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[[ Image:Weapon swap.JPG|thumb]]Does anyone remember seeing flood brutes?--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 04:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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:No. I don't think Bungie put them in. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 05:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I know that you sometimes see dead bodies turn into flood. Are Brutes just ignored?--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 06:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


Maybe we will see Flood Brutes in Halo 3, we just have to wait and see. User:Joshua 029
== How many species are capable of being assimilated? ==


Wow, this is the only topic you guys could think of right now? Come on!--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 21:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
From the original trilogy we see flood in various forms yet only the humans, brutes, elites and the prophets are able to be infected. Yes in Halo Wars we see other forms of flood, including combat forms of grunts, jackals, hunters, buggers, engineers and even zombified birds, but those forms of assimilation are never heard from again. So is it safe only humans and three species of the covenant can be all alien races capable of been converted?--[[Special:Contributions/106.69.214.237|106.69.214.237]] 08:17, 23 August 2015 (EDT)


maybe juggernuts were flood brutes--[[User:Sangheili|Sangheili]] 00:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:No. As far as I know, the Flood ''can'' assimilate ''anything'' with sufficient biomass, calcium deposits (ie; bones) and brain power. If it's sentient, it just increases its "processing power" for lack of a better term. It's perfectly capable of assimilating animal life - the animals aboard the Infinite Succor were also infected, and turned into terrifying forms. We only see a few forms in the games for sake of game balance, and because forms based on Grunts and Jackals, which are more fragile than humans, Elites or Brutes, wouldn't be as interesting to the player. To my knowledge, the Flood ignores Drones and Hunters because Drones don't have a skeleton, which it uses to build new forms, and because Hunters don't have a singular consciousness to take over. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:35, 23 August 2015 (EDT)


I was looking at bungies marathon page and it mentioned and showed a picture of something called a fungal zombie which looked and seemed really close to the flood. {{unsigned|70.141.203.60}}
^ I think they can also "infect" all dead things, but when they are alive they wouldn't be infected. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 19:53, 23 August 2015 (EDT)


Hey, has anyone noticed there's a thing about the flood. They come in waves, waves of flood(parasite), floods can have waves in them(water). Anyone notice how they're similer?--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 23:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Could the other combat forms in Halo Wars be considered cannon? Because if they are, it would balance the list of the species that they assimilate.--[[Special:Contributions/106.69.214.237|106.69.214.237]] 05:02, 24 August 2015 (EDT)


Hey, does anyone know what that spore thing was for in High Charity at the end of Halo 2.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 15:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
:I don't see why it shouldn't be considered canon. Just because it hasn't appeared since doesn't mean it never did, or never will. If (when) the Flood ever do return to the Halo games, 343i could choose to diversify their game units by including some infected ambient wildlife, to fill new niches - a Flood Crawler, for example, made from an alien animal, etc. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:39, 24 August 2015 (EDT)


The Middle section of a Juggernaught is too thin to be a brute, and what spore thing in High Charity? The Brain forms?--[[User:UNSC AI #23|Will]] 16:16, 04 January 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me why my edit to the infection section was deleted, despite the fact I provided a source?--[[Special:Contributions/106.69.214.237|106.69.214.237]] 06:09, 28 August 2015 (EDT)


== Theories ==
:As stated in the edit summary made by the person who reversed your edit, the precursors weren't the original hosts, what was left of the Precursors ''turned into'' the Flood. Also as stated above by Morhek, the Flood don't infect Lekgolo or Yanme'e. Even with these corrections, the information you have put is stated elsewhere on the page. -- [[User:Topal the Pilot|'''Topal the Pilot''']] [[File:Blueteam.png|20px]] <small>([[User talk:Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Talk'''</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Contribs'''</span>]])</small> 06:22, 28 August 2015 (EDT)


