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 :::* -Alright, I'll try to organize my sources better, but my sources are correct and accurate. You do understand how hard it will be for me to read through Contact Harvest, Broken Circle, ect and dig up the exact quotes, right?[[User:SpartanEdit0r|SpartanEdit0r]] ([[User talk:SpartanEdit0r|talk]]) 23:01, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
-::::That's not Doisac, and I am not saying they didn't have a rivalry, but your entire argument hinges on the idea that everyone hates everyone. Some individuals like Lydus and Ayit work with their peoples enemies to help their own people or just because they are sociopaths and want wealth, to hinge on the idea that grudges will always be held will mean the Humans and the Sangheili will never ally, which has already happened. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 23:10, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
+:::::That's not Doisac, and I am not saying they didn't have a rivalry, but your entire argument hinges on the idea that everyone hates everyone. Some individuals like Lydus and Ayit work with their peoples enemies to help their own people or just because they are sociopaths and want wealth, to hinge on the idea that grudges will always be held will mean the Humans and the Sangheili will never ally, which has already happened. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 23:10, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
-:::::The reason there is such an entirity, is because the whole race was affected by the great schism. In Halo 2 the prophets ordered the Brutes to kill ALL the Elites on sight, and kick them ALL out of the Covenant. There would be no way for an Elite or Brute not to be affected by that unless they were living under a rock. Just like how events in our world when one group commits atrocities to another its not going to be easy for both groups to reconcile. How well do you think Israeli's would react to a neo-Nazi living in Jerusalem? Probably not very well and I imagine the same would apply with Brutes living on Sanghellios. You can rightly make the claim the Brutes and Elite's aren't single-minded, but after the Brutes murdered numerous Elites on High Charity, Delta Halo, New Mombasa, across the Covenant fleets and then ATE their corpses after slaying them, good luck reconciling that.
+::::::The reason there is such an entirity, is because the whole race was affected by the great schism. In Halo 2 the prophets ordered the Brutes to kill ALL the Elites on sight, and kick them ALL out of the Covenant. There would be no way for an Elite or Brute not to be affected by that unless they were living under a rock. Just like how events in our world when one group commits atrocities to another its not going to be easy for both groups to reconcile. How well do you think Israeli's would react to a neo-Nazi living in Jerusalem? Probably not very well and I imagine the same would apply with Brutes living on Sanghellios. You can rightly make the claim the Brutes and Elite's aren't single-minded, but after the Brutes murdered numerous Elites on High Charity, Delta Halo, New Mombasa, across the Covenant fleets and then ATE their corpses after slaying them, good luck reconciling that.
-:::::Jul (or any Elite) would have to find it in their heart to make peace with rival Elites (the Arbiter is a rival of Jul) first, their fellow kins would be easy to forgive as Elites have strong kinships. Then they would have to make peace with the Humans who have killed many of their people. Then after they have found it in them to make peace with fellow Elites and Humans, THEN maybe they could make peace with Brutes, who betrayed and back stabbed their fellow kin in cold blood (unlike humans who fought a face to face war).
+::::::Jul (or any Elite) would have to find it in their heart to make peace with rival Elites (the Arbiter is a rival of Jul) first, their fellow kins would be easy to forgive as Elites have strong kinships. Then they would have to make peace with the Humans who have killed many of their people. Then after they have found it in them to make peace with fellow Elites and Humans, THEN maybe they could make peace with Brutes, who betrayed and back stabbed their fellow kin in cold blood (unlike humans who fought a face to face war).
-:::::Until we see Jul forgiving the Arbiter and Humans, and making peace with them. He won't be making peace with the Brutes who are on the top of every Elite's hate list (if they were awake at any point during Halo 2's events)[[User:SpartanEdit0r|SpartanEdit0r]] ([[User talk:SpartanEdit0r|talk]]) 23:36, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
+::::::Until we see Jul forgiving the Arbiter and Humans, and making peace with them. He won't be making peace with the Brutes who are on the top of every Elite's hate list (if they were awake at any point during Halo 2's events)[[User:SpartanEdit0r|SpartanEdit0r]] ([[User talk:SpartanEdit0r|talk]]) 23:36, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
 YES, THEY CAN AND HAVE.