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Halo Xbox One

All the official sources, like Halo Waypoint, refer to this game as Halo Xbox One instead of Halo 5. Has anyone confirmed that it's called Halo 5? Bioniclepluslotr 18:32, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

I can't reasonably seeing them calling the game anything else, but you're right. At no point has 343 ever used the title "Halo 5". Until they do, we should refrain from referring to it as such.-- Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 19:17, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

I agree. While Occam's Razor basically screams that the game is Halo 5, we need to wait for confirmation. Until then, Halo Xbox One will have to suffice. --Courage never dies. (talk) 19:29, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/344182593647964160 Link refers to it as Halo 5Death will follow you...^{but you can survive} 19:36, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

A hashtag isn't an official title announcement. Besides, that thread wasn't even started by Xbox. That hashtag has existed for months as people speculate. I'll give the other users some time to comment before moving the page.-- Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 19:48, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Even if I strongly think that this game is Halo 5, there is still no official information as it being called Halo 5 or being the second installment in the Reclaimer Trilogy, etc. But instead of immediately moving the page, maybe we should just wait for the next Bulletin or a press release from Halo Waypoint (something more than just the trailer). I'm pretty sure that 343 will confirm or deny it. Well, either that, or they don't know how to properly name a game / announce it. If this week's Bulletin doesn't clearly state that the game is Halo 5, then change it to Halo Xbox One or whatever. Or we may as well do it today, but it will possibly be changed again. Edit: Well it seems that even the Waypoint forum is called "Halo Xbox One"... This really doesn't make any sense to me. If it were Halo 5, why wouldn't they call it such? And if it were a spin-off set between H4 and H5, then why wouldn't they use a subtitle...Imrane-117 (talk) 20:01, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Just my two cents - here it says "The award-winning franchise continues on Xbox One, beginning in 2014. Final title to be announced at a later date." That may mean the title "Halo Xbox One" (and perhaps Halo 5) are just temporary/working titles, and aren't permanent. So just a heads up before moving the page to "Halo Xbox One", which IMO wouldn't make sense as a video game title especially for the Halo series.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 20:43, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Well, since we know "Halo: Xbox One" is not going to be the actual title, I think "Halo 5" is our best option, unless we really want to change it to "Unnamed Halo game (2014)". Alex T Snow (talk) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Nobody's saying "Halo Xbox One" is going to be the final title. Odds are we'll move the page then move it right back when it's officially announced as Halo 5. But we don't get to call it Halo 5 until either 343 Industries or Microsoft call it that. That being said, what do we think sounds more appropriate for a title: "Halo Xbox One" or "Halo (Xbox One)"?-- Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 21:53, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Halo 5, definitely. Halo (Xbox One) leaves too much open for confusionOcean Soul (talk) 22:24, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Whatever name we make up for this article will be just that, a made up name. Whether it's "Halo (Xbox One)" or Halo 5 we're still just making it up. I personally feel that Halo 5 is much more descriptive, as it implies a mainline game, as opposed to a spin-off like Spartan Assault. If you're going to say we can't call it Halo 5 until 343 calls it that, we can't really call it anything else either. Whatever we call it will be our own invention. --Weeping Angel (talk) 22:47, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

The title in the trailer just says Halo, so perhaps Halo (2014)? Bioniclepluslotr 08:21, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Look, we can't just ignore our own policy when it suits us. The game has not yet been called Halo 5 by any official source so until it is, we should not label the page as Halo 5. Rather, we should use an official name. The way I see it, we either go by the trailer and do as Bioniclepluslotr said, calling it Halo (2014), or we go by 343 and MS and call it Halo Xbox One. Personally I'd go with the trailer as the term "Halo Xbox One" is likely to differentiate this title from Halo Combat Evolved.--Soul reaper (talk) 09:44, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

I agree. If they aren't calling it Halo 5, then we shouldn't be either. The page should be appropriately renamed to Halo Xbox One as that's the name they are currently using. Could always be a working title, but right now it's the best we have.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 11:15, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Makes sense as per policy. Is someone going to rename the article? Bioniclepluslotr 13:18, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

All right, you guys have convinced me. It looks like we have a consensus here. Do we need a vote? If not, let's go ahead and change the page to Halo (Xbox One).--Weeping Angel (talk) 09:53, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Several 343i employees were tweeting "Halo 5" and "sequel." This is obviously Halo 5 with just "Halo Xbox One" as a working title but it is in fact apart of the Reclaimer Trilogy and a sequel to Halo 4. --ADinoSupremacist (talk) 19:43, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Then the sources should be indicated in the article. Imrane-117 (talk) 20:30, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

Post links to the tweets.-- Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 21:02, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

