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Is there a pic of them?--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 10:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC) | Is there a pic of them?--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 10:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Or a page number if it's only in the book? --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 17:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC) | :Or a page number if it's only in the book? --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 17:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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:*What page is it mentioned? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | :*What page is it mentioned? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
*when they get back to reach and there disscribing the ships.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 13:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | *when they get back to reach and there disscribing the ships.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 13:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
**On page 167 of [[Halo: First Strike]].-- [[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 16:24, | **On page 167 of [[Halo: First Strike]].-- [[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 16:24, 05 December 2006 | ||
== This is a [[Covenant CAR-class heavy cruiser]]! == | == This is a [[Covenant CAR-class heavy cruiser]]! == | ||
* '''Merge''' - This is just a differnt version of the [[Covenant CAR-class heavy cruiser]], it should be merged with the covenant cruser. --[[User:Darth nexes|Darth nexes]] 19:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)darth Nexes | * '''Merge''' - This is just a differnt version of the [[Covenant CAR-class heavy cruiser]], it should be merged with the covenant cruser. --[[User:Darth nexes|Darth nexes]] 19:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)darth Nexes | ||
* '''Delete''' - If this is fan fiction then there is no point keeping it. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 23:56, 8 November 2006 (UTC) | * '''Delete''' - If this is fan fiction then there is no point keeping it. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 23:56, 8 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
*'''Strong Keep''' - It is mentioned in ''First Strike''. However, there's no evidence that it is a ''CAR''-class.'''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]] | *'''Strong Keep''' - It is mentioned in ''First Strike''. However, there's no evidence that it is a ''CAR''-class.'''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 03:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
:*What page is it mentioned? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | :*What page is it mentioned? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
::*Anyway, I can not cite the exact apge that liststhe existence of the C.L.C., but I remember seeing, "...there were also two light cruisers at the bottom of the gravity well, so they were not a threat to [[Cortana|her]]." This is when John and the others storm Reach to find his missing Spartans. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]] | ::*Anyway, I can not cite the exact apge that liststhe existence of the C.L.C., but I remember seeing, "...there were also two light cruisers at the bottom of the gravity well, so they were not a threat to [[Cortana|her]]." This is when John and the others storm Reach to find his missing Spartans. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 13:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
:::*If we can get confirmation of this, then we can remove the Dispute and move on to the other ship "classifications" -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 14:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | :::*If we can get confirmation of this, then we can remove the Dispute and move on to the other ship "classifications" -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 14:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
*'''DELETE''' the actual text from HFS, "...there were also two Battlecruisers at the bottom of the gravity well, so they were not a threat to [[Cortana|her]]." -- [[User:Fist of Rukt|Fist of Rukt]] 04:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC) | *'''DELETE''' the actual text from HFS, "...there were also two Battlecruisers at the bottom of the gravity well, so they were not a threat to [[Cortana|her]]." -- [[User:Fist of Rukt|Fist of Rukt]] 04:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
**Well well well...perhaps either your copy is radically different from mine or that our eyes are different. Someone do us a favor and check. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]'' | **Well well well...perhaps either your copy is radically different from mine or that our eyes are different. Someone do us a favor and check. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 21:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
*'''Strong Keep''' Actually, the text reads "Two exceptions to this patrol pattern were a pair of light cruisers hovering over Menachite Mountain". The text can be found on page 167 (beginning of chapter 18) in [[Halo: First Strike]]. Prior to this, it mentions heavy cruisers ("There were a total of thirteen heavy cruisers and three carriers moving three hundred kilometers above the surface of the planet." also page 167 [[Halo: First Strike]]) thus differentiating the light cruiser from the CAR-class heavy cruiser. -- [[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 16:24, | *'''Strong Keep''' Actually, the text reads "Two exceptions to this patrol pattern were a pair of light cruisers hovering over Menachite Mountain". The text can be found on page 167 (beginning of chapter 18) in [[Halo: First Strike]]. Prior to this, it mentions heavy cruisers ("There were a total of thirteen heavy cruisers and three carriers moving three hundred kilometers above the surface of the planet." also page 167 [[Halo: First Strike]]) thus differentiating the light cruiser from the CAR-class heavy cruiser. -- [[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 16:24, 05 December 2006 | ||
