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Why was the New Content template removed? I put it there because Stephen Loftus speculated that there may possibly be new information coming soon, what with the ''Halo 4: Essential Visual Guide'' coming out in September this year. But it is just speculation. Another thing I'm speculating/wondering is, was or is the ship presumed lost? But still, maybe we should err on the side of caution... --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:49, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
Why was the New Content template removed? I put it there because Stephen Loftus speculated that there may possibly be new information coming soon, what with the ''Halo 4: Essential Visual Guide'' coming out in September this year. But it is just speculation. Another thing I'm speculating/wondering is, was or is the ship presumed lost? But still, maybe we should err on the side of caution... --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:49, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
== Rename ==
I believe the article should be renamed to CFM-88. If I'm not mistaken, the editing convention of this wiki on the use of "Unidentified ship DA DA DA" is only if there is no other identifier/descriptor that could be used for the subject. This vehicle however does have one: CFM-88. Just like [[FFG-127]].— [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 22:48, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:I agree with this move in part. We'll know more ''I'm sure'' by September, but consider this: If it's just changed to '''CFM-88''' as a subject title and I'm doing a search for this ship because I saw it in Adrift and knew it was a mining vessel and I recall it was from the CAA but didn't remember its registry number, would I still find it in a search for "CAA" or "Mining"? Just curious. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 22:52, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
::I personally oppose this move. The present article title is much more specific. Moving it to just plain CFM-88 is a dumb move, to be completely honest. I say keep it the way it is. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 23:11, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:::Oh, and BTW, CFM-88 is not a ships name, it's a hull classification symbol, a registry number of sorts. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 23:14, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
::::The use of "Unidenfied Da Da Da" is just unnecessary IMO, per above. I don't know how it is a dumb move and hull classification symbol is a ship's identifier, which effectively identifies one ship from another. Best example, there are tons of ships named Enterprise but what sets them apart is their hull classification symbol/registry.— [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 23:32, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
::::::Still, it is just too generic, not very descriptive. In my ''Halo 4'' Prima Official Game Guide, it is described as a mining vessel. Therefore, it should stay that way. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 23:35, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:::::::The description belongs in the content, not the title. You don't name John-117 as Spartan-II John-117 now, do you?— [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 23:39, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:(''reset indent'') No, I don't. I'm just saying, it is not descriptive enough. Please, I'm not trying to start an edit war or anything. What's wrong with the way it is? Why bother changing it? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 23:43, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
::What edit war? So far, we've been quite civil. Anywho, CFM-88 is just as descriptive as FFG-127: CFM is a classification for a mining vessel whereas FFG is for a frigate. And I just told you why I think the article needs a rename in my first post. :/ — [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 23:48, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
:::Okay, yeah, I guess it won't hurt. But still, let's not be hasty, and let others have their say too. Let's not jump the gun just yet. Savvy? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 23:52, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:I agree with the rename. When we have anything resembling an official title, it's useless to include any extra words (especially the redundant "unidentified" - we know it's unidentified from the lack of a proper name). All of our other articles for ships that have not been named but whose hull classification symbols are known ([[FFG-127]], [[DD-993]], [[ONI PRO-49776]]) follow a similar format, so I don't see why this article should be any different. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:34, 15 June 2013 (EDT)
::Very well. If it must be so, then so be it. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:00, 15 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
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