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==Possible Reversal of Opinion== | ==Possible Reversal of Opinion== | ||
After seeing page 131 in my Halo 3 walkthrough book, and seeing a picture and talk of Ultra Grunts, I decided to go on the hunt for them myself, because I am not above changing my opinion based on new evidence. After a long time of searching on various different gametypes and with certain skulls activated, I managed to get a shot of what I believe to be two of those elusive Ultra Grunts. | After seeing page 131 in my Halo 3 walkthrough book, and seeing a picture and talk of Ultra Grunts, I decided to go on the hunt for them myself, because I am not above changing my opinion based on new evidence. After a long time of searching on various different gametypes and with certain skulls activated, I managed to get a shot of what I believe to be two of those elusive Ultra Grunts. | ||
I will not fully believe this until we find a clear shot of Spec Ops grunts to, but this is worrisome because it proves that the Bungie.net guide can be wrong if this is right: | I will not fully believe this until we find a clear shot of Spec Ops grunts to, but this is worrisome because it proves that the Bungie.net guide can be wrong if this is right: | ||
[[Image:Halo_3_Ultra_Grunts.jpg|900px]] | |||
That is a very convincing image if I do say so myself, though they seem to have a slightly pinkish, duller hue compared to the frosty silver of the Halo 2 ultra grunts, but I am not fully convinced until we find a clear picture of a spec ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | That is a very convincing image if I do say so myself, though they seem to have a slightly pinkish, duller hue compared to the frosty silver of the Halo 2 ultra grunts, but I am not fully convinced until we find a clear picture of a spec ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Name of Article== | |||
In all sources that I have seen, including the walkthrough, Grunts are reffered to with their title last, unlike Elites. For example "Grunt Ultra" rather then "Ultra Grunt", as per page 131 of the guide. I think we need to look into this. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | In all sources that I have seen, including the walkthrough, Grunts are reffered to with their title last, unlike Elites. For example "Grunt Ultra" rather then "Ultra Grunt", as per page 131 of the guide. I think we need to look into this. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Ultra Grunts are not in Halo 3, do not edit that== | ==Ultra Grunts are not in Halo 3, do not edit that== | ||
All evidence and my personal experience points to that. If you would like to post a (clear) screenshot of one in Halo 3, I will retract this statement and eat a boot on youtube. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 04:34, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | All evidence and my personal experience points to that. If you would like to post a (clear) screenshot of one in Halo 3, I will retract this statement and eat a boot on youtube. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 04:34, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
[[Image: White_grunt.jpg]] | |||
So yeah, about that boot eating thing....when will you do it? and haha! [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | So yeah, about that boot eating thing....when will you do it? and haha! [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Look at the main screenshot, not the smaller weirder lighter one with the weird pose. The above picture is an Ultra Grunt. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | Look at the main screenshot, not the smaller weirder lighter one with the weird pose. The above picture is an Ultra Grunt. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
:How can anyone tell? [[Special Operations Grunt]] and [[Ultra Grunt]] look virtually the same. Besides, why is it a big deal if they're in Halo 3 or not? They still suck and are easy to kill with one shot from carbine or BR. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]''''' | :How can anyone tell? [[Special Operations Grunt]] and [[Ultra Grunt]] look virtually the same. Besides, why is it a big deal if they're in Halo 3 or not? They still suck and are easy to kill with one shot from carbine or BR. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]'''''[[Image:Legendary.jpg|25px]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Squishy Vic|'''''talk''''']])</small></sup> 00:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
That is true... but i appear to be mistaken. I apologize for the trouble I've caused...[[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 00:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | That is true... but i appear to be mistaken. I apologize for the trouble I've caused...[[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 00:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Look here, http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=17778915. It shows the same looking Grunt and says it's SpecOps.. --<b>[[User:ChurchReborn|<font color="Red">C</font>]][[user talk:ChurchReborn|<font color="black">R</font>]]</b> | Look here, http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=17778915. It shows the same looking Grunt and says it's SpecOps.. --<b>[[User:ChurchReborn|<font color="Red">C</font>]][[user talk:ChurchReborn|<font color="black">R</font>]]</b> | ||
Yup. I just looked on my game history (for Campaign) on one of the Legendary levels and those grunts (that look like Ultra Grunts) are Special Operations Grunts. Therefore, they aren't in Halo 3. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]''''' | Yup. I just looked on my game history (for Campaign) on one of the Legendary levels and those grunts (that look like Ultra Grunts) are Special Operations Grunts. Therefore, they aren't in Halo 3. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]'''''[[Image:Legendary.jpg|25px]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Squishy Vic|'''''talk''''']])</small></sup> 01:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
And so, that picture up there is wrong... or ultra grunts don't exist at all... [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | And so, that picture up there is wrong... or ultra grunts don't exist at all... [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Thats what I thought! [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 01:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | Thats what I thought! [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 01:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
