approximately 2558 (2553 + 5 = 2558). So with that being said should the actual year of the game be added to the article somewhere and also added to the [[Halopedia:Projects/Timeline/Eras| Timeline]]? Or would it be best to wait till 343 states it's 2558? --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 10:07, 10 March 2012 (EST)
:Wait until 343i says so.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:Wait until 343i says so.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
Actually 343i stated that Cortana is 7 years old in Halo 4. She was "born" in 2549. This places the game in Fall 2556-2557, shortly or sometime after Origins.
Actually 343i stated that Cortana is 7 years old in Halo 4. She was "born" in 2549. This places the game in Fall 2556-2557, shortly or sometime after Origins.
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I went to GameStop today, and when I asked about preordering Halo 4, I was told that the release date was November 15, the 11th anniversary. I want to update the page, but wondered if anyone can confirm this first?--[[User talk:Sierra 109|Sierra 109]] 21:53, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
I went to GameStop today, and when I asked about preordering Halo 4, I was told that the release date was November 15, the 11th anniversary. I want to update the page, but wondered if anyone can confirm this first?--[[User talk:Sierra 109|Sierra 109]] 21:53, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
: *[[Talk:Halo_4/Archive#Release_Date|Points]]*.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 22:22 21 March 2012 (EST)
: *Points*.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 22:22 21 March 2012 (EST)
That would just be Gamestop pulling a date out of their asses, just like they do with every game.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 15:30, 25 March 2012 (EDT)
That would just be Gamestop pulling a date out of their asses, just like they do with every game.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 15:30, 25 March 2012 (EDT)


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Like what was said [[Talk:Halo_4#Note_to_all_editors|before]] please refrain from making unnecessary edits and edits without citations/references (proof as I call it) to this article. Also remember to use the preview function before saving the page. Yes I agree the, ''UNSC Infinity'' & ''Pelicans'' will probably/most likely be in the game based off the concept art but concept art does not constitute an appearance, just wait for 343 to state its in the game. We are anxious for more info on the game but seriously, have patience. Also understand the difference between "speculation" and "facts"- "''As well when looking closely at the images of the Master Chief in halo 4 it is noteable that both of the master chief's index fingers have no armor from the second knuckle to the tip of the finger. This would fit 343's attempt at a more functional suit of a may hint at the return of the duel wielding ability into Halo 4's gameplay''" is pure speculation, has no references, doesn't use proper grammer, and shouldn't be posted. Also if it doesn't need to be fixed, leave it alone. If you are not sure if something you want to post is okay to post, then ask here. Don't just post it, or else you might start an [[Talk:Halo_4#Edit_Conflict|Edit War]]! [[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 10:03, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
Like what was said [[Talk:Halo_4#Note_to_all_editors|before]] please refrain from making unnecessary edits and edits without citations/references (proof as I call it) to this article. Also remember to use the preview function before saving the page. Yes I agree the, ''UNSC Infinity'' & ''Pelicans'' will probably/most likely be in the game based off the concept art but concept art does not constitute an appearance, just wait for 343 to state its in the game. We are anxious for more info on the game but seriously, have patience. Also understand the difference between "speculation" and "facts"- "''As well when looking closely at the images of the Master Chief in halo 4 it is noteable that both of the master chief's index fingers have no armor from the second knuckle to the tip of the finger. This would fit 343's attempt at a more functional suit of a may hint at the return of the duel wielding ability into Halo 4's gameplay''" is pure speculation, has no references, doesn't use proper grammer, and shouldn't be posted. Also if it doesn't need to be fixed, leave it alone. If you are not sure if something you want to post is okay to post, then ask here. Don't just post it, or else you might start an [[Talk:Halo_4#Edit_Conflict|Edit War]]! [[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 10:03, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
:I'd like to say, even though the dual wielding comment is pure speculation (Spartans are obviously ambidextrous), the point about the finger armour being more functional is a good one, just some real life military gloves keep the trigger finger uncovered, it helps a lot. That said, I don't think it belongs on the Halo 4 page, but could be added to this armours page once we learn it's name. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 10:14, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
:I'd like to say, even though the dual wielding comment is pure speculation (Spartans are obviously ambidextrous), the point about the finger armour being more functional is a good one, just some real life military gloves keep the trigger finger uncovered, it helps a lot. That said, I don't think it belongs on the Halo 4 page, but could be added to this armours page once we learn it's name. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 10:14, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
::Any edits that are not cited '''will''' be reverted without notice. So please, cite your sources. If you do not know how to add references, please see the [[Halopedia:Citation Policy|Citation Policy]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:10 29 March 2012 (EST)
::Any edits that are not cited '''will''' be reverted without notice. So please, cite your sources. If you do not know how to add references, please see the [[Halopedia:Citation policy|Citation policy]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:10 29 March 2012 (EST)
:::Just to make note to reverters (those who revert edits without citation); if you know of a citation or know how to fix the edit, please do it in instead of reverting. Just because it's not cited doesn't mean the edit should be reverted; show some discretion.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 13:54, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Just to make note to reverters (those who revert edits without citation); if you know of a citation or know how to fix the edit, please do it in instead of reverting. Just because it's not cited doesn't mean the edit should be reverted; show some discretion.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 13:54, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
::::Yeah I take responsibility for that last revert (Like I got a choice). Didn't realize what the user was trying to do until ''Spartan331'' showed me. So I'll definitely take that into account next time. --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 14:38, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
::::Yeah I take responsibility for that last revert (Like I got a choice). Didn't realize what the user was trying to do until ''Spartan331'' showed me. So I'll definitely take that into account next time. --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 14:38, 29 March 2012 (EDT)
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I feel it would be a douchebag move on 343i's part to just say that the new armor is the Mark VI just redesigned. They've been very good with the canon and design so far, so why change it now? Of course it's possible Engineers mess around with his armor, I believe it's Mark VII. [[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
I feel it would be a douchebag move on 343i's part to just say that the new armor is the Mark VI just redesigned. They've been very good with the canon and design so far, so why change it now? Of course it's possible Engineers mess around with his armor, I believe it's Mark VII. [[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]


