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| | Someone said that the grunts can use magnums. This is not yet proven so it will not be put it. |
| | :I believe Dojorkan added most of those. He's a modder who's tested that kind of stuff out. You can find a lot of his screenshots at HBO. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 05:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| | Yes but modding shouldn't count for factual Grunt weapon compatibility in this wiki. In the Arbiter's level you can get Jackals to glitch and use carbines with a shield but that doesn't mean we should put it in their page. That goes for the Rocket Launcher to. Bungie never intended Grunts to use these in Halo 1 or 2. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| Did anyone else notice the glowing grunts in the five minute firefight that was set on Corvette. <span style="font-family: Halo3 ; Font-size: 135%; color:#800002;">FATGUNN</span> 02:05, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
| | Guess what, my bro. modded a multiplayer map and you could play as a Grunt. My brother is the master modder and I'm the master cheater. Also if it wasn't for my brother I wouldn't have been cheating and I would've never became the cheat master of Halo 2.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 14:21, 23 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| == Erroneous Height == | | ==Whats up with the whole Grunts speaking English thing?== |
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| The stats section states that a Grunt is 5'6 tall, and weighs well over 100kg. [http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline10/blamestosh/happy_halo3_78416926_Full.jpg Errmmm... No.] Regardless of the fact that it is a 'Blame Stosh' picture from the BWU, it still shows a grunt about half the size of a civilian human. That civilian is not 12 feet tall, nor is the grunt best part of 6. Grunts, going by that picture are around 3 feet tall. Where the hell did this "5'6" figure come from? Being 3ft tall, they will not be over 100kg either.[[User talk:Thebigyeash|Thebigyeash]] 14:22, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
| | Do they ever explain why the grunts speak English? |
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| :The image you linked is using perspectives to achieve that shot; the Grunt is farther while the civilian is closest to the camera. Also, the Halo Encyclopedia confirmed this. For more clarification, see [http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_characterscale/index.html?char1=GruntArmor1-H1&char2=ODST-H2 this].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 14:29, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
| | == Repetition == |
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| == Unusual event ==
| | Everything is repeated! that makes it very monotonous. Please read it from first to last and you will see what I mean. Some things are even repeated three times!--12.108.200.201 23:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC) |
| | :Yeah, I do see what you mean. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 00:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| I was playing firefight Reach when I found several spec ops grunts using plasma rifles. Glitch? Bug? Blahmarrow thinks not. So what was it?--[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 20:13, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
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| :I'd say its just a gameplay feature. It happens to me pretty frequently on coop, especially with Thunderstorm on. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:39, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
| | I edited the page to remove most of the repetition and rearranged the information into the appropriate categories. |
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| == Variants ==
| | [[User:Dark Lady|Dark Lady]] 00:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| Is it mentioned anywhere on the article that in the first Halo there were two different looking types of grunts (the ones with the straight pointing tanks and masks that go outwards to the sides, this being the type that also appeared in 2 and 3; and also the ones with curved tanks and masks that pointed more back)--[[User talk:Black kille|Black kille]] 21:28, 6 January 2011 (EST)
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| :Yeah - we call them "straightbacks" and "curlbacks". Bungie intended another variant to be in Combat evolved, the cylindral-shaped "flatbacks"-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 02:55, 7 January 2011 (EST) | | 4th paragraph [http://halosm.bungie.org/story/forerunner.html here]. Quote: |
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| | "Their relics are not restricted to Halo 04. The Aztec-esque stones of C'ort Azur, the arches and weathered inscriptions of Sigma Octanus, the intricate caverns and 3km holographic dome beneath ONI's Reach complex, <b>the ancient stepping-stones of the Grunt's homeworld</b>, and the Prophet's own claim to have evolved on an abandoned Forerunner planet, the revelation that their Ark (whatever that entails) exists on Earth, not to mention the countless installations undoubtedly pilfered to allow the Covenant to have achieved their current levels of technology, all give testament to this galaxy's permeation." |
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| == RvB: Animated ==
| | Anyone know, or feel like inquiring, where the HBO guys got this information? Or should we just trust it as canon, given their close relationship with Bungie? Apparently the Grunt homeworld bit was on the page as early as [http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive12.pl?read=337444 December 2003]. (The bit about the Ark was added well after Halo 2, though.) |
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| Why does the gallery still feature the image from ''Red versus Blue: Animated''? I removed it about a year ago, but it was restored. Doesn't it technically count as fan art? Rooster Teeth is ''not'' an official party. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 00:15, 13 January 2011 (EST)
| | Also: I guess it could have come from one of the strategy guides, since I haven't read those. |
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| == Curlback grunts ==
| | --Andrew Nagy [[User:68.44.13.236|68.44.13.236]] 04:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| Why is there no mention of them in the article any longer? [[User talk:mrsupersauce|mrsupersauce]] 01:27, 25 June 2011 (EST)
| | :Stepping stones are mentioned in Halo: The Flood, when the Grunt character dreams about his home, but I don't remember it being Forerunner. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 05:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| ==Unggoy Philosophies?== | | == Grunt Phrases == |
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| According to the ''Halo Encyclopedia'', one of the simple philosophies of the Unggoy is "When in doubt, flee!", but yet another simple philosophy from one of the Halo novels (not sure which one it is, nor can I remember), is "When in doubt, shoot!". If anyone could shed any light on this, like where did this other philosophy came from what book, and whatever else, and maybe someone could adjust or address the issue. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 21:36, 17 September 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