[[Image: Ultra_Grunt_Halo_3_ZUR.JPG|300px]] | |||
Go eat a boot! [[User:Zuranamee|Zuranamee]] 08:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | Go eat a boot! [[User:Zuranamee|Zuranamee]] 08:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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The very first picture is very obviously a spec ops grunt. That second picture is far too shitty to be able to tell anything. Pull up your campaign scoring from bungie and show me where it says you've killed an Ultra Grunt and I'll believe that shitty pic may be an ultra grunt. Though with that lighting and shitty quality it easily looks like a Spec Ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 06:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | The very first picture is very obviously a spec ops grunt. That second picture is far too shitty to be able to tell anything. Pull up your campaign scoring from bungie and show me where it says you've killed an Ultra Grunt and I'll believe that shitty pic may be an ultra grunt. Though with that lighting and shitty quality it easily looks like a Spec Ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 06:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
Oh man thats white f*cking white, do you want more proofs?? It cant be. You are pissing everyone here. [[User:Clavix2|<font color="Black">Clavix2</font>]] | Oh man thats white f*cking white, do you want more proofs?? It cant be. You are pissing everyone here. [[User:Clavix2|<font color="Black">Clavix2</font>]] [[Image:Halo2emblemClavix.jpg|30px]] <sup> [[User talk:Clavix2|<font color="Red">I WILL PAY FOR </font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Clavix2|<font color="Black"> ALL MY SINS </font>]]</sup> 06:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
Clavix: The campaign scoring doesn't lie... oh yeah, that pictue on the Grunt Ultra Page; looks just like a spec-ops grunt... maybe a spec-ops commander grunt? [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | Clavix: The campaign scoring doesn't lie... oh yeah, that pictue on the Grunt Ultra Page; looks just like a spec-ops grunt... maybe a spec-ops commander grunt? [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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In the book Halo 3: The Official Guide on page 131 at the lower right hand corner there are 6 grunts of different ranks around a sentence. The grunts in the top right and bottom left of these 6 grunts look like one being ultra and the other being spec ops. | In the book Halo 3: The Official Guide on page 131 at the lower right hand corner there are 6 grunts of different ranks around a sentence. The grunts in the top right and bottom left of these 6 grunts look like one being ultra and the other being spec ops. | ||
[[User:DilaBagomee|DilaBagomee]] 15:35, 08 July 2008 | [[User:DilaBagomee|DilaBagomee]] 15:35, 08 July 2008 | ||
==Controverseyz about teh Ultreh Gruntz== | ==Controverseyz about teh Ultreh Gruntz== | ||
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OK. This is what I believe. I don't care if anyone doesn't believe me, but I'll say this as clear as possible. First of all, the pictures do look like spec ops grunts and they look somewhat black in the game. The thing is, in Halo The First Strike, didn't they mention that the marines saw white armored grunts. From the Expierence of Halo 2, the Ultra Grunts are pure WHITE. Bungie could have noticed the mistake and switched the color of the armor in Halo 3 to a dark silver to show that they are not some form of laborers. They also however are NOT pure Black. SO THEY ARE NOT SPEC OPS! Also didn't somewhere, forgot where, Bungie said that Ultra grunts are SILVER, NOT WHITE! I don't know why the campaign scoring says that they are spec ops, but in the OFFICIAL strategy guide it specifically says that they are ultras. This would make sense because there are ultra brutes, but no spec ops brutes. In halo 1 and 2, Spec ops grunts were always led by spec ops elites. WHY IN HALO 3 WOULD SPEC OPS GRUNTS TRAVEL ALONE! Also the Thunderstorm skull makes everybody that is of the regular rank list their highest rank. NOT SPECIALIST RANKS! If these grunts weren't ultras, the thunderstorm skull would make all the minors, majors. PEOPLE, CAN YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING! PLEASE comment on this and paste it on my talk page as well so I know you answered, even if the comment is bad. I want to here from you. --[[User:HaloRocks!|HaloRocks!]] 00:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | OK. This is what I believe. I don't care if anyone doesn't believe me, but I'll say this as clear as possible. First of all, the pictures do look like spec ops grunts and they look somewhat black in the game. The thing is, in Halo The First Strike, didn't they mention that the marines saw white armored grunts. From the Expierence of Halo 2, the Ultra Grunts are pure WHITE. Bungie could have noticed the mistake and switched the color of the armor in Halo 3 to a dark silver to show that they are not some form of laborers. They also however are NOT pure Black. SO THEY ARE NOT SPEC OPS! Also didn't somewhere, forgot where, Bungie said that Ultra grunts are SILVER, NOT WHITE! I don't know why the campaign scoring says that they are spec ops, but in the OFFICIAL strategy guide it specifically says that they are ultras. This would make sense because there are ultra brutes, but no spec ops brutes. In halo 1 and 2, Spec ops grunts were always led by spec ops elites. WHY IN HALO 3 WOULD SPEC OPS GRUNTS TRAVEL ALONE! Also the Thunderstorm skull makes everybody that is of the regular rank list their highest rank. NOT SPECIALIST RANKS! If these grunts weren't ultras, the thunderstorm skull would make all the minors, majors. PEOPLE, CAN YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING! PLEASE comment on this and paste it on my talk page as well so I know you answered, even if the comment is bad. I want to here from you. --[[User:HaloRocks!|HaloRocks!]] 00:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Questions== | ==Questions== | ||
If anyone has an Ultra Unggoy question message me. (I'm a grunt fanatic!) :} | If anyone has an Ultra Unggoy question message me. (I'm a grunt fanatic!) :} | ||
[[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: teal">Ultra Grunt Mewai</span></b>]] | [[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: teal">Ultra Grunt Mewai</span></b>]] [[Image:Gruntiness.jpeg|20px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan 387|Comm]]</sup> 02:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC) | ||