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==Untitled==
This ship is in the concept art in the Art of Halo on page 127, bottom right corner, or what seems to be the Albatross. The shown ship has a remarkably similar cargo hold as the one viewable on Relic.
This ship is in the concept art in the Art of Halo on page 127, bottom right corner, or what seems to be the Albatross. The shown ship has a remarkably similar cargo hold as the one viewable on Relic.


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Is this the ship that gives you a scorpion in the halo 3 campaign or am I thinking of something else?[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 21:24, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
Is this the ship that gives you a scorpion in the halo 3 campaign or am I thinking of something else?[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 21:24, March 7, 2010 (UTC)


:You're thinking of something else. The Albatross is never seen operational. It is always seen crashed. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] [[Image:S4.jpg|18px]] 21:34, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
:You're thinking of something else. The Albatross is never seen operational. It is always seen crashed. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] File:S4.jpg|18px]] 21:34, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, do you know what it is?[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 19:26, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, do you know what it is?[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 19:26, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:: It's probably a Pelican, but if you could take a screenshot and post it on here, that would be much appreciated. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] [[Image:S4.jpg|18px]] 20:32, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:: It's probably a Pelican, but if you could take a screenshot and post it on here, that would be much appreciated. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] File:S4.jpg|18px]] 20:32, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:::I'll try to take a screen-shot. I know it isn't a Pelican, the ship that gives it to you is very large and a plate on the bottom extends down like a platform with lots of vehicles on it including two Scorpions. It is the level where 343GS says "Shall I help you choose a vehicle reclaimer? This one looks to be in perfect condition, primitive armour non-withstanding" about one of the scorpions and someone replies "A tanks a tank lightbulb"[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 19:14, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:::I'll try to take a screen-shot. I know it isn't a Pelican, the ship that gives it to you is very large and a plate on the bottom extends down like a platform with lots of vehicles on it including two Scorpions. It is the level where 343GS says "Shall I help you choose a vehicle reclaimer? This one looks to be in perfect condition, primitive armour non-withstanding" about one of the scorpions and someone replies "A tanks a tank lightbulb"[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 19:14, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:: Oh that. That's a Frigate and its use isn't supply drops like an Albatross, but it's a command ship. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] [[Image:S4.jpg|18px]] 20:33, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:: Oh that. That's a Frigate and its use isn't supply drops like an Albatross, but it's a command ship. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] File:S4.jpg|18px]] 20:33, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:::Thank you.[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 21:00, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:::Thank you.[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26|81.108.237.26]] 21:00, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:: You're welcome. :) -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] [[Image:S4.jpg|18px]] 21:02, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
:: You're welcome. :) -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] File:S4.jpg|18px]] 21:02, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


== Picture ==
== Picture ==
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[[User talk:The Armourer|The Armourer]] 16:11, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
[[User talk:The Armourer|The Armourer]] 16:11, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


: Looks like it was lifted from the game's files as it lacks an actual background and shows it from angles previously unseen. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] [[Image:S4.jpg|18px]] 16:37, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
: Looks like it was lifted from the game's files as it lacks an actual background and shows it from angles previously unseen. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] File:S4.jpg|18px]] 16:37, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


== D82-EST Darter ==
== D82-EST Darter ==


Should we mention the D82-EST Darter on the article as a predecessor to the D96. Didn't the D96 replace the smaller and less effective D82 later in the war? Just a thought to clear that up. Bunch of people think they are the same dropship do to similar cockpit. maybe generational differences? --[[User talk:RussellofSwinhart|RussellofSwinhart]] 09:39, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
Should we mention the D82-EST Darter on the article as a predecessor to the D96. Didn't the D96 replace the smaller and less effective D82 later in the war? Just a thought to clear that up. Bunch of people think they are the same dropship do to similar cockpit. maybe generational differences? --[[User talk:RussellofSwinhart|RussellofSwinhart]] 09:39, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
: The Darter would be concurrent with other dropship designs. Not a phased-out version but one with a different specific role. The Darter was initially named in the Essential Visual Guide for the dropship seen in Halo Wars. If the designation starts with "D", it's a dropship, so D77, D82, D96. I don't think the Darter's designation was fully spelled out officially, but I came up with EST as "Equipment/Supply Transport" but it didn't make it into the Guide as the page was actually for the Albatross, not the Darter. It is interesting to note that the Darter's aft set of engines are the same design as the aft engines of the Pelican. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (EDT)


==Outcast==
==Outcast==
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:[http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/detail/745aab3e99cf42ea8432514debe59057/outcast-screenshot-gallery It's a D82-EST Darter.] Check the fourth image in the gallery. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 12:00, 7 June 2013 (EDT)
:[http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/detail/745aab3e99cf42ea8432514debe59057/outcast-screenshot-gallery It's a D82-EST Darter.] Check the fourth image in the gallery. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 12:00, 7 June 2013 (EDT)
::Ah, that's awesome. Thanks for the clarification! -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 23:26, 7 June 2013 (EDT)
:The transport on that map is NOT a Darter. It is WAY too large for the Darter. The Darter is about the size of a Pelican. This ship is many times that size. NOt sure if we'll find out what it's called officially. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 11:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
::The caption for the image in question (the fourth in the gallery) explicitly calls the dropship a Darter. Its size in ''Halo Wars'' is because of gameplay restrictions, a {{Plain|[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnitsNotToScale ubiquitous trope]}} in RTS games. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 13:20, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
:My info comes from 343 Industries. It was going to be considered a Darter early on until a discussion involved one of their people comparing the model to a Warthog and they realized just how large a model they used and decided it was not. You may be referencing an old screenshot caption. There will be an opportunity coming up that could reference it explicitly, but it will not. I may be able to say more later. The Darter's size in Halo Wars is exactly as it was designed. It uses the Pelican's aft engines are is sized the same. I understand all too well how some things in games have exaggerated sizes. The Darter is not one of them. It was sized appropriately to the Vulture, Pelican, Shortsword, etc. I helped figure out those sizes for the Essential Visual Guide. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 15:25, 17 August 2013 (EDT)