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:I understand your position and i agree completely. However there are some people who may have sincerely changed, whether through a personal experience, or simply a change of heart and want to join the community again. This program is not meant to be a dropoff for every vandal that comes begging, such a policy would only serve as a minor consequence or punitive measure for those the administration, after reviewing the request, deem truly remorseful and sincere in their desire to rejoin us. Now of course we would not advertise this either. However if a vandal ceases to cause us problems, and contacts the administration seeking an unban, if they feel he is real, and after setting whatever terms they will, this would serve as the leash so to speak to ensure they keep in line. It can last for as long or as little as the administration determines. Never the less I respect your wisdom and knowledge. Thank you for your input. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 20:03, 4 May 2017 (EDT) | :I understand your position and i agree completely. However there are some people who may have sincerely changed, whether through a personal experience, or simply a change of heart and want to join the community again. This program is not meant to be a dropoff for every vandal that comes begging, such a policy would only serve as a minor consequence or punitive measure for those the administration, after reviewing the request, deem truly remorseful and sincere in their desire to rejoin us. Now of course we would not advertise this either. However if a vandal ceases to cause us problems, and contacts the administration seeking an unban, if they feel he is real, and after setting whatever terms they will, this would serve as the leash so to speak to ensure they keep in line. It can last for as long or as little as the administration determines. Never the less I respect your wisdom and knowledge. Thank you for your input. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 20:03, 4 May 2017 (EDT) | ||
Instead of creating such usergroup, what the administration team can do instead is banning the offenders for a limited time rather than for indefinitely. This would serve the same purpose as the proposal but with less work (and implementation) on the part of the administration team. We have the ban logs to track each user and the banning period can be extended accordingly. An alternative is to contact the administration team on [[Project:Discord | Instead of creating such usergroup, what the administration team can do instead is banning the offenders for a limited time rather than for indefinitely. This would serve the same purpose as the proposal but with less work (and implementation) on the part of the administration team. We have the ban logs to track each user and the banning period can be extended accordingly. An alternative is to contact the administration team on [[Project:Discord Server|Discord]]. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 09:41, 6 May 2017 (EDT) | ||
Similar views to Subtank and Morhek. Apart from the user from earlier this year, we don't get enough vandalism to necessitate implementing something like this. Plus in my own experience, these users never have any initiative to change and turn into a good user. I'd rather just do as we've done in the past.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Segoe Script; font-size: 11pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:#808080; font-family: Times New Roman">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:#808080; font-family: Times New Roman">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup> 11:37, 7 May 2017 (EDT) | Similar views to Subtank and Morhek. Apart from the user from earlier this year, we don't get enough vandalism to necessitate implementing something like this. Plus in my own experience, these users never have any initiative to change and turn into a good user. I'd rather just do as we've done in the past.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Segoe Script; font-size: 11pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:#808080; font-family: Times New Roman">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:#808080; font-family: Times New Roman">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup> 11:37, 7 May 2017 (EDT) | ||