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If you look closely at the model of the Heavy Frigate you can see Archer Missile Pods similar to | If you look closely at the model of the Heavy Frigate you can see Archer Missile Pods similar to these, I think we should add these to the list of armaments despite the fact that we have not seen them in action.--[[User talk:Kaphraxus|Kaphraxus]] 18:56, January 7, 2011 (EST) | ||
I am going to go ahead and add Archer Missiles to the armaments section.--[[User talk:Kaphraxus|Kaphraxus]] 21:45, October 26, 2012 (EST) | I am going to go ahead and add Archer Missiles to the armaments section.--[[User talk:Kaphraxus|Kaphraxus]] 21:45, October 26, 2012 (EST) | ||
UNSC Grafton, UNSC Saratoga and UNSC Savannah's infoboxes all list 3 Shiva warheads amongst their armament (seemingly based on presumption), yet Paris-class infobox does not list 3 Shiva warheads. Add Shiva warheads to Paris-class infoxbox or deduct them from the aforementioned named ships' infoboxes? | UNSC Grafton, UNSC Saratoga and UNSC Savannah's infoboxes all list 3 Shiva warheads amongst their armament (seemingly based on presumption), yet Paris-class infobox does not list 3 Shiva warheads. Add Shiva warheads to Paris-class infoxbox or deduct them from the aforementioned named ships' infoboxes? | ||
Given a lack of response, I'll add it to the Paris-class. Makes sense, after all. | |||
I really don't understand what you are doing. Why are you adding stats to all Paris class ships based on the books, even though these do not in the slightest coincide with the visual models Bungie used in their games. The official Paris class carries more than 26 Archer pods, I mean just look at Savannah and COUNT. 10 5-pod groups, its 50 (4x5 on the bow sides, 4x5 on the bottom and 2x5 on the upper rear). And the Shivas? Where would it even carry those? Instead it has 12 silos behind the Rampart guns that are most likely something smaller, from what I've heard they are apparently called Harpoons. Please fix this. The Paris from the books is not at all the one we see in the games, especially | |||
considering that Reach came AFTER the books and that the class was originally considered to be called Stalwart before they swapped names. I'd at best note the current book stats somewhere along the sidelines, I mean | |||
they dont even fit. How do you get 26 pods if they are supposed to be arranged in 5-pod groups? And if it isnt referring to the individual pods but the groups, HOW DO YOU FIT 26 OF THEM (WITH THE CAPACITY TO FIRE 130 AT ONCE) on a frigate? Please just change this, give the Paris page 50 pods and remove the Shivas, same for all ships of class. One could also add "12 unidientified missile silos". The guns btw are most likely M910s since the | |||
M870s the other classes used did not have the encased turret. | |||
--[[User:Hakura 99|Hakura 99]] ([[User talk:Hakura 99|talk]]) 07:11, February 19, 2021 (EST) | |||
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:::The point defense guns on the 3D model are added or removed based on the resolution of the model and if it can save memory resources in the game. If all the point defense guns are loaded, the ''Paris''-class has 12. There's 3 on each side of the dorsal flanks and 2 each on the ventral side of the flanks. There's a dorsal and ventral facing aft between the engines. That equals 12. The ''Savannah'' is the only one to have them all loaded in game memory at once. The ''Grafton'' and ''Saratoga'' don't have the aft one loaded, nor the dorsal flanks, only the underside guns are there firing at the Covenant. The frigates outside the Anchor-9 multiplayer map only have upper flank ones on the side facing the station. The Earth-side point defense guns are not loaded into game memory. Similarly, the Covenant corvette has several of the mini point defense guns used on the Phantom Gunboat and the number varies with the difficulty setting. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 19:02, 7 June 2013 (EDT) | :::The point defense guns on the 3D model are added or removed based on the resolution of the model and if it can save memory resources in the game. If all the point defense guns are loaded, the ''Paris''-class has 12. There's 3 on each side of the dorsal flanks and 2 each on the ventral side of the flanks. There's a dorsal and ventral facing aft between the engines. That equals 12. The ''Savannah'' is the only one to have them all loaded in game memory at once. The ''Grafton'' and ''Saratoga'' don't have the aft one loaded, nor the dorsal flanks, only the underside guns are there firing at the Covenant. The frigates outside the Anchor-9 multiplayer map only have upper flank ones on the side facing the station. The Earth-side point defense guns are not loaded into game memory. Similarly, the Covenant corvette has several of the mini point defense guns used on the Phantom Gunboat and the number varies with the difficulty setting. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 19:02, 7 June 2013 (EDT) | ||
Hey I just changed the amount of point defense turrets on the page from 12 to 16. If you look at the picture third group down and two in your see on the Savannah a turret on the top back near the engines firing. https://www.halopedia.org/File:UNSC_Savannah_Firing.jpg Taking that you would have one under and two in the same place on the other engine, So 16 instead of 12. --[[User talk:Time Flex|Time Flex]] September 6, 2017 | |||
:Reverted this change. If you didn't read the post just above yours, it explains where the turrets are on the ''Savannah''. If there's any doubt of the number, it's an easy thing to load up Reach in theater mode and fly around the ''Savannah'' and make a count. That's what I did when I determined there were only 12. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 11:25, 7 September 2017 (EDT) | |||
::OK I see it now their's only four in total under the Hangers and two on the tail. --[[User talk:Time Flex|Time Flex]] 17:04, September 7, 2017 | |||