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We should merge this with Phantom... they're the same, except for the paint scheme. No change in weapons, or anything of the sort. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]][[Image:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]]</b> 22:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
We should merge this with Phantom... they're the same, except for the paint scheme. No change in weapons, or anything of the sort. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]File:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]]</b> 22:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


'''For''' as per AJ and Blemo --[[User:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">EliteSpartan</font>''']] [[Image:Sergeant-gr3.gif|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Black">My Talk</font>''']]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Black">My Contribs</font>''']]</sub>[[Image:Cavalier achievement.gif|30px]] 03:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
'''For''' as per AJ and Blemo --[[User:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">EliteSpartan</font>''']] File:Sergeant-gr3.gif|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Black">My Talk</font>''']]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Black">My Contribs</font>''']]</sub>File:Cavalier achievement.gif|30px]] 03:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 
'''For'''As per AJ. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|Jakalope]] 01:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 
'''For''' I am for because both of the phantoms are a same dropship and the difference is that one is separatist and the other loyalist. This is exactly the same as a [[banshee]] and a [[heretic banshee]].  [[User:Incendiary|Incendiary]] 16:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


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'''Against''' - We had the same discussion about the BR55HB SR vs the BR55, and there's two articles for those. The differences here are much easier to distinguish. If the two "different" Battle Rifles get two articles, then why not the two Phantoms? '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
'''Against''' - We had the same discussion about the BR55HB SR vs the BR55, and there's two articles for those. The differences here are much easier to distinguish. If the two "different" Battle Rifles get two articles, then why not the two Phantoms? '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:That is because those are two entirely different models of rifles, but are from the same series. The Separatist Phantom is the same model as the original Phantom, save for its green hue.--[[Image:M90 Shotgun (Torch Side).jpg|50px]] ''[[User:Blemo|<span style="color: gray; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10pt;">'''Blemo'''</span>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup></small> • <sub><small>  [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small>[[Special:Emailuser/Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">EMAIL</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small><font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="''Loser''. noun -- Anyone that is dumb enough to stare at a message on someone's signature for no apparent reason. You reading this pretty much proves the point.">MESSAGE</span></font></small></sub>'' 01:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:That is because those are two entirely different models of rifles, but are from the same series. The Separatist Phantom is the same model as the original Phantom, save for its green hue.--File:M90 Shotgun (Torch Side).jpg|50px]] ''[[User:Blemo|<span style="color: gray; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10pt;">'''Blemo'''</span>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup></small> • <sub><small>  [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small>[[Special:Emailuser/Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">EMAIL</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small><font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="''Loser''. noun -- Anyone that is dumb enough to stare at a message on someone's signature for no apparent reason. You reading this pretty much proves the point.">MESSAGE</span></font></small></sub>'' 01:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::And the active camouflage generator. And the fact that it belongs to a different faction. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 07:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::And the active camouflage generator. And the fact that it belongs to a different faction. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 07:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::What active camouflage generator? It can be a subset of the Phantom Page. The BR-55 and the BR-55HB SR have very large differences, while this and the normal Phantom share just a color difference.
:::What active camouflage generator? It can be a subset of the Phantom Page. The BR-55 and the BR-55HB SR have very large differences, while this and the normal Phantom share just a color difference. The Heretic Banshee however, had noticable differences, which qualified it as a separate article. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]File:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]]</b> 00:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::If we're using the Heretic Banshee as an example, then I can use that as the basis of my arguement to keep this page. The two craft are physically different in appearance, but ''function the same''. The Heretic Banshee is just brown, with its canopy ripped off. the Separatist Phantom, not only looks different, but is used differently, using its Activa Camo. The differences are more pronounced between the two Phantoms than between the two banshee's. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font>
[[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::They do the same thing. Drop off troops. Thats it. Thats all it does.  -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]File:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]]</b> 01:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Is there any evidence that the Loyalist Phantom '''doesn't''' have Active Camo. Maybe it's just not ben used in the series. The Elites had been at war with the rest of the Covenant for like, a week when Halo 3 happened, yes? I doubt they modified, tested and implemented Active Camo in that time. BTW, this isn't a vote, this is a counterpoint. -[[User:Frozenjakalope|Jakalope]] 01:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

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We should merge this with Phantom... they're the same, except for the paint scheme. No change in weapons, or anything of the sort. -- AJFile:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]] 22:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

For as per AJ and Blemo --EliteSpartan File:Sergeant-gr3.gif|25px]] My TalkMy ContribsFile:Cavalier achievement.gif|30px]] 03:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

ForAs per AJ. -Jakalope 01:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

For I am for because both of the phantoms are a same dropship and the difference is that one is separatist and the other loyalist. This is exactly the same as a banshee and a heretic banshee. Incendiary 16:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

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I dunno,both represent different factions,but they are the same vehicle. Maybe we should seperate the article into two different sections on the page? General.png Grievous797Comm

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Against - We had the same discussion about the BR55HB SR vs the BR55, and there's two articles for those. The differences here are much easier to distinguish. If the two "different" Battle Rifles get two articles, then why not the two Phantoms? Specops306, Kora 'Morhek 23:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

That is because those are two entirely different models of rifles, but are from the same series. The Separatist Phantom is the same model as the original Phantom, save for its green hue.--File:M90 Shotgun (Torch Side).jpg|50px]] Blemo progress-wheel.gif TALK CONTRIBUTIONSEMAILMESSAGE 01:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
And the active camouflage generator. And the fact that it belongs to a different faction. Specops306, Kora 'Morhek 07:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
What active camouflage generator? It can be a subset of the Phantom Page. The BR-55 and the BR-55HB SR have very large differences, while this and the normal Phantom share just a color difference. The Heretic Banshee however, had noticable differences, which qualified it as a separate article. -- AJFile:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]] 00:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
If we're using the Heretic Banshee as an example, then I can use that as the basis of my arguement to keep this page. The two craft are physically different in appearance, but function the same. The Heretic Banshee is just brown, with its canopy ripped off. the Separatist Phantom, not only looks different, but is used differently, using its Activa Camo. The differences are more pronounced between the two Phantoms than between the two banshee's. Specops306', Kora

'Morhek 01:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

They do the same thing. Drop off troops. Thats it. Thats all it does. -- AJFile:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]] 01:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there any evidence that the Loyalist Phantom doesn't have Active Camo. Maybe it's just not ben used in the series. The Elites had been at war with the rest of the Covenant for like, a week when Halo 3 happened, yes? I doubt they modified, tested and implemented Active Camo in that time. BTW, this isn't a vote, this is a counterpoint. -Jakalope 01:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)