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I vote we Axe this nonsense on the grounds of being bloody impossible. [[User talk:TK3997|TK3997]] 02:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I vote we Axe this nonsense on the grounds of being bloody impossible. [[User talk:TK3997|TK3997]] 02:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


:Where did we actually get the original figure of 4000 originally? Did we ever have a source, or was it just fanon someone just posted and we didn't notice? And on a related note, I found [http://www.5596.org/cgi-bin/structure.php this] - a calculator for starship weight. I don't think we know all of the neccessary factors yet, but I'd be interested in its initial results... -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 05:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:Where did we actually get the original figure of 4000 originally? Did we ever have a source, or was it just fanon someone just posted and we didn't notice? And on a related note, I found [http://www.5596.org/cgi-bin/structure.php this] - a calculator for starship weight. I don't think we know all of the neccessary factors yet, but I'd be interested in its initial results... -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 05:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea either. Vastly understating starship weight is a long proud tradition among sci-fi authors most of whom are, ironically, really bad at math. Still this is just outrageous as this number makes it less then half the weight of a modern destroyer it’s over three times the length of and probably dozens of times the volume.
I have no idea either. Vastly understating starship weight is a long proud tradition among sci-fi authors most of whom are, ironically, really bad at math. Still this is just outrageous as this number makes it less then half the weight of a modern destroyer it’s over three times the length of and probably dozens of times the volume.


Volume is what determines mass, but how it works is somewhat counter intuitive. Namely volume (which as noted is what determines mass) goes up much faster you might expect with increased size. Still this lacks even that excuse as the number given isn't "heavy, but not heavy enough" it's wildly too light to begin with.--[[User talk:TK3997|TK3997]] 22:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Volume is what determines mass, but how it works is somewhat counter intuitive. Namely volume (which as noted is what determines mass) goes up much faster you might expect with increased size. Still this lacks even that excuse as the number given isn't "heavy, but not heavy enough" it's wildly too light to begin with.--[[User talk:TK3997|TK3997]] 22:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


Mr. Nylund has a bachelors degree in chemical physics, though, which requires intimate knowledge of mathematics, so I'd assume he'd know how to calculate a ships mass. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 22:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Nylund has a bachelors degree in chemical physics, though, which requires intimate knowledge of mathematics, so I'd assume he'd know how to calculate a ships mass. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 22:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


Apparently not given that I just proved above (with a few minor and logical assumptions) how absurd his number was with high school level math and about half an hour on Google. I didn't know he had a degree in a real science, in chemistry no less! In that case his insane number is even more illogical he MUST have some clue there is no godly way something that large made of metal could be that light. It then smacks not of lack of knowledge, but profound laziness. If he had such a degree and still published that number he can't have considered it for more then 30 seconds or run even the most basic of calculation on it. --[[User talk:TK3997|TK3997]] 01:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
Apparently not given that I just proved above (with a few minor and logical assumptions) how absurd his number was with high school level math and about half an hour on Google. I didn't know he had a degree in a real science, in chemistry no less! In that case his insane number is even more illogical he MUST have some clue there is no godly way something that large made of metal could be that light. It then smacks not of lack of knowledge, but profound laziness. If he had such a degree and still published that number he can't have considered it for more then 30 seconds or run even the most basic of calculation on it. --[[User talk:TK3997|TK3997]] 01:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
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If you look at Frigates, there is a row of what looks like closed hangar bays on either side. They seem to small to fit Pelicans(The Pelican is too wide). The only possible explanation I can come up with is that they have escape pods. Anyone else have any ideas? [[User talk:OniLink|OniLink]] 22:57, 9 March 2011 (EST)
If you look at Frigates, there is a row of what looks like closed hangar bays on either side. They seem to small to fit Pelicans(The Pelican is too wide). The only possible explanation I can come up with is that they have escape pods. Anyone else have any ideas? [[User talk:OniLink|OniLink]] 22:57, 9 March 2011 (EST)


:What look like hangar doors may not be. Remember, in Halo 3 we see Pelicans deployed ''down'' - the panels might be reactive armour, meant to protect the internal spaces. The real exit would be underneath, retractable doors. The actual hangars may be much larger than they look. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:22, 10 March 2011 (EST)
:What look like hangar doors may not be. Remember, in Halo 3 we see Pelicans deployed ''down'' - the panels might be reactive armour, meant to protect the internal spaces. The real exit would be underneath, retractable doors. The actual hangars may be much larger than they look. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:22, 10 March 2011 (EST)


The Sabre is by far the most compact UNSC craft, and it would not have fitted into the Frigate on the Boneyard. But beware of scaling-down issues. Also, concept art for Halo 3 depicts a frigate inside the Assault Carrier with lit up hangar openings at the back of these hangar sections ''a la'' Battlestar Galactica.--[[Special:Contributions/46.138.185.74|46.138.185.74]] 12:37, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
The Sabre is by far the most compact UNSC craft, and it would not have fitted into the Frigate on the Boneyard. But beware of scaling-down issues. Also, concept art for Halo 3 depicts a frigate inside the Assault Carrier with lit up hangar openings at the back of these hangar sections ''a la'' Battlestar Galactica.--[[Special:Contributions/46.138.185.74|46.138.185.74]] 12:37, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

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