Editing Talk:Veronica Dare

==Untitled==
This is da main antagonist right?--[[User talk:GEARS OF WAR 2|Unreal Admin]] 04:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

:No, and that "female as the villian" was a April Fools Joke from me and Subtank. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig}}

Number Six? Frakin' awesome. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 08:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

:I would lulz if her issued uniform is the "red" dress. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig}}

The article mentions Katee Sackhoff as well. What role does she play, or is this speculation? The reference also only links to pre-E3 trailers, which from what I've seen have little to do with the actual game. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

:Katee Sackhoff only played a Marine in the original ''Halo 3'', and she is unconfirmed for ''ODST''. As for all of the references, the pre-E3 trailer from GTTV is where Tricia Helfer (and I was praying for a BSG game) announced her role. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig}}

So, I assume this Dare would be the commanding officer overlooking Rookie's mission to find other ODST members and giving him advice and so?- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 11:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

==Unnamed Armor==
The article states that her armor hasn't been identified yet.  If so, why is there a picture of recon-ish armor on the page?  Where did the picture come from, and is it actually a picture of Dare?  [[User talk:Arcdash|Arcdash]] 16:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:No, I completely made it up for the lulz. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig}}
The pic is from GTTV's sneak peek at MSoft's booth which is ''Halo 3: ODST'' centric and even shows another ODST behind the one with the SMG (who is supposedly the main protagonist of the game, the [[The Rookie|Rookie]]). - [[User: Lemurwolf132|Lemurwolf132]]


==XD==

The pictures of dare make it look like the recon helmet as just photoshoped onto odst Armour XD.

==Cat/Kat==

In the opening cutscene of ODST, Veronica says, "Call me Kat," I am not sure if she was just flirting with Buck, or referring to a nickname of hers. Any expansion upon this? Thx,
{{EM Sig}}

:I'm pretty sure she says "Call me Captain". --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 00:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


::What you heard was "Kat/Cat/Kap" = "'''Cap'''", "'''Cap'''tain". {{User:SoH/Sig}}

==Her real name?==
I think her realm name is Veronica, not "Meronica".
:It is. Buck says the "v" pretty  quickly, but it is definately not Meronica. That's no western name I've ever heard of.--[[User talk:Spartan999|Spartan999]] 21:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it's a result of 500 years of social evolution?[[User talk:Baryon15|Baryon15]] 11:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:That could be a possibility as even now kids are saying things i dont rly understand half the time and who knows what they will be saying 500 years from now--[[User talk:Ashing shot|Ashing shot]] 12:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

::With the possible exception of "yoan gahn dur tzan sze", they haven't really done that, though. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 05:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Classified==

I had really question why she doesn't have the information from Bungie.net and I had only checked the one of Buck and I saw the information and the only thing that isn't calssified is her gender:

DARE
Full name: [classified]<div>
Blood type: [classified]<div>
Height: [classified]<div>
Weight: [classified]<div>


Rating: [classified]<div>
Unit: [classified]<div>
Service number: [classified]<div>
Enlistment date: [classified]<div>
Location: [classified]<div>


Born: [classified]<div>
Gender: F<div>
Citizen: [classified]<div>
Age: [classified]<div>
Occupation: [classified]<div>

{{Flood12345 Sign}}

As a member of the Office of Naval Intelligence, her files would neccessarily be classified to exclude those without access. And since the Story Bible is written in-universe, that's what Bungie give us. As for why her gender isn't classified, I think it would be pretty obvious she's a "she", so there'd be little point classifying that. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== How does she do it? ==

How can she use Powered Armor if only Spartans have the reflexes and endurance to use them without hurting themselves? [[User talk:Sonictheblade|Sonictheblade]] 04:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

:If you look at it carefully you see that what she's really wearing isn't powered armor. It's really just normal body armor with a special Recon-style helmet.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|18px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">Rusty</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">-</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">112</font>]] 04:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Is it just me, or does she resemble The Boss from Metal Gear Solid 3?