It's weird, but I agree that we should follow what the developers seem to indicate is the best possible designation and avoid wiki speculation. It's possible that Microsoft marketing wants to promote the Xbox One so much that they want to abandon mention of previous Halo games. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 18:34, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

A few days ago, Killamint posted this link which indicated that "the final title will be announced later", but it looks like it has been removed... Imrane-117 (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Per the Latest Halo Bulletin, Halo Xbox One is the working title: The Halo Bulletin: 6.19.13

Second Lieutenant Keith Johnson File:7thHelljumpers.jpg ^{com link} 04:56, 20 June 2013 (EDT)

First appearances

Why is the Forerunner machine listed as a first appearance? If it's a Seeker or a War sphinx it's not a first appearance. I think we should wait declaring this as such until we have some sort of confirmation. Similarly with the planet. It may be a first appearance. It may not.We don't know --Weeping Angel (talk) 20:08, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

If it's confirmed as a War Sphinx, that tag would be removed, but this is the first appearance of a giant Promethean bird mech thing. Alex T Snow (talk) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Isn't it regardless the first appearance of such technology in the games?Ocean Soul (talk) 22:21, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

Well, it would be in the games, but it was mentioned in the Greg Bear books. Does that count as a first appearance? --Weeping Angel (talk) 22:49, 10 June 2013 (EDT)

I agree, as it was done for characters preseted in the books, if this machine is a sphinx then it would not be its first appearance. PS: it's me or it reminds a bit of a reaper of me mixed to chtullu?

I have a better image of the Forerunner machine that shows it clearly has legs. I don't know how to upload it, but I have it here: http://s283.photobucket.com/user/specter_wulf/media/ForerunnerMachine_zps17d29750.jpg.html Ocean Soul (talk) 15:44, 16 June 2013 (EDT)

Should the "planet" and it's "moon" be listed as a first appearance? If it turns out to be Installation 00 - which the "moon" looks like the planetoid in the center - then it certainly isn't the first appearance. I understand that at such a time that information is known the tags will be amended, but should we assume it's a first appearance with little to nothing to go off?Ocean Soul (talk) 13:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

The Planet in the background is it just me or does he looks like Threshold? So that could mean that John is on BAsis, but thats only my theory so. 93.197.122.96 17:47, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

@ Ocean Soul: Exactly! We don't know if these are first appearances or not. I think we should wait on calling them that, until we have confirmed information, just like we would with anything else, and just like we don't want to call it Halo 5. It's not confirmed that it's new, so don't call it that. --Weeping Angel (talk) 22:22, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Navigation Bar

Can someone put this in the navigation bar? Thanks much, --Weeping Angel (talk) 09:14, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Thanks to whoever put it on the navigation bar! --Weeping Angel (talk) 22:24, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Cortana's Data Chip

I don't think that's Cortana's data chip because near the end of Halo 4, her data chip was destroyed. Pokebub (talk) 17:56, 22 June 2013 (EDT)

Maybe. The circumstances of her "death" are pretty ambiguous. The intention of the shot is clearly that it's Cortana's though, regardless of whether that happened or not. Alex T Snow (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2013 (EDT)

Chief has shown in Halo 2 and Halo 3 that he can plug Cortana into a system without physically plugging in the chip. Each time in Halo 4 he was likely just bringing it near the terminal so she could jump in. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 19:25, 22 June 2013 (EDT)

No, in halo the sequences of plugging in cortana chief insert the chip into the pillars or whatever they are, and then he plugs her out. probably the trailer was done to make a clear reference that chief's journey is related to cortana—This unsigned comment was made by 79.44.92.147 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I seriously doubt that a UNSC datachip is going to be completely compatible with a Forerunner "AI pillar." It's likely as Tucker says; that it's a "wireless" data transfer. -Ocean Soul

Guys this is not Halo 5!

See news source http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15372-E3-Halo-Unveil-Wasn-t-Halo-5--Halo-2--Anniversary-Being-Discussed.html

IT IS NOT HALO 5. I nominate for this article to be deleted until further notice or an official announcement that Halo 5 is actually coming up.

User:Nusent 17:50, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

Hence why the article is called "Halo Xbox One." The article you cite still points out it's an actual game.--Hawki (talk) 18:19, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, just because it isn't Halo 5 it doesn't mean it should be deleted. Pokebub (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

I concur. Let's not be hasty and jump to conclusions, shall we? --Xamikaze330 [Transmission|Commencing] 20:19, 2 July 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330

Not Halo 5 or Halo 2 Anniversary? I've got no ideas on what this is going to be :/ Alex T Snow (talk) 21:56, 3 July 2013 (EDT)

The game could be Halo 5, it's just not announced yet. The trailer was merely there to announce the coming of the franchise to Xbox One and let the fans speculate. It could also be something else, but at this point it's barely possible to imagine what that would be. Imrane-117 (talk) 08:55, 4 July 2013 (EDT)

