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== Rtas 'Vadum? == | == Rtas 'Vadum? == | ||
This is unlikely I admit but from adding up most of the information; [[Rtas 'Vadum]] has the highest chance of being this [[Sangheili]] because they were both [[Shipmaster]]s at around that time and both commanded an [[Assault Carrier]] (because the Assault Carrier in [[The Return]] hasn't got a given name it is safe to assume the carrier is the [[Shadow of Intent]]). The only retcon is that the Sangheili doesn't have a missing mandible to fix that; ''The mandible could have been replaced in over six years''. ('''NOTE''': ''This is a speculation so this is '''not''' a merge proposal but it is to give everyone's opinions.'') --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 14:00, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | This is unlikely I admit but from adding up most of the information; [[Rtas 'Vadum]] has the highest chance of being this [[Sangheili]] because they were both [[Shipmaster]]s at around that time and both commanded an [[Assault Carrier]] (because the Assault Carrier in [[The Return]] hasn't got a given name it is safe to assume the carrier is the [[Shadow of Intent]]). The only retcon is that the Sangheili doesn't have a missing mandible to fix that; ''The mandible could have been replaced in over six years''. ('''NOTE''': ''This is a speculation so this is '''not''' a merge proposal but it is to give everyone's opinions.'') -->[[File:Captain Grade One.png|25px]] '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>([[UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 14:00, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:[[HGN]] revealed that Rtas was previously a Specops Officer before he became a Specops Commander in H2, and Shipmaster in H3.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 15:42, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | :[[HGN]] revealed that Rtas was previously a Specops Officer before he became a Specops Commander in H2, and Shipmaster in H3.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 15:42, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::But at what date exactly did [[Halo Graphic Novel]] say that he was a Specops Officer? If the date is not confirmed then we could say (if confirmed that it is Rtas 'Vadum) that he was a Specops Officer '''after''' [[2539]] in which Rtas could have been demoted after the [[Battle of Kholo]] but what about the [[Fall of Reach]]? Well it doesn't confirm that he was truely a [[Shipmaster]] then but when I get to that story of [[Halo: Evolutions - Essential Tales of the Halo Universe|Halo: Evolutions]] and I will tell you if it says that he was a Shipmaster during the ''Fall of Reach''. --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 16:06, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ::But at what date exactly did [[Halo Graphic Novel]] say that he was a Specops Officer? If the date is not confirmed then we could say (if confirmed that it is Rtas 'Vadum) that he was a Specops Officer '''after''' [[2539]] in which Rtas could have been demoted after the [[Battle of Kholo]] but what about the [[Fall of Reach]]? Well it doesn't confirm that he was truely a [[Shipmaster]] then but when I get to that story of [[Halo: Evolutions - Essential Tales of the Halo Universe|Halo: Evolutions]] and I will tell you if it says that he was a Shipmaster during the ''Fall of Reach''. -->[[File:Captain Grade One.png|25px]] '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>([[UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 16:06, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::He has been confirmed to be a Specops Officer/Commander in 2552. It would be helpful if you refer to [[Last Voyage of the Infinite Succor]].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:09, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | :::He has been confirmed to be a Specops Officer/Commander in 2552. It would be helpful if you refer to [[Last Voyage of the Infinite Succor]].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:09, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::He could have been demoted sometime after '''2539'''. But I mean as in what part of the timeline was he a Specops Officer (say something like: ''"he was a Specops Officer from 25-- to [[2552]]"'') so that I know when he was promoted to Specops Officer (or demoted in my point of view because I mean as in when did he '''become''' a Specops Officer) and I want you to tell the truth. --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 16:30, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ::::He could have been demoted sometime after '''2539'''. But I mean as in what part of the timeline was he a Specops Officer (say something like: ''"he was a Specops Officer from 25-- to [[2552]]"'') so that I know when he was promoted to Specops Officer (or demoted in my point of view because I mean as in when did he '''become''' a Specops Officer) and I want you to tell the truth. -->[[File:Captain Grade One.png|25px]] '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>([[UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 16:30, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::For the first point of the your first comment, like you said; that is total speculation. Indeed that he would be one of the most suitable Sangheili to have such rank early on but that, again, is total speculation. All we know ('''facts''') is that he was a Specops Officer by 2552 and later promoted to Shipmaster by H3. His earlier history is a complete mystery to all of us. Therefore, there is nothing we can conclude from the current limited amount of sources. - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:45, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | :::::For the first point of the your first comment, like you said; that is total speculation. Indeed that he would be one of the most suitable Sangheili to have such rank early on but that, again, is total speculation. All we know ('''facts''') is that he was a Specops Officer by 2552 and later promoted to Shipmaster by H3. His earlier history is a complete mystery to all of us. Therefore, there is nothing we can conclude from the current limited amount of sources. - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:45, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::Ok how about you throw in your ideas (and other users that might have some idea who it is) so that we can build up enough evidence to see which Sangheili he is. If not then we will have to wait for a confirmation of his true name. Since no one has given their ideas then I am gonna stick with mine until further information. ;-) --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 16:52, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::Ok how about you throw in your ideas (and other users that might have some idea who it is) so that we can build up enough evidence to see which Sangheili he is. If not then we will have to wait for a confirmation of his true name. Since no one has given their ideas then I am gonna stick with mine until further information. ;-) -->[[File:Captain Grade One.png|25px]] '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>([[UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 16:52, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::::Ah, theories. It would be best to just keep it to ourselves, thus avoiding potential uproars/theory-war, and be patient for the official answers. ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:58, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | :::::::Ah, theories. It would be best to just keep it to ourselves, thus avoiding potential uproars/theory-war, and be patient for the official answers. ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:58, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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==Naming== | ==Naming== | ||
Despite the current name "Unidentified Sangheili Shipmaster", the current "link" to this page is "Unidentified Shipmaster (Righteous Vigilance)" (without counting the redirect pages). Does anyone else think that it would be better to simply have "Unidentified Sangheili Shipmaster" ? (which currently doesn't exist as a page nor as a redirect) It wouldn't be very ambiguous, even if we removed the fleet's name. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:25, 15 July 2013 (EDT) | Despite the current name "Unidentified Sangheili Shipmaster", the current "link" to this page is "Unidentified Shipmaster (Righteous Vigilance)" (without counting the redirect pages). Does anyone else think that it would be better to simply have "Unidentified Sangheili Shipmaster" ? (which currently doesn't exist as a page nor as a redirect) It wouldn't be very ambiguous, even if we removed the fleet's name. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:25, 15 July 2013 (EDT) | ||