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{{Article | {{Article quote|The Internet Blacklist Legislation– known as PROTECT IP Act in the Senate and Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the House - is a threatening sequel to last year's COICA Internet censorship bill. Like its predecessor, this legislation invites Internet security risks, threatens online speech, and hampers Internet innovation. Urge your members of Congress to reject this Internet blacklist campaign in both its forms!}} | ||
<span class="plainlinks">[https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173 Send email to your representatives (US citizens only)]</span> | <span class="plainlinks">[https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173 Send email to your representatives (US citizens only)]</span> | ||
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{{Support}} - not that it's any of my business, not being a resident of the US (who am I kidding, this is going to have international consequences), but given [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=32008 Bungie's own recent announcement] that they too oppose it, it would be extremely appropriate. A ''total'' blackout does seem a bit much, but perhaps the logo on the main/landing page, and a small, unobtrusive but noticable icon linking to an anti-SOPA site on other pages? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[ | {{Support}} - not that it's any of my business, not being a resident of the US (who am I kidding, this is going to have international consequences), but given [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=32008 Bungie's own recent announcement] that they too oppose it, it would be extremely appropriate. A ''total'' blackout does seem a bit much, but perhaps the logo on the main/landing page, and a small, unobtrusive but noticable icon linking to an anti-SOPA site on other pages? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:42, 16 January 2012 (EST) | ||
{{Support}} — Not like I do jack shit around here anyways. :P {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | {{Support}} — Not like I do jack shit around here anyways. :P {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | ||
{{Support}} - Oh those wacky politicians. "Politics... How tiresome." — Prophet of Truth :P —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span> | {{Support}} - Oh those wacky politicians. "Politics... How tiresome." — Prophet of Truth :P —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 03:32, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ||
{{Support}} - 12 hour blackout or an anti-SOPA logo, I have no objections to either. - | {{Support}} - 12 hour blackout or an anti-SOPA logo, I have no objections to either. - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 09:53, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ||
{{Support}} - I posted my protesting of the SOPA and PIPA bill on Twitter, and I think I may do the same on Facebook, so no objections. Only that it may be a bit of a hassle for me, because working on Halopedia is all I really do since I don't have a job now, and I'll also have to set a timer so I know when to get back on. | {{Support}} - I posted my protesting of the SOPA and PIPA bill on Twitter, and I think I may do the same on Facebook, so no objections. Only that it may be a bit of a hassle for me, because working on Halopedia is all I really do since I don't have a job now, and I'll also have to set a timer so I know when to get back on. | ||
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{{Support}} -meh. | {{Support}} -meh. | ||
{{Support}} - I can't imagine a day when I didn't use a wikisite like Wikipedia, but this Anti-SOPA Campaign sounds like a damn good idea. - Endor240 | |||
{{Support}} - I have been vehemently opposed to the SOPA legislation since I first read about it. I too believe that a Wikipedia-esque blackout is in order. It would be a poignant act of defiance if nothing else. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 19:12, 17 January 2012 (EST) | {{Support}} - I have been vehemently opposed to the SOPA legislation since I first read about it. I too believe that a Wikipedia-esque blackout is in order. It would be a poignant act of defiance if nothing else. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 19:12, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ||
{{Support}} — Supporting anti-SOPA campaing internationally. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 19:26, 17 January 2012 (EST) | {{Support}} — Supporting anti-SOPA campaing internationally. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 19:26, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ||
{{Support}} - It's for the best.[[User talk:NemeanCerberus|NemeanCerberus]] 22:35, 17 January 2012 (EST) | |||
{{Support}} - This legislation will give the US government the ability to shut down any website for no real reason. I'm all for a black-out or any other course of action. This stupidity has to end. --[[User:Spartan-0093|<span style="color:green">Spartan-0093</span>]] ([[User talk:Spartan-0093|<span style="color:green">Comm Channel 0-93</span>]]) 23:03, 17 January 2012 (EST) | |||
{{Support}} - Let's fight this shit. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:21, 17 January 2012 (EST) | |||
{{Support}}- This is bullsh!t. [[User talk:Maginot Sphere|Maginot Sphere]] 09:25, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
{{Support}}- I hope those persons (SOPA supporter) will burn in hell.[[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="LimeGreen">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="RoyalBlue">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color="Salmon">0</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Chief frank 001|<font color="GreenYellow">1</font>]]</sup> 10:01, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
{{Support}}- Because it is UNACCEPTable a US law will have affect on people worldwide. A Dutchman like me will feel the effects as well. Even if I can't sign the US bills, I will sign the overseas ones and try my best to stop this.--[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 15:05, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
{{Support}}- Totally agree with you Thijsbos! Ga zo door!--[[User talk:Bdgroot-117|Bdgroot-117]] 15:46, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
{{Support}} Take down SOPA! Take Down SOPA!{{unsigned|Dalton1000000}} | |||
== Comments == | == Comments == | ||
Since there is no opposition to this idea, I would also suggest the [[ | Proof of the Cabal's existence revealed in this shocking photograph. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#800080">Dragon<font color="#DE397E">c</font>laws</font><sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#6600D8">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:28, 18 January 2012 (EST)]] | ||
