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#{{Support}} - Per my statement above. -- | #{{Support}} - Per my statement above. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 00:46, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Support}} - As per General. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 15:37, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Support}} - As per General. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 15:37, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Support}} - As per General. [[User talk:Kronos101|Kronos101]] 17:39, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Support}} - As per General. [[User talk:Kronos101|Kronos101]] 17:39, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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#{{Oppose}} No. Once we get more information, it would make sense to have it's own page. Besides, it would get too jumbled with other infromation. --[[User talk:Chris-015|Chris-015]] 00:49, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Oppose}} No. Once we get more information, it would make sense to have it's own page. Besides, it would get too jumbled with other infromation. --[[User talk:Chris-015|Chris-015]] 00:49, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:But the other pages need pages as well, right? It wouldn't make sense for one ability to have its own page. It would be harder to navigate and more messy in its own sense.-- | #:But the other pages need pages as well, right? It wouldn't make sense for one ability to have its own page. It would be harder to navigate and more messy in its own sense.--<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 00:53, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#::This page could get a more detailed description (E.G Tactics, Trivia, ect) instead of cluttering the armour abilities page. [[User talk:MowatMan|MowatMan]] 12:50, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #::This page could get a more detailed description (E.G Tactics, Trivia, ect) instead of cluttering the armour abilities page. [[User talk:MowatMan|MowatMan]] 12:50, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:::Take a look at [[McFarlane Toys/Series 1|this page]]. Does it look cluttered at all? No. And, as a bonus, it has a lot of detailed descriptions, with all the figures on one page, without the need of their own page. -- | #:::Take a look at [[McFarlane Toys/Series 1|this page]]. Does it look cluttered at all? No. And, as a bonus, it has a lot of detailed descriptions, with all the figures on one page, without the need of their own page. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 15:53, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} - Equipment in Halo 3 get there own pages, so should armor abilities in Reach. - [[User:ShadowBroker44|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New;font-size:10pt;color:white;">''' ''S.B.44'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ShadowBroker44|<span style="color:black;">[T]</span></sup>]] 16:48, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Oppose}} - Equipment in Halo 3 get there own pages, so should armor abilities in Reach. - [[User:ShadowBroker44|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New;font-size:10pt;color:white;">''' ''S.B.44'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ShadowBroker44|<span style="color:black;">[T]</span></sup>]] 16:48, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:The difference is, every Equipment there is in ''Halo 3'' has its own page. Yet for the Armor Abilities, we would only have one page, for one ability out of a total of five. Additionally, most of the abilities would have pretty sad pages. Take the ''Sprint'' ability and put it in its own page. What do you put in there? -- | #:The difference is, every Equipment there is in ''Halo 3'' has its own page. Yet for the Armor Abilities, we would only have one page, for one ability out of a total of five. Additionally, most of the abilities would have pretty sad pages. Take the ''Sprint'' ability and put it in its own page. What do you put in there? --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 17:22, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#{{Oppose}} Why shouldn't Armor Lock get it's own page? Consolidating all the armor abilities simply to make things easier to navigate is a slippery slope argument. For example, if that's the case then we should merge active camouflage (it's own armor ability, by the way), over shield, and the other power-ups just to make things more easily navigable. Currently the jet pack has it's own page, but I don't see the same suggestion there as I do here; why are we holding Armor Lock to a different standard? No, it makes more sense to give armor abilities that [[Halopedia:Notability Policy|warrant it]] their own pages, and Armor Lock is one of them. It clearly will have significant coverage in ''Halo: Reach'' and as such have an extremely reliable source for references we can base the article on; and clearly doesn't fit well in any of the What Halopedia is not categories, and the closest would be "Halopedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". However, Armor Lock would have much more information available to be included in it than the example provided of '''Saturn'''. In addition, if the pages are merged I believe we'll find shortly after ''Reach'' is released that it will be more convenient to navigate if certain abilities have their own pages. Either way, we'll just have to wait and see. -- [[User talk:Lord Hyren|Lord Hyren]] 18:55, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #{{Oppose}} Why shouldn't Armor Lock get it's own page? Consolidating all the armor abilities simply to make things easier to navigate is a slippery slope argument. For example, if that's the case then we should merge active camouflage (it's own armor ability, by the way), over shield, and the other power-ups just to make things more easily navigable. Currently the jet pack has it's own page, but I don't see the same suggestion there as I do here; why are we holding Armor Lock to a different standard? No, it makes more sense to give armor abilities that [[Halopedia:Notability Policy|warrant it]] their own pages, and Armor Lock is one of them. It clearly will have significant coverage in ''Halo: Reach'' and as such have an extremely reliable source for references we can base the article on; and clearly doesn't fit well in any of the What Halopedia is not categories, and the closest would be "Halopedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". However, Armor Lock would have much more information available to be included in it than the example provided of '''Saturn'''. In addition, if the pages are merged I believe we'll find shortly after ''Reach'' is released that it will be more convenient to navigate if certain abilities have their own pages. Either way, we'll just have to wait and see. -- [[User talk:Lord Hyren|Lord Hyren]] 18:55, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
#:A merge is being suggested because none of the other Armour Abilities have their own pages, and that there's not enough info as it is to denote its own page. And the jetpack article is about the jetpack itself, not the actual ability. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 19:16, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | #:A merge is being suggested because none of the other Armour Abilities have their own pages, and that there's not enough info as it is to denote its own page. And the jetpack article is about the jetpack itself, not the actual ability. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 19:16, April 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||