:Okay, I hate to harp on about it, but it's like saying the Mark IV on the cover of The Cole Protocol and the Mark IV in Halo Wars cannot possibly be the same armour. VARIANTS. Who says we saw all the Mark VI variants in Halo 3 multiplayer? And then, as I've said, there's the fact that Cortana's there with a lot of free time suddenly on her hands and half a ship to cannibalise for spare parts. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:31, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
:Okay, I hate to harp on about it, but it's like saying the Mark IV on the cover of The Cole Protocol and the Mark IV in Halo Wars cannot possibly be the same armour. VARIANTS. Who says we saw all the Mark VI variants in Halo 3 multiplayer? And then, as I've said, there's the fact that Cortana's there with a lot of free time suddenly on her hands and half a ship to cannibalise for spare parts. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:31, 3 April 2012 (EDT)


:I'd go with the Engineer theory. But then again, let's wait for more official explanations. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 07:37, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
:I'd go with the Engineer theory. But then again, let's wait for more official explanations. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 07:37, 3 April 2012 (EDT)


We don't know enough about it now.  Wait until we get definitive information before changing anything. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 10:22, 3 April 2012 (EDT)!
We don't know enough about it now.  Wait until we get definitive information before changing anything. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 10:22, 3 April 2012 (EDT)!
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But the Cole Protocol and Halo Wars Mark IV are variants of the Mark IV. Now I do have a theory on why they look different and it's based on information that's already been given out by 343i. [[User: ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
But the Cole Protocol and Halo Wars Mark IV are variants of the Mark IV. Now I do have a theory on why they look different and it's based on information that's already been given out by 343i. [[User: ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]


:You see? I'm already regretting this analogy. It was just meant to illustrate the fact that we don't know as much as we like to think about MJOLNIR, its development and variants, and that conclusively saying its Mark VI or VII is irrelevant until we get hard confirmation.-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:56, 4 April 2012 (EDT)
:You see? I'm already regretting this analogy. It was just meant to illustrate the fact that we don't know as much as we like to think about MJOLNIR, its development and variants, and that conclusively saying its Mark VI or VII is irrelevant until we get hard confirmation.-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:56, 4 April 2012 (EDT)


:They look different because they are drawn differently by different artists of different studios without any close supervision or close support from one another. You can conjure any theory you want but until all of these different stylised armours from different media appear in one media, any theory is simply redundant. Of course, don't let my comment stop you... it's simply to point out that it's wholly pointless... but fan theories are fun.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:06, 4 April 2012 (EDT)
:They look different because they are drawn differently by different artists of different studios without any close supervision or close support from one another. You can conjure any theory you want but until all of these different stylised armours from different media appear in one media, any theory is simply redundant. Of course, don't let my comment stop you... it's simply to point out that it's wholly pointless... but fan theories are fun.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:06, 4 April 2012 (EDT)
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Arright, this has bothered me since the people started freaking out over the armor those many months ago: what I can gather he meant by "less canonical explanation" is this: when the Cheif wakes up, he's wearing the Mk. VI, as could be expected. Aftermthe crash, Cortana shows him the Mk. VII, located on the Forward Unto Dawn, and basically says "happy birthday, John, here ya go!" That way, we know where he got it in general, but we don't have any "just came in from Songsam this morning" like in Halo 2. Soooo, yeah. That's what I think will happen. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 09:49, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
Arright, this has bothered me since the people started freaking out over the armor those many months ago: what I can gather he meant by "less canonical explanation" is this: when the Cheif wakes up, he's wearing the Mk. VI, as could be expected. Aftermthe crash, Cortana shows him the Mk. VII, located on the Forward Unto Dawn, and basically says "happy birthday, John, here ya go!" That way, we know where he got it in general, but we don't have any "just came in from Songsam this morning" like in Halo 2. Soooo, yeah. That's what I think will happen. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 09:49, 5 April 2012 (EDT)