Since there is no opposition to this idea, I would also suggest the [[wikia:uncyclopedia:Freedom of Expression|Uncyclopedia approach]]: apply a censor-style text decoration on popular contents (e.g. John-117, games articles, Covenant). SpecOps' suggestion is also one we need to apply. | |||
If possible, we should implement this by midnight (PST) or 8am those in GMT ±0.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:28, 17 January 2012 (EST) | If possible, we should implement this by midnight (PST) or 8am those in GMT ±0.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:28, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ||
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::Russian nation supports the freedom of the Internet. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 19:26, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ::Russian nation supports the freedom of the Internet. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 19:26, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ||
I will say two things - compared to actual socialist nations, or even centre-left nations like [[Wikipedia:New Zealand|my own]], the US seems unimaginably far-right, so please don't think this has anything to do with ''actual'' politics. This is your politicians caving to lobby groups who represent corporations who want to make as much profit as they can. As politicians always do, left or right. Secondly, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFhzsCdpBDI this video] sums up just why those corporations that support the bill are complete hypocrites. The guy is a bit... uh, enthusiastic, but it's a very good outline of specific and precise cases. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:17, 17 January 2012 (EST) | |||
:To put it politely: <big>'''DIE <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/sopa SOPA]</span>, DIE!!!</big> [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:22, 17 January 2012 (EST) | |||
::Echoing what SpecOps said, but this time from [[Wikipedia:Canada|up north]]. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:51, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
:::@Specops306: You would not believe how much lobbying there is in the United States. It's ridiculous.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | |||
Maybe some popular pages' images could be replaced with the one at right? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#800080">Dragon<font color="#DE397E">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#6600D8">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:28, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
:Strong {{support}} for DC's suggestion! Plus, I found [http://sopastrike.com/ this site], which may be of some interest to us. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:13, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
:By the way, ever wondered what does POPA mean? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B0 [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 10:11, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
::They're '''S'''OPA. As in Stop Online Piracy Act, and P'''I'''PA, as in Protect IP Act. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#800080">Dragon<font color="#DE397E">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#6600D8">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 11:29, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
::Okay.jpg [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 11:34, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
::Well, PIPA is not much better. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 11:38, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
:::[http://www.google.com/| Google has done the same].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | |||
::::Not sure why you put up that grotesque image here, PatrickRus. But anyway, I think I did ask in my SUPPORT comment about when is this blackout going to occur? At first I assumed that we would be doing it almost simultaneously with Wikipedia, but now I see that isn't the case. So now, I'd like to know (and I think we all could benefit from this) when the blackout will be put into effect. Times, dates, whatever. Enough talk already, when are we committing to this? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:48, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330 | |||
:::::It is impossible to implement a blackout in such short notice. As such, the campaign resorted to the other approach: censor the main page. Effective, I must say, given that several users in Waypoint actually noticed the change. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 18:23, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
:::Agreed with Xamikaze that the image is just disgusting, and comes under harmful or offensive content. Can someone please remove it? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:26, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
::::Thanks for agreeing with me, Specops306. And also, Subtank, I think I understand why we resorted to other measures instead. Certainly is effective, having to bring ones cursor over a link just to see what's under all that '''''black ink'''''... --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 18:35, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330 | |||
:::::I was making a pun about a surinam toad, but sorry, I though it would be shown as a link, not an image on the page. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 18:40, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::Yeah well that still could have been seen as offensive, so just refrain from doing so.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | |||
:::::::As you say, commander. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 18:46, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
::::Sorry for getting the name wrong, Xamikaze. Yes, as Tucker said in the edit history, I did confuse you with the title of an Orson Scott Card novel. In my defence, it was one of the good ones! -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:39, 18 January 2012 (EST) | |||
:::::Apology accepted. I have to agree with you about Xenocide, though by preference, I liked Ender's Game/Ender's War far better. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 21:31, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330 |
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From the Electronic Frontier Foundation:
“ | The Internet Blacklist Legislation– known as PROTECT IP Act in the Senate and Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the House - is a threatening sequel to last year's COICA Internet censorship bill. Like its predecessor, this legislation invites Internet security risks, threatens online speech, and hampers Internet innovation. Urge your members of Congress to reject this Internet blacklist campaign in both its forms! | ” |
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The campaign
So, Wikipedia has decided to go dark on Wednesday for 12 hours. Shall we follow suit?
