Editing Talk:Unidentified Sangheili Field Marshal

I recall that several years ago this exact page was made and it was removed because there wasn't deemed to have enough evidence that it was the same Field Marshal, or much information about the character at all. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 13:32, 28 November 2015 (EST)
:I think you're right. We don't really know if it's the same character. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 16:42, 25 December 2015 (EST)

:Same. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 17:01, 25 December 2015 (EST)

While it may very well not be the same Field Marshal, we have to assume the point that they made a Field Marshal appear in the beggining of the game, then kill Kat, then send his Zealots to kill Emile cannot be a pure coincidence just because they never explicitly said so. Why throw a Field Marshal through the game, make it a "big deal" that he was responsible for two deaths of your teammates (as well as trying to kill you in the first playable level) if they did not intended the Field Marshal seen through the game was one individual. 

Besides, it was mentioned in Halo: Reach's Legendary Commentary that the Field Marshal who killed Kat was said to be "after something that they know," which hints that it is possibly the same Field Marshal that attacked Noble in the first mission and then maybe the penultimate. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inIxRwTzajc (Skip to 09:06). Also, notice how they say THE "Zealot Commander" (which is the Field Marshal).

[[User:Draft227|Draft227]] 20:27, 25 December 2015 (EST)

:''"Some Field Marshals lead small strike teams comprised of Zealots for operations that require both skill and precision. These operations are generally intended to search for and retrieve artifacts of value to their religion, or to eliminate targets to turn the tide of battles''"
:We are already aware the he or they were after something, most likely the Forerunner objects that Rho 'Barutamee was after, we still have no confirmation on that it is the same, remember there were two Supreme commanders at Reach, it would not be crazy to think they only had one Field Marshal between them. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 17:57, 25 December 2015 (EST)
::But we must remember the first Field Marshal never died, and since his work was on ground, he most likely wasn't gone alongside Rho (and we most also remember that Rho's command was passed to Kantar 'Utaralee, so it's pretty possible the Field Marshal started working for him). Also, as I stated, the developers say "THE Zealot Commander, as opposed to "a Zealot Commander", further implying it was THE same one we met before. And we must also remember, from the narrative standpoint, him being the same would make the more sense. 
Even if that isn't confirmation someone should ask Grim about this somewhere. The page should stay until we hear his response about it. [[User:Draft227|Draft227]] 21:14, 25 December 2015 (EST)

Also remember there are in fact two Field Marshals in the campaign, but yes we need a response from someone, what to do with the page in the mean time should be decided. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 18:18, 25 December 2015 (EST)

:True, true, the one at the end of the game. I assume the one who possible tracked them is the one killed, because it seemed he was particularly tracking Noble and their knowledge on important Human information. Yeah, we should, but I don't know. Should we add it is a page who lacks citation and leave it here? [[User:Draft227|Draft227]] 21:23, 25 December 2015 (EST)

[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Unnamed_Sangheili_Field_Marshall Why we deleted this in 2010]. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  07:27, 28 December 2015 (EST)

:I still think we should perhaps ask Grim confirmation and keep the page. Keep it because there is more to led they are the same rather than otherwise. And as I mentioned, the devs said on the Legendary doccumentary "The Zealot Commander", not "a Zealot Commander", which heavily implies, if not confirm in a capacity, this is the same guy we saw at Visegrad Relay. [[User:Draft227|Draft227]] 12:21, 28 December 2015 (EST)

Actually, it does nothing of the sort considering how that could easily have been just a normal Zealot commanding the local forces. I suggest we do the same as back in 2010, delete the article while awaiting a answer. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 18:34, 28 December 2015 (EST)

:It wasn't. It was a Field Marshal, and we know this for years now. [[User:Draft227|Draft227]] 12:31, 29 December 2015 (EST)

:Still doesn't change things, we do not know who it was and we know of two Field Marshals. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 07:16, 1 January 2016 (EST)

::Yes, one who is more than likely the same (until the penutlimate mission) as shown by the Legendary Edition's commentary and the other who killed Noble Six. Still doesn't change the comments of him being THE Zealot Commander, in other words THE Field Marshal, the same we met in the beggining of the game. We should keep the page until someone here asks Grim, because there is more indications the Field Marshals being the same rather than being different. [[User:Draft227|Draft227]] 14:49 1 January 2015 (EST)

:Actually there isn't, just because you keep saying THE Zealot commander doesn't mean it will change, in the video the commenters do not emphasize "the" he just saids the Zealot Commander because it was a Zealot commander and we are aware there are two Marshals on Reach since the mission New Alexandria, besides the fact that NOTHING has changed since the 2010 deletion information wise, so can we please get a decision from a higher up on this. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 18:27, 1 January 2016 (EST)
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 :Actually there isn't, just because you keep saying THE Zealot commander doesn't mean it will change, in the video the commenters do not emphasize "the" he just saids the Zealot Commander because it was a Zealot commander and we are aware there are two Marshals on Reach since the mission New Alexandria, besides the fact that NOTHING has changed since the 2010 deletion information wise, so can we please get a decision from a higher up on this. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 18:27, 1 January 2016 (EST)
-::I'm one of those. While I personally would like to think it's the same Field Marshal, it's best to avoid speculation of any kind. It might be best to delete this page until we have more evidence that the Field Marshals are the same guy. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 21:13, 1 January 2016 (EST)
-:::The same. I also think it's the same Field Marshall but despite that there's not much we can put on the page aside from just basic "he was at this place" info. Maybe a future Canon Fodder might have information on this guy, but until then it's almost a stub. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:36, 1 January 2016 (EST)