:Problem is, why would there be a Mark VII on the Dawn? the Mark VII was given out in January 2553. If there is a Mark VII during the events of Halo 3, why didn't anyone offer it to the Chief? The Spartan-IVs seen in ''First Look'' are probably wearing the Mark VII, which is completely different from the one the Chief was wearing. The one Chief is wearing resembles the one in Halo 3. It's not Mark VII. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:29, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
:Problem is, why would there be a Mark VII on the Dawn? the Mark VII was given out in January 2553. If there is a Mark VII during the events of Halo 3, why didn't anyone offer it to the Chief? The Spartan-IVs seen in ''First Look'' are probably wearing the Mark VII, which is completely different from the one the Chief was wearing. The one Chief is wearing resembles the one in Halo 3. It's not Mark VII. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:29, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
::If you look [[File:Halo 4 Multiplayer (2).jpg|100px]], You'll see that the armors share a chestplate, undersuit details and the strange pseudo-codpeice that Cheif's new armor has. All I'm saying is that it's not so cut-and-dry that Cheif's wearing some kind of Mk VI.5. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 11:09, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
::If you look [[File:Halo 4 Multiplayer (2).jpg|100px]], You'll see that the armors share a chestplate, undersuit details and the strange pseudo-codpeice that Cheif's new armor has. All I'm saying is that it's not so cut-and-dry that Cheif's wearing some kind of Mk VI.5. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 11:09, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Good point. But still, why didn't anyone offer it to the Chief if it was on the ''Dawn''? Also, "Image into Articles 101: <nowiki>[[Insert File name here]]</nowiki> to show image." :) —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 11:25, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Good point. But still, why didn't anyone offer it to the Chief if it was on the ''Dawn''? Also, "Image into Articles 101: <nowiki>[[Insert File name here]]</nowiki> to show image." :) —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 11:25, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Canonically, it was always there, but would have been impractical to give him mid-combat. Non-canonically, it would be a retcon: even the concept of a Mk VII was nonexistent when Halo 3 was made, so it couldn't have been offered then anyway. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 11:30, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Canonically, it was always there, but would have been impractical to give him mid-combat. Non-canonically, it would be a retcon: even the concept of a Mk VII was nonexistent when Halo 3 was made, so it couldn't have been offered then anyway. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 11:30, 5 April 2012 (EDT)


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Hope yall like them and let the rage begin. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 21:01, 6 April 2012 (EDT)
Hope yall like them and let the rage begin. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 21:01, 6 April 2012 (EDT)


:[[Halopedia:Copyright_Policy#Scanned_Images|Scanned images, while common and actually widely accepted in web communities, doesn't mean it's legal]]. So, thank you for removing it. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 21:11, 6 April 2012 (EDT)
:[[Halopedia:Copyrights#Scanned_Images|Scanned images, while common and actually widely accepted in web communities, doesn't mean it's legal]]. So, thank you for removing it. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 21:11, 6 April 2012 (EDT)


Well then I'll just have to say what's in the new GI. Basically there's a new weapon called the "Assault Carbine." The Covenant Carbine is returning along with the Energy Sword. A bunch of regular UNSC weapons are returning such as Sniper, Rocket Launcher, etc. The new DMR is revealed and it looks very much different yet similar to it's Reach counterpart. IT does have a very unique looking scope. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 21:15, 6 April 2012 (EDT)
Well then I'll just have to say what's in the new GI. Basically there's a new weapon called the "Assault Carbine." The Covenant Carbine is returning along with the Energy Sword. A bunch of regular UNSC weapons are returning such as Sniper, Rocket Launcher, etc. The new DMR is revealed and it looks very much different yet similar to it's Reach counterpart. IT does have a very unique looking scope. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 21:15, 6 April 2012 (EDT)
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I meant to make it like the format of the [[Halo 3]] page. The same format is used on the ODST page. This formatting saves space. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 13:19, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
I meant to make it like the format of the [[Halo 3]] page. The same format is used on the ODST page. This formatting saves space. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 13:19, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:Then why did you post this here? You should have posted this on the proper talk page instead.--[[File:Gravemind.svg|20px]] '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 14:52, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:Then why did you post this here? You should have posted this on the proper talk page instead.-- '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 14:52, 8 April 2012 (EDT)


