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:My understanding has always been that out-of-universe statements of canon trump fictional works set in-universe, except where a clear contradition that isn't an outright retcon occurs. It looks like Contact Harvest was retconning the Bestiarum, and then the Visual Guide retconned it back, and now Catalog is re-retconning it. Assuming that more recent sources are more reliable, I would say that Te has to be a gas giant, and that previous statements treating it as a literal homeworld that the Lekgolo originated on are no longer valid. Of course, 343i could handwave it all by playing the "alien biology" card... -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:11, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:My understanding has always been that out-of-universe statements of canon trump fictional works set in-universe, except where a clear contradition that isn't an outright retcon occurs. It looks like Contact Harvest was retconning the Bestiarum, and then the Visual Guide retconned it back, and now Catalog is re-retconning it. Assuming that more recent sources are more reliable, I would say that Te has to be a gas giant, and that previous statements treating it as a literal homeworld that the Lekgolo originated on are no longer valid. Of course, 343i could handwave it all by playing the "alien biology" card... -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:11, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
::The Lekgolo (through whatever means) had the capability to venture into space. It need not be the case that the ring material they are found on orbiting a gas giant is the same as their terrestrial home world. If you read the content of the Bestiarum, it's clear that their homeworld has a solid ground with mining concerns on the surface when the Sangheili arrived. You won't find mining metals and minerals in a gas giant. Next time I contact Catalog, I'll ask for clarification. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 07:10, 12 August 2014 (EDT)

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How would the elites move, let alone fight on a planet with nearly 2 more gravities than their homeworld? --Jaguartalon 20:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Send in rangers? Antigrav tech could reduce the gravity felt.That Geek 07:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Stub

Is this really a stub? In my view it has a fair amount of information to be complete. TailSpin 03:53, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Gas giant

So, a while ago Catalog stated that Te is a gas giant. This creates an inconsistency with the Bestiarum, which clearly describes the planet as a terrestrial one. Previously, Contact Harvest mentioned that the Lekgolo were first encountered in the rings of a gas giant that was never named, so the inconsistency could be bypassed by assuming this gas giant was a Lekgolo colony separate from Te (something that is presently reflected in our relevant articles). But with Catalog's statement supporting the idea that the gas giant mentioned in Contact Harvest was indeed Te, should we simply ignore the Bestiarum's descriptions when it comes to the canonical article body and note the discrepancy accordingly? --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 02:12, 11 August 2014 (EDT)

The discrepancy should be noted, but I'd consider the Bestiarum as higher in the canonical hierarchy since it was material from a game, making it the supreme source in this case. I favor sticking with it. We could also explain the Bestiarum's description of Te as an error made by 343 Guilty Spark, as his observations are noted to be "under investigation."--Spartacus TalkContribs 11:45, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
Both the Bestiarum and the original Visual Guide entry on Hunters refer to Te as though it's a rock/metal world and not a gas giant. Gas giants do not possess a surface as such and are gas to the core. The core only exists at crushing depths often made from metallic hydrogen...a hydrogen so densely packed it's atomic structure lines up like a lattice structure in a metal. Suffice it to say, nothing would live there. Catalog has not been infallible, so I'd chalk this up to a mistake on its part which may get resolved. Simply put, Te cannot be a gas giant if it has a surface and things live on it. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 22:32, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
Would you say that the mention of the Lekgolo living in the rings of a gas giant in Contact Harvest was also in error and that said ringed planet was in fact meant to be Te, or that the ringed gas giant was in fact a different planet? --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 23:16, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
My understanding has always been that out-of-universe statements of canon trump fictional works set in-universe, except where a clear contradition that isn't an outright retcon occurs. It looks like Contact Harvest was retconning the Bestiarum, and then the Visual Guide retconned it back, and now Catalog is re-retconning it. Assuming that more recent sources are more reliable, I would say that Te has to be a gas giant, and that previous statements treating it as a literal homeworld that the Lekgolo originated on are no longer valid. Of course, 343i could handwave it all by playing the "alien biology" card... -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 04:11, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
The Lekgolo (through whatever means) had the capability to venture into space. It need not be the case that the ring material they are found on orbiting a gas giant is the same as their terrestrial home world. If you read the content of the Bestiarum, it's clear that their homeworld has a solid ground with mining concerns on the surface when the Sangheili arrived. You won't find mining metals and minerals in a gas giant. Next time I contact Catalog, I'll ask for clarification. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 07:10, 12 August 2014 (EDT)