It is unlikely that it will hurt the wiki's traffic, given that there is little update on the Halo franchise. Then again, our presence in the internet is fairly small compared to other sites, but some effort is better than no effort.
If a total blackout seems excessive, then maybe stick a giant Anti-SOPA logo in the landing page/main page for a day to show our support of the campaign? — subtank 18:46, 16 January 2012 (EST)
Support - The government of the United States of America needs to get their heads straight as to what that stupid bill will do.
Support - not that it's any of my business, not being a resident of the US (who am I kidding, this is going to have international consequences), but given Bungie's own recent announcement that they too oppose it, it would be extremely appropriate. A total blackout does seem a bit much, but perhaps the logo on the main/landing page, and a small, unobtrusive but noticable icon linking to an anti-SOPA site on other pages? -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 22:42, 16 January 2012 (EST)
Support — Not like I do jack shit around here anyways. :P Grizzlei ♥ ツ
Support - Oh those wacky politicians. "Politics... How tiresome." — Prophet of Truth :P —S331 (COM • Mission Log • Profile) 03:32, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support - 12 hour blackout or an anti-SOPA logo, I have no objections to either. - Nìcmávr (Tálk) 09:53, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support - I posted my protesting of the SOPA and PIPA bill on Twitter, and I think I may do the same on Facebook, so no objections. Only that it may be a bit of a hassle for me, because working on Halopedia is all I really do since I don't have a job now, and I'll also have to set a timer so I know when to get back on. Vegerot, if you're reading any of this, when this thing goes down, let's make an iChat talk date and we'll go from there. Speaking of which, when is this thing going to be put into effect? --Xamikaze330 11:13, 17 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
Support - I'd probably go for the anti-SOPA logo myself, but either way it's getting the message out. This bill will hurt everybody one way or another, and I doubt any website is safe from it. Whatever we do to get the message out, I say do it. Whatever it takes to force Capitol Hill to recognize the crime this bill is committing.262VigilantGuardian 12:27, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support - As per what everyone else, both here and on Bungie, Wikipedia, etc, has said. I'd be fine with taking down the whole site for 24 hours, but less drastic measures would be okay too :/ Alex T Snow 17:34, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support -meh.
Support - I can't imagine a day when I didn't use a wikisite like Wikipedia, but this Anti-SOPA Campaign sounds like a damn good idea. - Endor240
Support - I have been vehemently opposed to the SOPA legislation since I first read about it. I too believe that a Wikipedia-esque blackout is in order. It would be a poignant act of defiance if nothing else. --Courage never dies. 19:12, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support — Supporting anti-SOPA campaing internationally. PatrickRus 19:26, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support - It's for the best.NemeanCerberus 22:35, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support - This legislation will give the US government the ability to shut down any website for no real reason. I'm all for a black-out or any other course of action. This stupidity has to end. --Spartan-0093 (Comm Channel 0-93) 23:03, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support - Let's fight this shit. pestilence Phil, pestilence! 23:21, 17 January 2012 (EST)
Support- This is bullsh!t. Maginot Sphere 09:25, 18 January 2012 (EST)
Support- I hope those persons (SOPA supporter) will burn in hell.CF01 10:01, 18 January 2012 (EST)
Support- Because it is UNACCEPTable a US law will have affect on people worldwide. A Dutchman like me will feel the effects as well. Even if I can't sign the US bills, I will sign the overseas ones and try my best to stop this.--Thijsbos 15:05, 18 January 2012 (EST)
Support- Totally agree with you Thijsbos! Ga zo door!--Bdgroot-117 15:46, 18 January 2012 (EST)
Support Take down SOPA! Take Down SOPA!—This unsigned comment was made by Dalton1000000 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~
Comments
Proof of the Cabal's existence revealed in this shocking photograph. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws(talk) 02:28, 18 January 2012 (EST)]] Since there is no opposition to this idea, I would also suggest the Uncyclopedia approach: apply a censor-style text decoration on popular contents (e.g. John-117, games articles, Covenant). SpecOps' suggestion is also one we need to apply.