Imrane, The article that Nusent linked states that "Halo Xbox One" is NOT "Halo 5". did you not read the article before stating what you did? 1-10 (talk) 12:37, 5 July 2013 (EDT)

And they're using big words for nothing. They keep repeating that "the game is not Halo 5", etc. but Spencer never said anything about that. Read the original IGN interview here. The only reason why they didn't reveal the name was because the trailer was just to announce the franchise's arrival on Xbox One. It could be Halo: spin-off blabla as well as Halo 5, we just don't know anything yet. Imrane-117 (talk) 21:46, 5 July 2013 (EDT)

Oh, a trailer for the universe as a whole, not anything specific, that makes sense. Alex T Snow (talk) 17:42, 6 July 2013 (EDT)

Halo 5 leak

Should we mention the supposed leak of Halo 5 at the Microsoft Meeting in the article? Pokebub (talk) 15:41, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

No. Bioniclepluslotr 11:27, 5 August 2013 (EDT)

I haven't heard of any supposed leaks. Also, leaked content is not allowed.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 11:37, 5 August 2013 (EDT)

Plot "leak"

The plot posted on the Microsoft Store has been confirmed as an error made by a "hapless employee" by Frankie, and has since been removed from the site. I would suggest we remove it, as it does not represent anything from the Halo Xbox One plotline, and is an error. Just so we aren't misleading anyone. :) --TentacleTornado 05:44, 31 August 2013 (EDT)

Done. Ok, so maybe don't always use the DMR anymore. That two shot-melee is pretty good. This is craZboy557, signing off. 06:23, 31 August 2013 (EDT)

RE: Cortana's data chip

Everyone is talking about the chip that chief has in the new halo teaser. This is NOT cortana's but probably a blank chip that he got from the UNSC. The reason is that near the end of halo 4 her chip was destroyed. We have all seen in halo 2 and 3 that cortana can survive without her chip. Much like a flash drive you can put info on one, tranfer it to a computer, and then destroy the flash drive and still have the data. What I am saying is that there still might be a fragment of cortana still out there (dont ask where) and chief is trying to find it to maybe restore her. This is just wishful thinking but if that is the case after all chief would not have the chip but for that reason. more and more are we beginning to see how chief is more human than giant killing robot. I think that he is broken at his core until he finds cortana. All this i have gotten from halo5follower on youtube.---Zman3034

That's a good point, the chip was still in the terminal, so its either a new one or just representative. Yeah, Cortana's obviously not gone; there's Halsey's recording talked about how the seven year life span may not (meaning does not, this is fiction) apply, the Librarian's seed that was planted in humanity eventually leading to three things: Chief, Mjolnir, and Cortana (Halsey echoes this), Didact calling her an evolved, Cortana explaining that the Knight disintegration is actually a data purge (not deleted, but sending the data somewhere else, as she tracks it after), that the Knights fought in Spartan Ops are from New Phoenix, meaning those personalities were transferred off Mantle's Approach before it was destroyed, possibly via the slipspace portal (thus so could Cortana), Chief not allowing anything to come between him and Cortana (like Del Rio) and being seemingly on the run or hiding in the trailer, while Halsey is on the run and all she actually cares about anymore is her Spartans, with ONI, who's after her, being setup as a shades-of-grey antagonist, and 343 can pull of the reveal without ever giving it away since they need Jen Taylor to voice Halsey anyway. I'm sorry, this went a tad off-topic :/ Alex T Snow (talk) 15:58, 4 February 2014 (EST)

I thought the intent was more metaphorical, or representative? 343i have already said it's technically not a trailer for Halo 5, so my assumption was that John isn't literally there - that the wasteland is his loneliness now that she's gone, that when he looks at the chip which shouldn't still exist it's him reminiscing, and that the Forerunner machine that rises represents a threat looming on the horizon that he somehow knows about. -- Qura 'Morhek ^{The Autocrat of Morheka} 22:34, 4 February 2014 (EST)

Amazon Pre-order

I just noticed that this is available for pre order on Amazon. How should we incorporate this into the article? Should we, even? I can't show the link, because the spam filter won't let me, but if you search for "Halo Xbox One" on Amazon you can see what I mean. --Weeping Angel (talk) 21:18, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

Pre-order offers ahead of the actual release is quite common. In fact, it is so common that it's trivial to even list it in the article. Unless there's any special announcement alongside the pre-order, I would suggest not putting it in the article.— subtank 07:50, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

What about the release date mentioned? Should we include that? Seeing as it is unconfirmed by 343i, probably not, right? --Weeping Angel (talk) 08:33, 20 April 2014 (EDT)