|
|
| (19 intermediate revisions by 9 users not shown) |
| Line 1: |
Line 1: |
| {{Welcome|ADinoSupremacist|Anon}} | | {{Welcome}} |
| | |
| == Multiple Edits ==
| |
| | |
| Per above, such actions can be seen as an unethical way of obtaining points. Please make all your changes at once, it's easier.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 21:01, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
| |
| | |
| points? [[User:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
| |
| :You get 50 points for each edit you make. Making multiple edits within a short amount of time on a single article looks like you are abusing the point system. See [[Halopedia:Blocking Policy|this]] for more info.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 21:05, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
| |
| | |
| == List of appearances ==
| |
| | |
| First of all, thank you for your contributions. Second of all: ''[[Halo: Fall of Reach]]'' is a comic series all it's own and shouldn't be in a subpoint under ''Halo: The Fall of Reach'' in the List of appearances sections. It should be more like this:
| |
| *''[[Halo: The Fall of Reach]]'' {{1st}}
| |
| *''[[Halo: Fall of Reach]]''
| |
| | |
| Just thought I should let you know.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 16:59, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
| |
| | |
| == Your Edits ==
| |
| They are most likely gonna get reverted. See explanation [[Talk:Catherine-B320#Indirectness|here]]. Indirect mention is used for allusions, for example, "I was saved by [[Blue Team|a team of Spartans]]". The subject wasn't mentioned directly. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 13:39, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| :Yeah basically, if there was a statement in ''Ghosts of Onyx'' that was obviously an indirect statement referring to Noble Team, then it may be a different story. Ignore my signature.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Aqua; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">AP</span>]][[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Aqua; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">RIL</span>]][[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Cyan">'''FO'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Cyan">O</font>]][[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Cyan">'''LS'''</font>]]'' 15:05, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| A group of Spartans could be anybody. A character like Jorge is indirectly mentioned in the Fall of Reach. He is one of 75 children abducted. Just because he isn't named in the book doesn't mean that he's not one of those children. It's a indirect mention. [[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
| |
| :He is in no way mentioned in ''The Fall of Reach''. It would be an indirect mention if there was a statement within the book that makes an obvious ''allusion'' to Jorge without saying his name. Saying he had an indirect mention because the book says 75 children were conscripted is pushing it. With that logic, you could say that since the novel mostly takes place on Reach, that [[Sara Sorvad]] appears in the book along with the other 700 million colonists on Reach at the time.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Aqua; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">AP</span>]][[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Aqua; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">RIL</span>]][[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Cyan">'''FO'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Cyan">O</font>]][[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Cyan">'''LS'''</font>]]'' 15:48, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| ::Ultimately, one could argue that, as all Halo characters are part of the Halo universe, they are all mentioned in all Halo media ''indirectly'' as they take place in the Halo Universe. This is streatching the definition of ''indirect'' across the breaking point (about) five times over. It would likely create some sort of bizarre precedent which would be exploited in some sick way by those desiring points. - [[User talk:DefeatingLine|DefeatingLine]] 16:06, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| :''@ADinoSupremacist'' You're not getting it. Indirect mentioned should be specific, like "A Hungarian boy who claimed to be native on Reach was under John's command". It should be a specific indirect mention. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 09:22, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| Then how about for Fall of Reach? It shows the children's faces. At that point you can say that Jorge is one of them but you can't identify which one. It would be just like how you can see a picture of all 7 Halo rings and say that Installation 07 is one of them. [[user talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
| |
| | |
| :The rings count as appearances because functionally they are all the same, and the only things that set them apart besides their terrain is their number. ''Halo 2'' and ''Halo 3'' let us see how many rings there were, so it counts as their first appearance because their only identity is their number. But with individuals like Jorge and Kat, their identity is much more specific, with details like background, gender, appearances, etc, so more details need to be mentioned with them for it to count as an indirect mention. One can't say the huge crowd of [[Spartan-II Program|75]]/[[Alpha Company|419]]/[[Beta Company|497]] children is a mention, because none of them can be told apart and Jorge, Kat, and co. have an identity that needs to be specifically alluded to. The rings don't since they're identical machines with less differences. They're easier to indirectly mention thus. But Noble Team isn't, they need to be accompanied with details. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:24, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| | |
| Once more, a simple mention of the Halo Array as a whole in ''The Forerunner Saga'' does not constitute as an appearance in the books. The only ring that specifically appears in those books is Installation 07, which is the setting for the majority of ''Halo: Primordium''.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 15:22, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| | |
| == Some sources/citations would be nice ==
| |
| | |
| Just hoping that you add in some sources/citations to back up what you added. Your contributions do seem legitimate but others would not think so without any evidence/proof.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 21:05, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| :A mention of the Halo Array in ''Primordium'' and ''Cryptum'' does not constitute an appearance in the novel. Refer to the above conversation.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 21:13, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| I firmly believe there should always be sources, too many rumors get started that confuse people. (Nanites and Mark VI is a good example.) Sometimes I forget about sources and I apologize for that. As far as the Halos go, their appearance in Halo Cryptum is no different than their appearance than in [[Origins]] and [[Halo 2]]. The book describes the number of Halos. The games and episodes show the Halos (a visual description if you will) and they are not individually identified. Either way, they are listed to have appeared in those episodes or games. As far as I can tell if it's described that Bornstellar sees 7 Halo rings, that counts as a visual confirmation. If it was something like short story in which a soldier sees a Spartan with the numbers 117 on the armor, that counts as appearance on Master Chief's part. I'd like to see a moderator's input on this. Otherwise at this point if somebody was doing research, it would say that no Halo rings (except for 07) was in the books at all. [[User talk: ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
| |
| | |
| == Contributing and avoiding conflicts ==
| |
| | |
| You're quite an active user in the past 24 hours. :O
| |
| | |
| A friendly advice on editing a wiki; avoid starting/being involved in an edit-war. It creates problems. You know you're in one when you have to repeatedly revert/undo one's contribution in an article. Instead, start a discussion on the talk page of the article to discuss the issues surrounding the recent alterations to the article and try to reach some consensus. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:41, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
| | |
| So if somebody undoes my edit I then start up a discussion? Or when they undo my undo of their undo? [[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
| |
| | |
| :Yes. Because you would be in the better position than the other user.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:07, 4 April 2012 (EDT)
| |
