Talk:Forerunner-Flood war: Difference between revisions

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Outcome of the war[edit]

Technically isn't it a self-induced Forerunner defeat, as the Forerunners annihilated themselves by firing the Halo rings while leaving the Flood alive.

You do know we're Forerunner right? And also, in Contact Harvest, after Mercident Bias(Or however you spell it)tells the Prophets at the Dreadnought that he has watched them misinterpret it for years, and he states that their symbol for "reclaimation" was actually upside down, and stood for "reclaimer", and therefore Harvest was full of them. Bllasae

Forerunner survival?[edit]

Why does it say that the forerunners survived and left the galaxy? I thought the Forerunners were killed by the array? And if I'm wrong then what's the source?Toen6 22:10, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

You're right, the Forerunners did not survive the Halo Array. Redkast 22:13, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

For both of your questions, this information came directly from the Halo Encyclopedia, specifically pages 16, 28, 171, and 289. It just hasn't been sourced into the page.

Unless there is more recent information that you are aware of that contradicts this, then this is, for the time being, fact. --Exalted Obliteration 23:38, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

As an additional note, acknowledging that this section is quite old, Silentium makes it clear that at least a small number of Forerunner survived when the Lesser Ark (the Halo 3 Ark) was fired; additionally, 343 released a short reading of the trial of Mendicant Bias after the release of Halo 4, which takes place some time after the Halos were fired. SNovah (talk) 01:01, 3 October 2013 (EDT)

So why is the talk page blank?[edit]

I came in here to see what was being disputed...and poof. Nothing. What the heck? Itsgms 06:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

How do we know that the Flood entered the Milky Way Galaxy in 98,379 BCE? That is only when they were discovered on G617g. The Flood could have been lying dormant on that planet for thousands of years.

I added more[edit]

commanders --KDP3 22:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Discrepancies in dating[edit]

I've been researching the Forerunner-Flood War as part of a discussion with a friend, and he said that the Halo Nation article has a more accurate dating of six centuries as said by this article, linked in the Halo Nation article. Is there a way to resolve this, or is Halopedia more accurate? --173.71.151.54 01:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)

That Cannon Fodder doesn't mention anything about the Forerunner-Flood war lasting six centuries, only that ended on 97,445 BCE. --They're coming. They're hungry. (talk) 08:24, 12 November 2016 (EST)

I thought so. Thanks for clearing that up. --173.71.151.54 21:58, 12 November 2016 (EST)