If possible, we should implement this by midnight (PST) or 8am those in GMT ±0.— subtank 11:28, 17 January 2012 (EST)
- Great, even here in Europe we are all being afraid of that stupid "SOPA"-bill... Hope someon's gonna notice it.--Bdgroot-117 16:40, 17 January 2012 (EST)
- Woot, nice censorship. This should teach the stupid bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. to get their heads straight. (Crap like this is what makes me want to leave the USA.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs
- Not that I'm agreeing with you entirely, but I too kinda feel like I want to leave the USA. My faith in the US government has been severely shaken. My grandpa has said in the past that the US government seems to have gone socialist; they make it very hard for a guy or girl to start a new company! Congress has gone too far this time, they need to be stopped at all costs, short of starting a civil war, or even another World War, this time the US is the bad guys! War is a long shot, but worldwide riots is most certainly a danger. Political bureaucratic fools! --Xamikaze330 17:51, 17 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
- Russian nation supports the freedom of the Internet. PatrickRus 19:26, 17 January 2012 (EST)
I will say two things - compared to actual socialist nations, or even centre-left nations like my own, the US seems unimaginably far-right, so please don't think this has anything to do with actual politics. This is your politicians caving to lobby groups who represent corporations who want to make as much profit as they can. As politicians always do, left or right. Secondly, this video sums up just why those corporations that support the bill are complete hypocrites. The guy is a bit... uh, enthusiastic, but it's a very good outline of specific and precise cases. -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 22:17, 17 January 2012 (EST)
- To put it politely: DIE SOPA, DIE!!! Tuckerscreator(stalk) 23:22, 17 January 2012 (EST)
- Echoing what SpecOps said, but this time from up north. Alex T Snow 00:51, 18 January 2012 (EST)
Maybe some popular pages' images could be replaced with the one at right? --Dragonclaws(talk) 02:28, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Strong Support for DC's suggestion! Plus, I found this site, which may be of some interest to us. -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 04:13, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- By the way, ever wondered what does POPA mean? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B0 PatrickRus 10:11, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- They're SOPA. As in Stop Online Piracy Act, and PIPA, as in Protect IP Act. --Dragonclaws(talk) 11:29, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Okay.jpg PatrickRus 11:34, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Well, PIPA is not much better. PatrickRus 11:38, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Google has done the same.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs
- Not sure why you put up that grotesque image here, PatrickRus. But anyway, I think I did ask in my SUPPORT comment about when is this blackout going to occur? At first I assumed that we would be doing it almost simultaneously with Wikipedia, but now I see that isn't the case. So now, I'd like to know (and I think we all could benefit from this) when the blackout will be put into effect. Times, dates, whatever. Enough talk already, when are we committing to this? --Xamikaze330 16:48, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
- It is impossible to implement a blackout in such short notice. As such, the campaign resorted to the other approach: censor the main page. Effective, I must say, given that several users in Waypoint actually noticed the change. :) — subtank 18:23, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Not sure why you put up that grotesque image here, PatrickRus. But anyway, I think I did ask in my SUPPORT comment about when is this blackout going to occur? At first I assumed that we would be doing it almost simultaneously with Wikipedia, but now I see that isn't the case. So now, I'd like to know (and I think we all could benefit from this) when the blackout will be put into effect. Times, dates, whatever. Enough talk already, when are we committing to this? --Xamikaze330 16:48, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
- Agreed with Xamikaze that the image is just disgusting, and comes under harmful or offensive content. Can someone please remove it? -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 18:26, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Thanks for agreeing with me, Specops306. And also, Subtank, I think I understand why we resorted to other measures instead. Certainly is effective, having to bring ones cursor over a link just to see what's under all that black ink... --Xamikaze330 18:35, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
- I was making a pun about a surinam toad, but sorry, I though it would be shown as a link, not an image on the page. PatrickRus 18:40, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Yeah well that still could have been seen as offensive, so just refrain from doing so.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs
- As you say, commander. PatrickRus 18:46, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Yeah well that still could have been seen as offensive, so just refrain from doing so.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs
- I was making a pun about a surinam toad, but sorry, I though it would be shown as a link, not an image on the page. PatrickRus 18:40, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Sorry for getting the name wrong, Xamikaze. Yes, as Tucker said in the edit history, I did confuse you with the title of an Orson Scott Card novel. In my defence, it was one of the good ones! -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 20:39, 18 January 2012 (EST)
- Apology accepted. I have to agree with you about Xenocide, though by preference, I liked Ender's Game/Ender's War far better. --Xamikaze330 21:31, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
- Thanks for agreeing with me, Specops306. And also, Subtank, I think I understand why we resorted to other measures instead. Certainly is effective, having to bring ones cursor over a link just to see what's under all that black ink... --Xamikaze330 18:35, 18 January 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
- Google has done the same.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs