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:::If the issue is that it implies the Sangheili were a united front too much, we can edit the article to make it more like the Covenant remnants page so that the various groups are more segregated.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 09:21, March 27, 2019 (EDT) | :::If the issue is that it implies the Sangheili were a united front too much, we can edit the article to make it more like the Covenant remnants page so that the various groups are more segregated.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 09:21, March 27, 2019 (EDT) | ||
===Naming?=== | |||
Following your comment [[User:Tacitus|Tacitus]], perhaps we can all think of a more suitable name or use context sensitive names on redirect links, one that doesn't give the implication that separating from the Covenant was voluntary. Covenant separatists is the only name used in an official context (Halo Encyclopedia, which is now outdated) and was used in a Canon Fodder write up by GrimBrotherOne but he changed separatists to Sangheili rebels (https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/bounty-hunters). Perhaps Sangheili rebels is a suitable name? [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 11:28, March 27, 2019 (EDT) | Following your comment [[User:Tacitus|Tacitus]], perhaps we can all think of a more suitable name or use context sensitive names on redirect links, one that doesn't give the implication that separating from the Covenant was voluntary. Covenant separatists is the only name used in an official context (Halo Encyclopedia, which is now outdated) and was used in a Canon Fodder write up by GrimBrotherOne but he changed separatists to Sangheili rebels (https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/bounty-hunters). Perhaps Sangheili rebels is a suitable name? [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 11:28, March 27, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:"Rebels" is more fitting than "separatists", but we also know that these groups had more than Sangheili in them; otherwise there would be no point in having them as a page separate from the [[Sangheili]] one. If I had to call the page something, the best I can come up with is "Great Schism rebels" or "Great Schism insurgents", which both limits the usage to the Great Schism (as the Covenant saw numerous rebel, insurgent and separatist movements over the course of its history) and removes the implication that they were Sangheili-exclusive. Still, I would dispute the need to have an umbrella page for factions within such a narrow timeframe, considering that, for all we know many of the Covenant remnants post-war could well have had their origins in the Schism era. --[[User:Tacitus|Tacitus]] ([[User talk:Tacitus|talk]]) 14:56, March 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::I'd argue that rebels isn't much better, as it implies the Sangheili are rebelling against something when they were effectively being stripped of citizenship of the Covenant. I think it would be better to keep the contents of this page on articles like the Great Schism, Sangheili, Covenant, and Fleet of Retribution/Xytan's Covenant. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 15:28, March 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:: I think that despite the time frame being narrow, the events were fleshed out deep enough and were a critical period in Halo's lore, with the universe and motivations being in a very different state than post-war. Great Schism rebels makes more sense than Covenant separatists, I think it works well. A few alternates I thought of as food for thought: | |||
::* Sangheili-led rebels | |||
::* Covenant exiles | |||
::* Great Schism exiles | |||
::[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 18:43, March 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||