| | I once herd my Grunt sing and another time say "Arbiter, read me a story"--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 15:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| They say both of them. The latter one comes from Halo: The Flood (iirc, no?) and the former I believe came from Halo 3. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:45, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
| | :when you hit them sometimes they say"arbiter Friend". {{unsigned|72.184.71.233}} |
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| ==second, third or even fourth?==
| | In Halo 1, Grunts sometimes sing We Are the Champions after killing you. I've also heard something like "Awesome, guys! Cold Fusion on me!" --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 23:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| I'm sorry rereaded the phase... changed it back!--[[User talk:Bdgroot-117|Bdgroot-117]] 12:07, 23 December 2011 (EST) | | Actually this was in Halo 2 I don't really remember the whole thing but it ended with him singing this ..."with the Arbiter", this was on the Sacrid Icon level. Hey have you seen the Invidia trailer on Gametrailers.com? They were like "Not before we destroy you". I love those funny Grunts.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 14:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| | | We also call u b**t**d--[[User:Unggoy|Unggoy]] 16:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
| ==Inaccurate Main Image==
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| I'm reverting the main image, because it is of a [http://www.halopedia.org/Covenant_Storm Covenant Storm] grunt, and not a normal grunt. It does not represent the species as a whole. Even though it is our most recent image of a grunt, does not mean we need to use it. [[User talk:SUPPLYPAD COMPLETE|SUPPLYPAD COMPLETE]] 21:10, 15 August 2012 (EDT)
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| :Why? What makes it different than other Unggoy, other than wearing different armor? It's still an Unggoy, and the image is the most recent canonical image we have, so it should be used.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 21:58, 15 August 2012 (EDT)
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| ::Just look at them. One kind as an exoskeleton, the other has skin and scutes. They're different species.--[[User talk:Eipok Kruden|Eipok Kruden]] 05:27, 21 June, 2015 (PDT)
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| It's still kind of up in the air as to whether the Storm Grunts in Halo 4 are just redesigned Grunts or a sub-species/mutation - developers seem to be suggesting the latter. If so, they're sort of like Skirmishers - still Kig-Yar, just not the mainstream Kig-Yar [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 22:01, 15 August 2012 (EDT)
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| I agree with Spartacus. When the Elites were updated in Reach, so was their main image. Even though they were bulkier and meaner looking. It's still the same thing. The jackals in CE are still Jackals in Halo Reach. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 14:12, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
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| The interactive guide makes it clear that the Halo 4 grunts and just grunts.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 23:38, 29 October 2012 (EDT)
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| I agree that we should use the most recent depiction of the species, unless of course it is directly claimed by 343i that the Halo 4 Unggoy are a subspecies, which at this stage seems unlikely. --[[User talk:Cyrannian|Cyrannian]] 15:23, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
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| :It shouldn't be up in the air. They're clearly an entirely different species. The Unggoy in all previous Halo games had chitinous exoskeletons, like arthropods. The Grunts in Halo 4 have rough skin with scutes. It is literally impossible for them to be members of the same species. This isn't a matter of two subspecies, one with dense feathers and a more pronounced beak and one with scutes and ornamental feathers. This is a matter of two totally separate species with completely different skeletal structures, one with a full chitinous exoskeleton and one with osteoderms. Compare the Halo Reach, Halo 4, and Halo 5 Grunts. The Halo Reach and 5 Grunts clearly have articulated exoskeletons like arthropods, whereas the Halo 4 Grunts are more like reptiles. This was an attempted retcon/redesign of the species, and I'm just glad that 343i seems to have returned to Bungie's original vision for the Unggoy and given the Halo 5 ones exoskeletons, if the image in this article is accurate. --[[User talk:Eipok Kruden|Eipok Kruden]] 05:21, 21 June, 2015 (PDT)
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| == Tier 4 ==
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| Where exactly is it stated that Unggoy were Tier 4 before the firing of the Array? The visual guide states that ecological collapse due to overindustrialisation happened post reseeding.
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| PS: How do I sign my posts?{{Unsigned|The Master Builder}}
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| :The [[Bestiarum]]: ''"It is still recovering from '''preactivation''' environmental collapse caused by massive global overindustrialization. It seems that prior to their incorporation into the [Covenant], the Unggoy had yet to [reattain] Tier 4 technologies."'' The visual guide doesn't mention when the catastrophe happened.
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| :You can sign your posts with the third button from the top left of the editing field (the blue pencil right after the "'''B'''" and ''I''). --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:28, 23 May 2014 (EDT)
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| == Subtypes ==
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| After seeing the different subtypes of Kig-Yar get proper names (Ruuhtian = Halo Trilogy and Reach Jackals, Ibie'shan = Halo 4 Jackals and T'vaoan = Skirmishers) I would like to see the same clarification happen for the Unggoy, as the Trilogy/Reach Grunts are obviously vastly different from the Halo 4 ones. The differences are even greater than those of the Kig-Yar subtypes. I for one would be eternally grateful for a confirmed differentiation between the types. Sorry if theres any grammatical mistakes or extra spaces, this was writtern on a tablet [[User:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|SLiD1nG Pr0Xy]] ([[User talk:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|talk]]) 20:44, 23 April 2015 (EDT)
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| == Graffix ==
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| Guys, dontcha think we should change the main picture of the Minor Grunt to a Minor Grunt from HCEA? Like, I think it's more detailed that way.
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| == Main image. ==
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| Is there any particular reason why the Infinite Grunt hasn’t replaced the Halo 2 Anniversary Grunt in the main image section? It seems to me like it’s supposed to be the same type of Grunt. There is already a render being used on the Unggoy Conscript page that can be used. [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 04:19, March 13, 2022 (EDT)
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