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 :You do know we're Forerunner right? And also, in Contact Harvest, after Mercident Bias(Or however you spell it)tells the Prophets at the Dreadnought that he has watched them misinterpret it for years, and he states that their symbol for "reclaimation" was actually upside down, and stood for "reclaimer", and therefore Harvest was full of them. [[User:Bllasae|Bllasae]]
+== Forerunner survival? ==
+Why does it say that the forerunners survived and left the galaxy? I thought the Forerunners were killed by the array? And if I'm wrong then what's the source?[[User talk:Toen6|Toen6]] 22:10, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
+You're right, the [[Forerunners]] did not survive the [[Halo Array]]. [[User talk:Redkast|Redkast]] 22:13, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
+For both of your questions, this information came directly from the Halo Encyclopedia, specifically pages 16, 28, 171, and 289.
+It just hasn't been sourced into the page.
+Unless there is more recent information that you are aware of that contradicts this, then this is, for the time being, fact.
+--[[User talk:Exalted Obliteration|Exalted Obliteration]] 23:38, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
+As an additional note, acknowledging that this section is quite old, Silentium makes it clear that at least a small number of Forerunner survived when the Lesser Ark (the Halo 3 Ark) was fired; additionally, 343 released a short reading of the trial of Mendicant Bias after the release of Halo 4, which takes place some time after the Halos were fired. [[User:SNovah|SNovah]] ([[User talk:SNovah|talk]]) 01:01, 3 October 2013 (EDT)
 == So why is the talk page blank? ==
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 commanders --KDP3 22:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
-==A Game==
+==Discrepancies in dating ==
+I've been researching the Forerunner-Flood War as part of a discussion with a friend, and he said that the Halo Nation [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forerunner-Flood_war#cite_ref-arraywithwords_0-0 article] has a more accurate dating of six centuries as [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/canon-fodder-array-with-words said] by this article, linked in the Halo Nation article. Is there a way to resolve this, or is Halopedia more accurate? --[[Special:Contributions/173.71.151.54|173.71.151.54]] 01:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)
-What if they made a Halo: The Forerunners game? The player takes control of a Forerunner, and fights the Flood, even some Floods never heard from before, new weapons, new type of [[Sentinel]]s, etc. What do you all think? --[[User talk:Mega Sean 45|Mega Sean 45]] 14:17, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
+:That Cannon Fodder doesn't mention anything about the Forerunner-Flood war lasting six centuries, only that ended on 97,445 BCE. --[[User:Dr Mutran|They&#39;re coming. They&#39;re hungry.]] ([[User talk:Dr Mutran|talk]]) 08:24, 12 November 2016 (EST)
+::I thought so. Thanks for clearing that up. --[[Special:Contributions/173.71.151.54|173.71.151.54]] 21:58, 12 November 2016 (EST)
-It's really funny... I had exactly the same thought, Sean! If Bungie did make a game about the history of the war, I would suggest that they make it in a 'Halo Wars' style. That way they could make the player feel like he/she is controlling the outcome of historical battles. This would also mean they could build upon 'Halo Wars' and include four factions (UNSC, Covenant, Flood, and Forerunner) in the game's multiplayer. I think that Gravemind and Mendicant Bias would make great heroes for the Flood, whereas the Librarian and the Didact would make great heroes for the Forerunners. If extra heroes are needed, I would suggest Guilty Spark for the Forerunners and a combat form of Gravemind for the Flood (Perhaps the mobile, cyclops form he takes in the Halo Legends episode 'Origins'?). John-117 might also make a good hero for the UNSC, and Thel 'Vadum a good one for the Covenant. In the game, they could also introduce the concept of space battles. (Of course, the UNSC and Covenant factions would only be available for multiplayer space battles.)
-I could envision the heroes being something like this:
-UNSC: Master Chief (John-117), Dr. Catherine Halsey, Sergeant Avery Johnson [Ground]
-Captain Miranda Keyes, Lord Terrence Hood [Space]
-Covenant: The Arbiter (Thel 'Vadam), Prophet of Truth, Chieftan Tartarus [Ground]
-Shipmaster Rtas 'Vadum, Brute Fleet Master? [Space]
-Flood: Gravemind (Pure Form), 032 Mendicant Bias, Gravemind (Combat Form) [Ground]
-Gravemind (Carrier Form), 032 Mendicant Bias [Space]
-Forerunner: The Librarian, The Didact, 343 Guilty Spark [Ground]
-Offensive Bias, The Didact? [Space]
-Space heroes would reside in their fleets' flagships.
-Gravemind's "Pure Form" would resemble the normal form that we see him in. It would either be immovable (in which case it would merely defend the Flood base and sit in the middle of it) or slow to move. The "Combat Form" would resemble the one-eyed, mobile, combat-adept form the Gravemind takes in 'Halo Legends'. This version would be able to move around the map and absorb enemy units to restore its health. The "Carrier Form" would resemble a highly mutated Forerunner vessel with huge growths coming out of it. Upon docking near an enemy vessel, one of the various growths would burst and infect the ship (they always grow back though); after a given period the infected enemy ship would become fully controllable by the Flood.
-The final level in the game could let the player play Offensive Bias and try to fend off Mendicant Bias's forces long enough for the Didact to activate Alpha Halo. At the end of the game, the twist could be that when the Didact removes his helmet before firing the Halo, that he looks very human (with perhaps unusually colored eyes and other somewhat alien features), indicating that the Forerunners and humans have a common ancestry. (The Forerunners could be descended from humans enlightened by the Precursors, but their home of origin had been lost to them until Earth was rediscovered at the end of the Forerunner-Flood War. This would verify the Librarian's claims that the humans of Earth are "special" and Guilty Spark's claim in 'Halo 3' that "You [Master Chief] are Forerunner.") Also, that would explain why Earth plant life is present on Forerunner installations, as the Precursors could have brought them along with the humans who would become the Forerunners to Forerunner worlds, perhaps in order to terraform them.
-In any event, that might be a really fun game to play! - [[User:Webspidrman]] 18 January 2010 (UTC)