== Assault Carbine ==
== Assault Carbine ==
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It would be interesting to have an SMG-like thing and a full assault rifle like in Halo 3.[[User talk:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] 20:19, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
It would be interesting to have an SMG-like thing and a full assault rifle like in Halo 3.[[User talk:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] 20:19, 8 April 2012 (EDT)


:I was really surprised Bungie didn't include the M7S from ODST in Reach. I thought it was a nice balance between mid-range and high rate of fire that didn't render either the battle rifle or assault rifle obsolete - I would imagine any "assault carbine" would fill a similar role. If Dual Wielding isn't back, then the game would need some additions to its sandbox to balance out the Covenant weapons that can't be cut. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:14, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:I was really surprised Bungie didn't include the M7S from ODST in Reach. I thought it was a nice balance between mid-range and high rate of fire that didn't render either the battle rifle or assault rifle obsolete - I would imagine any "assault carbine" would fill a similar role. If Dual Wielding isn't back, then the game would need some additions to its sandbox to balance out the Covenant weapons that can't be cut. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:14, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::Did anyone ever consider it could basically be an automatic version of the covenant carbine, kinda like the plasma repeater, but without the suckiness? [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 22:23, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::Did anyone ever consider it could basically be an automatic version of the covenant carbine, kinda like the plasma repeater, but without the suckiness? [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 22:23, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Nah. Looks like a complete redesign of it. — [[User:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:18px;">HA</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:12px;">came</span>]]</sup> 22:31, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Nah. Looks like a complete redesign of it. — [[User:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:18px;">HA</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Hacame|<span class="plainlinks" style="color:#483C32; font-family:lucida console; font-size:12px;">came</span>]]</sup> 22:31, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
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:I think you put too much trust in journalists. Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the Forerunners will be involved in the immediate future, but they don't exactly cite their sources.
:I think you put too much trust in journalists. Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the Forerunners will be involved in the immediate future, but they don't exactly cite their sources.
:{{Quote|a '''tease''' that you'll finally run into some of the series' mythical Forerunners|emphasis added by mne.}}
:{{Quote|a '''tease''' that you'll finally run into some of the series' mythical Forerunners|emphasis added by mne.}}
:Hardly ''confirmation.'' -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:52, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
:Hardly ''confirmation.'' -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:52, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
So even though both Kiki Wolfkill and Josh Holmes along with several other 343i employees all posted this article on twitter doesn't mean anything? I think that's even more confirmation. They would probably say "well that's not true" or "not entirely true." Since they advertised it I'd say that it's official. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 13:36, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
So even though both Kiki Wolfkill and Josh Holmes along with several other 343i employees all posted this article on twitter doesn't mean anything? I think that's even more confirmation. They would probably say "well that's not true" or "not entirely true." Since they advertised it I'd say that it's official. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 13:36, 11 April 2012 (EDT)


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:Thanks for the info. To let you know, the article is currently protected due to some copyright violations, so even I can't edit it. Please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.-- '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 23:01, 11 April 2012 (EDT)


== Covenant Empire suggestion ==
== Covenant Empire suggestion ==
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This talk page is getting a little long, in fact its longer than the last one. Suggest it be archived (i.e. archive#2)??? Anyone, anybody agree?? --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 19:18, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
This talk page is getting a little long, in fact its longer than the last one. Suggest it be archived (i.e. archive#2)??? Anyone, anybody agree?? --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 19:18, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
:I agree, but I'd wait a day or two since there's a few active conversations.--[[File:Gravemind.svg|20px]] '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 19:24, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
:I agree, but I'd wait a day or two since there's a few active conversations.-- '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 19:24, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
::Kool! I'll wait but I don't have a choice anyway since I don't know how to do it. --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 19:31, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
::Kool! I'll wait but I don't have a choice anyway since I don't know how to do it. --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 19:31, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Don't worry, I know how to do it.--[[File:Gravemind.svg|20px]] '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 19:35, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Don't worry, I know how to do it.-- '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 19:35, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Whenever you do please copy & paste or recite [[Talk:Halo_4#Note_to_all_editors|Note to all editors]], [[Talk:Halo_4#Unnecessary_Edits.2F_Edits_Without_Citations|Unnecessary Edits]] onto the next discussion page, as well as ''Multi Edits'', especially MULTI EDITS; ''Someone'' seriously needs to study these badly and I think you know who I am talking about... I'll be sure to throw in my two cents. Thanks a milli! --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 21:03, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Whenever you do please copy & paste or recite [[Talk:Halo_4#Note_to_all_editors|Note to all editors]], [[Talk:Halo_4#Unnecessary_Edits.2F_Edits_Without_Citations|Unnecessary Edits]] onto the next discussion page, as well as ''Multi Edits'', especially MULTI EDITS; ''Someone'' seriously needs to study these badly and I think you know who I am talking about... I'll be sure to throw in my two cents. Thanks a milli! --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 21:03, 14 April 2012 (EDT)