I think the spores are the basis for the infection forms. The spores get into a host, turn him into a carrier full of infection forms. I think the Juggernaut a conglomeration of bodies like the brain forms. {{unsigned|Spacecase610}}
I too reverted the edits and I did to for the reason stated by Topal. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 06:39, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
:Yeah... we don't really know how it got started, but there must have been a first infection form, and it inserted its spores into someone, climbed in there to control it, and eventually more infection forms came out and did what the first one did. As for Juggernauts, I don't really think there is an explanation for them, which is why you don't fight them in the game. Bungie just couldn't think of something for them on time. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">g<sup>u</sup>e<sub>s</sub>t<sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">p<sub>e</sub>r<sup>s</sup>o<sub>n</sub>y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green"><sup>t</sup>h<sub>i</sub>n<sup>g</sup>y</font>]]''' 00:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


Yeah I agree with the Jug thing, (I think it should be noted as a discontinued Idea by bungie, not as an actual form) and the section with ideas on what the flood were, it seems to say "Many think" (or something to that nature) way to much, and needs to be changed. Finally on Brute forms, i think bungie just didnt have time so we may see them in H3 (seeing as how the majority is Brutes), and the Jug could be a brute, the flood change the host to meet its needs so the thin middle could be just the way they needed it. BTW you can see that the thigh area looks like a spine and thighs, covered in loose flesh.
== New image ==
[[User:Lt.O'Brien|Lt.O&#39;Brien]] 15:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


== EDITS ==
Let's get an image of flood from Halo 2 Anniversary's campaign for modern graphics. Or the lockout map.{{Unsigned|Editorguy}}


"The Flood demonstrated the ability to assimilate and infect non-sentient life forms such as those in the Hunting Preserve on the Infinite Succor."
== Flood's food ==


The Animals were sentient-life, the were conscious. This only shows that the do not only assimilate Bi-peds (living things that walk on two legs).
Flood can consume all lifeforms from sentient creature to non sentient creature (it can consume  animals,plants,microorganisms and absorb also nutrients from soil and also absorb sunlight for photosynthesis like plant.)


"This is similar to the events in Halo 1 where the Master Chief boards a Covenant ship to find Captain Keyes. Cortana notes the Flood are gathering bodies and it is most likely for the Brain Form that was found on the bridge."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7qI-Zus730


Also not true, moments later she says that they are gathering them 'most likely for food'
[[User:Nittin Das|Nittin Das]] ([[User talk:Nittin Das|talk]]) 10:35, July 11, 2019 (EDT)


And the section titled "Rules for Fighting the flood" is completely out of context, written in a real-world prospective, and is not written professionally.
== Flood virus form ==
 
-[[User:Lt.O'Brien|Lt.O&#39;Brien]] 15:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
There can be hypothetical form of flood can known as Flood virus(also called fragment of flood DNA)which is a smallest form of flood (even smaller than flood super cell) that can easily infect any lifeforms.
 
==[[Shotgun]] error==
How the flood virus formed?
 
In halo 2 the flood shoot shot guns with one hand. Yet they constintly shoot it with out having to cock it back. --[[User:Spartan 1 1 7|Spartan 1 1 7]] 23:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 
Cellular origin theory
== The spore and brute type combat forms ==
Some viruses may have evolved from bits of DNA or RNA of Precursor that "escaped" from the genes of a Precursor . The escaped DNA could have come from plasmids—pieces of DNA that can move between cells—while others may have evolved from other species.
 
[[User:Nittin Das|Nittin Das]] ([[User talk:Nittin Das|talk]]) 10:55, August 4, 2019 (EDT)
I think that the spore viewed in the begining of the post-game cinematic, is just a close-up shot of the stuff making the air look green. I think the reason that you don't see brute combat forms, is that they are used for a different purpose, or they might be too clumsy to be controled effectively by the flood.
 
== The forerunner and flood relationship ==
 
I think that just like humans, the forerunner were on a fool's errand to gain all the knowledge and secrets this universe has to offer. They abducted species from all over the milky-way, maybe further, and released them in facilities similar but not halo's to research them. After the halo's were built, they stored all they learnt on the solid/liquid state quantum-computers in the halo libraries (the glowing blue installations seen on Halo 04 on the level 'The Library'), as well as all the information neccesary to run the halo rings themselves. The index holds the research on the forerunners themselves. Each library and index is the same. The last species they discovered were the flood.
 