:I can see a small resemblence.[[User talk:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] 21:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

::There is a small resemblance, but Dare is modeled after her voice actor, Tricia Helfer. [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 11:06, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary ==
I don't think this is her for firefight, as Bungie stated they hadn't talked about or mentioned the character for beating legendary, I think it is '''Spoiler Do not go furthur if you don't want be spoiled'''

The Engineer, who sides with the Squad.--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Hunter on Steriods]] 14:23, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

:Why would it be him? It would look weird seeing him wield human and Covenant weapons. Also, the leaked achivements comfirms it's Dare. [[User talk:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] 17:20, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 
It would be cool, but oh will, and could you give me a link?--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Hunter on Steriods]] 22:33, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

== Profile pic ==

Hey I love that picture for Dare on the page could somebody tell me who put it there?
--[[User talk:Orbital ODST|Orbital ODST]] 15:30, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

:Yo. --[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 01:16, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

== Navy or Marine Captain? ==

Is there any actual proof that she's a Navy Captain, and not a marine one? Sure, it's said she's with ONI, but for all we know she could be a marine/ODST employed by ONI (which would better explain her apparent adaptability with the HEV and it'd have been more likely for her and Buck to meet and get mixed up together in that relationship they had in the past), kinda like Ackerson was a part of the army but worked for ONI. Also, I find it highly unlikely that a navy captain (who command ships) would be sent to carry out a simple fetch quest together with NCO marines. (Note: I haven't unlocked Dare yet in Firefight, so I may be missing something).

[[User talk:Matt-256|Matt-256]] 22:24, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

:I'm not exactly sure. I thought she was a Marine Captain myself, but I don't have the game, so I dunno. By the way, Jacob Keyes was a Naval Captain, and he accompanied some Marines to a [[343 Guilty Spark (Level)|swamp]] to fetch a [[Flood|weapons cache]]... so apparently, if Dare IS a Naval Captain, it isn't that unusual. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 01:09, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, like back in the 1800's. Navy crew would often accompany Marines on raids and what not. Many of those raids where personaly lead by the ships Captain or Lieutenant who would both the crew and Marines. Just adding that on.--'''<span style="background:Brown;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%">[[User:Arabsbananas|<font color="White">CR8ZY-ArAB</font>]]</span>''' 01:47, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

:::In the case of Keyes...what else was there to do? The Autumn had crashed, and it seemed Silva was managing things pretty well up until he had the bright idea to leave the Flood onboard the Truth and Reconciliation. Chances are she's a Marine working as an ONI field operative-look at Colonel Ackerson, he was Army yet had a pretty decent post in ONI. Plus why waste an O-6 on ground work when you can have them commanding a Prowler?

Veronica looks rather young to be a Navy Captain. It takes a long time to be a Navy Captain. People dont usually get to be a Navy captain in their fourties! On other other hand, Marine Captain is only 0-3 while a Navy Captain is almost an Admiral!

Well remember, she is ONI AKA office of NAVAL intellegince. and its sorta like ODSTs are half navy/half marine.cause they drop in ships.[[User talk:SPARTAN-III leader|SPARTAN-III leader]] 03:01, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

: ODSt's are not Navy though, their are a subsection of the Marines, similar to Marine Avaiators [[File:80.png|20px]] '''[[User:Arabsbananas|<span style="color:Red; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">El Ammo Bandito,</span><span style="color:Yellow; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap"> "¡Para todas sus necesidades destructivas!"</span>]]''' 03:03, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
::Although the UNSC Marine Corps is technically under the authority of the UNSC Navy, and we do have examples of Marines working in ONI. -- [[User talk:SFH|SFH]] 22:48, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
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== say what? ==

Ok,I don't get it.Is Dare's whole armour Recon or just her helmet.Is that what female ODST body armour looks like or what.I guess it would be hard to know as no female ODST's are ever seen in-game--[[Special:Contributions/4.153.71.65|4.153.71.65]] 00:01, December 11, 2009 (UTC)Lance Corporal Phy-ODST
:Uh, I doubt female and male ODSTs would normally wear different armor or helmets. Dare's an ONI operative. That's why she wears specialized armor. It's not the same "recon" as the Armor permutation, it's only a similar variant of the ODST armor.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 06:42, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

== captain/ veronica ==

do u ppl ever use sub titles? i use them whenever i get the chance and they said both captain and veronica not kat or meronica ok?

