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Bungie has, so far, only used the CCS and the Assault Carrier models for ships. If you are refering to the first image that one is fan made, as there was no Carrier in H2's opener. The size difference is likely a matter of perspective or a mistake. [[User talk:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 19:26, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Bungie has, so far, only used the CCS and the Assault Carrier models for ships. If you are refering to the first image that one is fan made, as there was no Carrier in H2's opener. The size difference is likely a matter of perspective or a mistake. [[User talk:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 19:26, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
:Umm, there ''was'' an Assault Carrier in Halo 2's opening. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 19:32, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
:Umm, there ''was'' an Assault Carrier in Halo 2's opening. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 19:32, January 7, 2010 (UTC)


There was an Assault Carrier in H2's opening cinematic, yes, I believe ProphetofTruth may have mistakenly written carrier instead of cruiser. It's odd too that Bungie won't use additional ship classes, makes the fleets look kinda incomplete. Not to mention, those two ship classes aren't used in the novels. It's truly odd, to me, why the novels and games can't go together a bit more smoothly. Thanks for the info, I was unaware that was a fan made image. Nicely done one though. [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 04:58, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
There was an Assault Carrier in H2's opening cinematic, yes, I believe ProphetofTruth may have mistakenly written carrier instead of cruiser. It's odd too that Bungie won't use additional ship classes, makes the fleets look kinda incomplete. Not to mention, those two ship classes aren't used in the novels. It's truly odd, to me, why the novels and games can't go together a bit more smoothly. Thanks for the info, I was unaware that was a fan made image. Nicely done one though. [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 04:58, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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Shouldn't this be 60 vessels?  This was stated in the terminals.  Also the 315 number is from all the Fleets at Reach I thought.[[User:Lord &#39;Themee|Lord &#39;Themee]] ([[User talk:Lord &#39;Themee|talk]]) 02:38, 17 November 2014 (EST)
Shouldn't this be 60 vessels?  This was stated in the terminals.  Also the 315 number is from all the Fleets at Reach I thought.[[User:Lord &#39;Themee|Lord &#39;Themee]] ([[User talk:Lord &#39;Themee|talk]]) 02:38, 17 November 2014 (EST)
:I got the impression that the 60 ships was just the initial growth over a few years and that the fleet may have continued growing before Reach, though it's possible this was meant to be the "present" number. But I've doubted for a long time the notion that all of the 315 ships that arrived on August 30 were from Particular Justice—in ''Halo 2'' Thel states that he followed "with all the ships in (his) command", ie. the entire Fleet of Particular Justice, yet there weren't hundreds of ships at Alpha Halo and many more Covenant ships remained at Reach. Plus I don't think it's ever been stated that Particular Justice comprised all those 315 ships. Since we know there were many fleets at Reach (including the [[Fleet of Valiant Prudence]]) it seems more likely to me the 315 ships were a combined fleet which included other identified fleets (albeit under Thel's operational command), with Particular Justice comprising only a part of it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:51, 17 November 2014 (EST)
::My thoughts exactly. Lord "Half a Continent" Hood's line was ''obviously'' meant to be hyperbole, so I've always found it irritating that the figure was taken at face value (however briefly) in official media. Valiant Prudence had around six ships and the fleet that arrived on August 14th had at least sixteen. Thel' armada (Particular Justice, Righteous Vigilance, Holy Respite, and perhaps other fleets) had 315. With generous rounding we end up with roughly 340 Covenant vessels engaged in the invasion. We can infer that Righteous Vigilance was attached to the August 30th group since their ships destroyed three ODPs; all twenty platforms remained active until that date. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 08:27, 17 November 2014 (EST)
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