The flood also discovered them. The forerunner, with much effort, managed to collect some flood and set them relocated them to the halo's. Then, not long after things go wrong and the flood escape from containment. And the flood spread away from the halo's and contaminated the forerunner, and thus the great war began...
 
== A face in the Novel ==
 
I saw a face behind the Master Chief, did you?[[Image:Thefloodbook.jpg]]
 
== Face in the flood ==
 
i think thats Keyes - SPARTAN-410

Latest revision as of 23:36, August 27, 2019

How many species are capable of being assimilated?[edit]

From the original trilogy we see flood in various forms yet only the humans, brutes, elites and the prophets are able to be infected. Yes in Halo Wars we see other forms of flood, including combat forms of grunts, jackals, hunters, buggers, engineers and even zombified birds, but those forms of assimilation are never heard from again. So is it safe only humans and three species of the covenant can be all alien races capable of been converted?--106.69.214.237 08:17, 23 August 2015 (EDT)

No. As far as I know, the Flood can assimilate anything with sufficient biomass, calcium deposits (ie; bones) and brain power. If it's sentient, it just increases its "processing power" for lack of a better term. It's perfectly capable of assimilating animal life - the animals aboard the Infinite Succor were also infected, and turned into terrifying forms. We only see a few forms in the games for sake of game balance, and because forms based on Grunts and Jackals, which are more fragile than humans, Elites or Brutes, wouldn't be as interesting to the player. To my knowledge, the Flood ignores Drones and Hunters because Drones don't have a skeleton, which it uses to build new forms, and because Hunters don't have a singular consciousness to take over. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 19:35, 23 August 2015 (EDT)

^ I think they can also "infect" all dead things, but when they are alive they wouldn't be infected. Alertfiend (talk) 19:53, 23 August 2015 (EDT)

Could the other combat forms in Halo Wars be considered cannon? Because if they are, it would balance the list of the species that they assimilate.--106.69.214.237 05:02, 24 August 2015 (EDT)

I don't see why it shouldn't be considered canon. Just because it hasn't appeared since doesn't mean it never did, or never will. If (when) the Flood ever do return to the Halo games, 343i could choose to diversify their game units by including some infected ambient wildlife, to fill new niches - a Flood Crawler, for example, made from an alien animal, etc. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 05:39, 24 August 2015 (EDT)

Can anyone tell me why my edit to the infection section was deleted, despite the fact I provided a source?--106.69.214.237 06:09, 28 August 2015 (EDT)

As stated in the edit summary made by the person who reversed your edit, the precursors weren't the original hosts, what was left of the Precursors turned into the Flood. Also as stated above by Morhek, the Flood don't infect Lekgolo or Yanme'e. Even with these corrections, the information you have put is stated elsewhere on the page. -- Topal the Pilot Blueteam.png (Talk|Contribs) 06:22, 28 August 2015 (EDT)

I too reverted the edits and I did to for the reason stated by Topal. Alertfiend (talk) 06:39, 28 August 2015 (EDT)

New image[edit]

Let's get an image of flood from Halo 2 Anniversary's campaign for modern graphics. Or the lockout map.—This unsigned comment was made by Editorguy (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Flood's food[edit]

Flood can consume all lifeforms from sentient creature to non sentient creature (it can consume animals,plants,microorganisms and absorb also nutrients from soil and also absorb sunlight for photosynthesis like plant.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7qI-Zus730

Nittin Das (talk) 10:35, July 11, 2019 (EDT)

Flood virus form[edit]

There can be hypothetical form of flood can known as Flood virus(also called fragment of flood DNA)which is a smallest form of flood (even smaller than flood super cell) that can easily infect any lifeforms.

How the flood virus formed?


Cellular origin theory Some viruses may have evolved from bits of DNA or RNA of Precursor that "escaped" from the genes of a Precursor . The escaped DNA could have come from plasmids—pieces of DNA that can move between cells—while others may have evolved from other species. Nittin Das (talk) 10:55, August 4, 2019 (EDT)