== Her Height ==

Hey where did you get that she was 5'7? - Anon

== How did Escape? == 
Okay, just out of curiosity. How the heck did she get out of her pod and close the hatch if she was trapped in it?[[User talk:T-rex-king|T-rex-king]] 11:09, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is just speculation, but maybe the [[Engineer]] helped her out and then closed it back up so the Covies would think she's still inside? I mean, think about it. A member of a pacifistic alien slave race decides to help out the "enemy" so that maybe this human could help to free his race from his Covenant masters.--[[User talk:TK 234|One  who survived]] 19:37, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

:Or, she got out already, and the Engineer "fixed" the pod, changing it into its original state, which is the closed form. I don't know why Dare didn't tell Buck.—<span style="color:silver;">[[User:Spartan331|S331]]</span><sub>[[User talk:Spartan331|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Contributions]]</sub> 20:59, 4 April 2011 (EDT)
::Maybe because the Engineer took her helmet at the same time and she couldn't radio him?[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 04:11, 5 April 2011 (EDT)

== ''Say My Name'' ==
Where is it mentioned canonically that she's attached to the UNSC ''Say My Name''? I was under the impression she was attached to a prowler in-system, perhaps even participating in the battle, found out about the ''Tokyo Rules''-intercepted transmission from the Superintendent, and traveled to the UNSC ''Say My Name'' specifically to acquire the services of Sgt. Buck and his ODSTs for the recon drop. I expect that Buck and the squad was assigned to the ''Say My Name'', but I'm very surprised to see on Halopedia that Dare was assumed to be assigned to it as well. Where does this data point originate? Am I missing something? [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 12:09, 9 June 2013 (EDT)

:That's a good point. The bit about her assignment to ''Say My Name'' has been removed. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 14:29, 9 June 2013 (EDT)
:I can't say with 100% certainty, but I have a strong recollection of it being mentioned in Dare's Firefight character profile. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:37, 9 June 2013 (EDT)
:: Without an actual annotation, it's considered speculation, correct, and not to be included in main text of an article? I'm not fully versed on what constitutes canon here. I'll kick open ODST later and have a look. (I do believe those bios in the game erroneously refer to the ''Say My Name'' as a frigate or something incorrect anyway. :) ) Anyhoo, it's news to me if that's the case. If it was commonly known, I'd have expected an annotation, not just an assertion. Regardless, to me it wouldn't make sense: If Buck and Dare had both been on assignment to the UNSC ''Say My Name'', then the opening cutscene reactions wouldn't have seemed like they hadn't seen one another for a while, the rest of the ODST squad wouldn't have been reacting to her as someone they hadn't met before, and the captain of the ''Say My Name'' wouldn't have reacted to her as he did if she was already stationed aboard his ship. It doesn't add up in my opinion. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 16:18, 9 June 2013 (EDT)
:::Found it: ''"Most of her dossier is classified, but Dare is a known Naval Academy Graduate and former Intel Officer on the heavy frigate 'Say My Name', one of two ships from the Harvest campaign still in service. Dare is now assigned to ONI Section One."'' (as seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jok7g1_mMSE here]). But you're definitely right in that this one should've been properly cited; that would've helped avert this confusion. Anyways, as for Buck and Dare not meeting each other for some time before the events of ''ODST'', the bio provides a reasonable answer: it's noted that she is a ''former'' Intelligence Officer on the ''Say My Name'', meaning that she could've held that post any number of years earlier, before Buck's squad or even the then-current captain was assigned to the ship. The ship is indeed mistakenly referred to as a heavy frigate, though I think this can be forgiven as a typo or a relic from an earlier stage in the game's production - maybe the ''SMN'' was originally supposed to be a frigate? --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:25, 14 June 2013 (EDT)