**So anyway...I don't hear anyone arguing, and the text I posted is rather clear, so I'm going to remove the fact or fiction from the article. I'll leave the discussion intact, and if you think I made the wrong decision, just put it back.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 16:29, | **So anyway...I don't hear anyone arguing, and the text I posted is rather clear, so I'm going to remove the fact or fiction from the article. I'll leave the discussion intact, and if you think I made the wrong decision, just put it back.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 16:29, 06 December 2006 | ||
*'''STRONG KEEP''' - The ''Covenant Light Cruiser'' was actually mentioned ''twice'' that I know of so far. The one mentioned so far, and again on FS p. | *'''STRONG KEEP''' - The ''Covenant Light Cruiser'' was actually mentioned ''twice'' that I know of so far. The one mentioned so far, and again on FS p. 205, near the bottom, and gives a short discription, too. --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 19:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Wrong picture == | == Wrong picture == | ||
That is a picture of an [[Assault Carrier]]. [[User:Halofan|<font color="Green">ĦДĿΘFáЙ</font>]] | That is a picture of an [[Assault Carrier]]. [[User:Halofan|<font color="Green">ĦДĿΘFáЙ</font>]] [[Image:Legendary.jpg|30px]] [[User talk: Halofan|<font color="Red">"And another grunt</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halofan|Bites the dust"]][[Image:Haloforgheisonvv4.gif|40px]] 10:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
I changed it. [[User:Halofan|<font color="Green">ĦДĿΘFáЙ</font>]] | I changed it. [[User:Halofan|<font color="Green">ĦДĿΘFáЙ</font>]] [[Image:Legendary.jpg|30px]] [[User talk: Halofan|<font color="Red">"ДňḌ áиŐТЋéṜ ĜŗŲṆṭ</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halofan|bίТËṣ тḤє ḌŲšт"]] 08:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Light Cruiser role == | == Light Cruiser role == | ||
The term "light cruiser" is a shortening of "light armoured cruiser" - the "light" doesn't refer to actual size at all, but rather signifies that the ship simply has less armour and smaller calibre cannons, and in exchange benefits from superior speed and manoeuvrability. Its entirely possible, therefore, for a cruiser, battlecruiser and heavy cruiser to all share the same basic external hull, but still retain dramatically different combat roles. -- | {{Quote|The ''[[Halo Encyclopedia]]'' uses an image of a [[CCS-class Battlecruiser]] in its entry for the Covenant Light Cruiser. While this is most likely an error, it's possible that the Light Cruiser is merely a scaled down version of the CCS-class.|Anonymous IP 24.147.62.26}} | ||
The term "light cruiser" is a shortening of "light armoured cruiser" - the "light" doesn't refer to actual size at all, but rather signifies that the ship simply has less armour and smaller calibre cannons, and in exchange benefits from superior speed and manoeuvrability. Its entirely possible, therefore, for a cruiser, battlecruiser and heavy cruiser to all share the same basic external hull, but still retain dramatically different combat roles. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]]</b> - <i><b><u>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]</u></b></i> 08:51, December 11, 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Battle of Chi Ceti== | ==Battle of Chi Ceti== | ||
This battle, as depicted in TFoR, indicates the ship that attacked the UNSC Frigate ''Commonwealth'' was but a third its size. We know the light cruiser to be 300 meters, and as far as we know, the frigate is 478 meters (last I read). This puts the ''Unrelenting'' at approximately two thirds the size of the ''Commonwealth''. Is this just a mishap in the novel perhaps? This information seemingly comes from the Halo Encyclopeda, so I trust it to be right. [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 04:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | This battle, as depicted in TFoR, indicates the ship that attacked the UNSC Frigate ''Commonwealth'' was but a third its size. We know the light cruiser to be 300 meters, and as far as we know, the frigate is 478 meters (last I read). This puts the ''Unrelenting'' at approximately two thirds the size of the ''Commonwealth''. Is this just a mishap in the novel perhaps? This information seemingly comes from the Halo Encyclopeda, so I trust it to be right. [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 04:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Halo Encyclopedia | :Halo Encyclopedia is full of errors. Unfortunately, we had to follow it. <b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 04:48, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I'll go with it then, a light cruiser is a good description for the vessel anyway. [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 04:52, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | :I'll go with it then, a light cruiser is a good description for the vessel anyway. [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 04:52, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I know. One of the most obvious errors was when it contradicted itself on the same damn page (Mgalekgolo section). Seriously it seems the editor didn't even notice that less than 6 inches away the book gave contradicting information. As some one else stated, a light, heavy, and stock cruiser (or any ship type for that matter) isn't determined by size, but by the amount of armor and weaponry it has or sacrifices for greater mobility.--[[User talk:Zervziel|Zervziel]] 03:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | ::I know. One of the most obvious errors was when it contradicted itself on the same damn page (Mgalekgolo section). Seriously it seems the editor didn't even notice that less than 6 inches away the book gave contradicting information. As some one else stated, a light, heavy, and stock cruiser (or any ship type for that matter) isn't determined by size, but by the amount of armor and weaponry it has or sacrifices for greater mobility.--[[User talk:Zervziel|Zervziel]] 03:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | ||