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Cortana: ''"She resumed her normal state after her rescue."''
Cortana: ''"She resumed her normal state after her rescue."''


This seems to contradict itself, as Cortana is "restored". Thanks, '''[[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/Command Staff|<font color="black">General</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|<font color="blue">simon</font>]] [[User talk:Simon rjh|<font color="red">rj</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">h</font>]]''' <span class="sigexpand">[[Image:UNSCOH SimonRJH.jpg|30px]] <span class="sighidden" style="white-space:nowrap"><small><span title="Thanks Manticore!">WOW!</span> • [[User:Simon rjh/Userboxes|<font color="blue">USERBOXES</font>]] • [[User:Simon rjh/Awards|<font color="red">AWARDS</font>]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=simon%20rjh <font color="green">HALO 3</font>]</span></small></span> 13:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC) </span>
This seems to contradict itself, as Cortana is "restored". Thanks, '''UoH/Command Staff|<font color="black">General</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|<font color="blue">simon</font>]] [[User talk:Simon rjh|<font color="red">rj</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">h</font>]]''' <span class="sigexpand">File:UNSCOH SimonRJH.jpg|30px]] <span class="sighidden" style="white-space:nowrap"><small><span title="Thanks Manticore!">WOW!</span> • [[User:Simon rjh/Userboxes|<font color="blue">USERBOXES</font>]] • [[User:Simon rjh/Awards|<font color="red">AWARDS</font>]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=simon%20rjh <font color="green">HALO 3</font>]</span></small></span> 13:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC) </span>


== Are you sure? ==
== Are you sure? ==
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This article says that Juliana claimed to be rampant but showed no external signs. The Cole Protocol seemed to indicate that she had. She saw herself as a Goddess and acted accordingly to this belief for a while. While her love for the Rubble held her together long enough to get the job done, shouldn't an egotistical self importance be considered a stage of rampancy???  
This article says that Juliana claimed to be rampant but showed no external signs. The Cole Protocol seemed to indicate that she had. She saw herself as a Goddess and acted accordingly to this belief for a while. While her love for the Rubble held her together long enough to get the job done, shouldn't an egotistical self importance be considered a stage of rampancy???  
'''''[[User:Vadamee|<span style="color:orange">Vadamee</span>]]''''' ([[Special:Contributions/Vadamee | Contibutions]] [[UserWiki:Vadamee | Profile]] ) 13:17, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
'''''[[User:Vadamee|<span style="color:orange">Vadamee</span>]]''''' ([[Special:Contributions/Vadamee | Contibutions]] UserWiki:Vadamee | Profile]] ) 13:17, December 14, 2009 (UTC)


==Focus on Halo==
==Focus on Halo==
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Point being, it doesn't seem the stages are in ''Halo'''s rampancy, unless a more direct citation is there. Therefore, the stages should be removed. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:35, 26 November 2012 (EST)
Point being, it doesn't seem the stages are in ''Halo'''s rampancy, unless a more direct citation is there. Therefore, the stages should be removed. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:35, 26 November 2012 (EST)
:It obvious by now that rampancy in the ''Halo'' universe doesn't work the way it does in ''Marathon'', but there is some evidence of the stages existing in some capacity. Aside the appearance in ''Human Weakness'', Cortana mentions the stages in ''Halo 3'' (''"There will be no more sadness, no more anger, no more envy..."''). They may not be precisely sequential and clearly do not work like they do in ''Marathon'', but Cortana does exhibit emotions associated with them - sadness about her own condition and what will happen to John, anger in occasional bursts of her more rampant personality surfacing, particularly before crashing into Ivanoff Station, and envy, in a way, when she ponders the possibility of Halsey giving the Chief a new model of Cortana, who she knows still wouldn't be her. Still, this is all very vague and it's clear it doesn't mesh with the information on the page, which is mostly based on ''Marathon'''s version of rampancy. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:52, 27 November 2012 (EST)
I think the line in ''Halo 3'' is more in vein of a shout out to ''Marathon'' than an actual point about canon. It wouldn't have been perhaps if ''Halo 4'''s rampancy did follow the stages, but it didn't, or at least very vaguely. Cortana didn't seem very envious during that scene, more tearful, actually, certain she wouldn't get cured, and envy is characterized by trying to take over greater systems. Perhaps Bungie intended for Cortana to follow the stages, but didn't get to show it. Who knows, but the stages don't occur. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 01:13, 27 November 2012 (EST)
== Rampancy and psychosis ==
I took the liberty to add the psychosis aspect of rampancy. if you're not ok with this just shoot a message here i'll try to explain how it is related. [[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="LimeGreen">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="RoyalBlue">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color="Salmon">0</font>]]UoH/A Company|<font color="Gold">0</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Chief frank 001|<font color="GreenYellow">1</font>]]</sup> 21:41, 11 January 2013 (EST)