Talk:Class-2 medium plasma mortar: Difference between revisions

Even if General5 7 gave you permission to recreate the article, this page needs to be merged with the plasma mortar article for two reasons: It has been confirmed to be a type of plasma mortar, but then someof you might say, "This subject is notable enough to warrant its own article.", however I might reply saying that because its name is unconfirmed and is called "plasma mortar" by Bungie, it should stay in the "plasma mortar" article until it gets an official name. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}

:I agree. It is definately subject to its own article, as it functions entirely different from a traditional Wraith Plasma Mortar. However, we don't know its official name, or even its common name. Nor do we even know the official name for the Revenant. Bungie seems a little lax in their canon reveals and focuses more on gameplay reveals in these last few months before release. So, I believe we'll get some of what we're looking for in the game manual. Anywho, even though it hasn't been named yet, that doesn't stop us from creating an article for it. It is a different weapon and deserves a different article. A more appropriate name would be "[Unspecified/Unknown/Unnamed] Plasma Mortar".--''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])</small>}'' 19:37, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

:::::I think we should make the Super Scarab an article because its power is a lot more different than the normal Scarab in which you said that this weapons power is also a lot different as you said above. If you read the update you will see that Bungie calls it "plasma mortar" and the weapon is not 100% different from the plasma mortar. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}

:Indeed. The weapon's completely different from the standard plasma mortar, and while it should be mentioned on the plasma mortar page, it deserves its own article just like Covenant Artillery (which is a heavier plasma mortar and notably, has its own page), or like The Unbalanced Warrior noted, every MA5 or M6 variant. Even if we have no official name for the weapon, everyone can clearly see it's nowhere near the same as the Wraith's cannon and as such, should not be merged. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) </small>

:I made a mistake when I thought they referred to "plasma mortar" but Bungie said "mortar". But if this subject gets an article then I suggest that the Super Scarab get its own article because it is '''a lot''' different from the ''normal'' Scarab and there is a lot of evidence that it was created using the ''possible'' [[Forerunner]] artefact (British spelling of "artifact") because the [[Covenant]] would have already built it if they hed the resources. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}

:::I would oppose such thing. There is not much information known about vehicle, or the mechanics of the weapon fired by all those vessels. In fact, I don't think they all satisfy the [[Halopedia:Notability policy|"significant coverage"]]). As such, it is easier to simply have them all in one article. True that ''"One could argue that "Type-47 UHAP" only refers to the Halo 3 Scarab"'', but the applied common word "Scarab" on all of these behemoths seems to suggest the designation does applies to all.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]^{([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])}</font> 09:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

::::It's true that all of the models are commonly called "Scarabs", but then again, things like the [[BR55 Battle Rifle]] and the [[BR55HB SR Battle Rifle]] are commonly only referred to as "battle rifles" even when they are obviously different models with different designations. To avoid this, we could always call th T47 UHAP article "Scarab" and mention that only the Halo 3 one has a confirmed official designation while the others are just referred to as "Scarabs". The same would apply to Type-25 Assault Gun Carriage and Type-26 Anti-Infantry Stationary Gun, which would be called "Wraith" and "Shade", respectively; it doesn't really make sense to apply the formal designation of the Halo 3 model to all of their iterations since the iterations in question are considerably different in appearance and function and we have no way to know for sure if the Halo 3 model's designation is applied to all of them. Obviously, the articles shouldn't be separated so that every different model would have its own article, but the name could be changed to describe the subject in general to avoid the assumption that all models have the same designation. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

#{{Oppose}} - The weapon is not a Wraith Plasma Mortar, it is entirely different. Bungie may have called it a "Plasma Mortar", but that is just a broad term used to describe the base type of weapon.--''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])</small>}'' 20:22, August 15, 2010 (UTC)