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==Icy planet==
The icy unknown planet might be Harvest before its atmosphere dissipated.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 18:34, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
The icy unknown planet might be Harvest before its atmosphere dissipated.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 18:34, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


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actually, eventaully the UNSC takes it back. I think it's 2531, or near then. so it's possible! -SpecOps306
actually, eventaully the UNSC takes it back. I think it's 2531, or near then. so it's possible! -SpecOps306
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It might be another time anomaly because of all the things like battle rifles and mark 6 armor  --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 19:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
It might be another time anomaly because of all the things like battle rifles and mark 6 armor  --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 19:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


==Phoenix==
whats Phoenix-classfaction ED? --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 19:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
whats Phoenix-classfaction ED? --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 19:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


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Heavy was spelled wrong. --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 01:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Heavy was spelled wrong. --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 01:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
'''you dont need to say you did it, just put minor edit on etc.'''
 


SOURCES
SOURCES
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Is it from a book, comic or game?
Is it from a book, comic or game?


It is from an RTS game called Halo Wars. '''[[user:Ares.117|<font color="dark orange">The God Of War</font>]] [[user talk:Ares.117|<font color="dark orange"><sup>(Speak with Me)</sup></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ares.117|<font color="dark orange"><sup>(My Work)</sup></font>]]''' File:Ares.jpg|30px]] 15:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
It is from an RTS game called Halo Wars. '''[[user:Ares.117|<font color="dark orange">The God Of War</font>]] [[user talk:Ares.117|<font color="dark orange"><sup>(Speak with Me)</sup></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ares.117|<font color="dark orange"><sup>(My Work)</sup></font>]]''' [[Image:Ares.jpg|30px]] 15:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


wow! congratulations you fixed a spelling error you want gold medal?
wow! congratulations you fixed a spelling error you want gold medal?
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Read the headline it is possible that the Spirit of Fire is a super carrier it is Possible?
Read the headline it is possible that the Spirit of Fire is a super carrier it is Possible?
:Anything is possible at this point, there are no released details about the game yet. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halopedian.com/User:ED/Gaming<font color="000000">(gaming)]</font></sup></b> 16:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:Anything is possible at this point, there are no released details about the game yet. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User:ED/Gaming<font color="000000">(gaming)]</font></sup></b> 16:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


== Age? ==
== Age? ==
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The ship's symbol says it was constructed in the year 2418, does that mean the ship is over 100 years old? --[[User:SILENT ONE|SILENT ONE]] 21:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
The ship's symbol says it was constructed in the year 2418, does that mean the ship is over 100 years old? --[[User:SILENT ONE|SILENT ONE]] 21:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


Yup, looks like it. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 14:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Yup, looks like it. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[Image:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 14:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


== Contact Harvest and The Picture ==
== Contact Harvest and The Picture ==
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== Change ==
== Change ==


Note that Ensemble Studios changed the date of construction from 2418 to 2473! --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 10:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Note that Ensemble Studios changed the date of construction from 2418 to 2473! --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[Image:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 10:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


== Trivia(?) ==
== Trivia(?) ==
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They Are Heavy Dropship's. [[User:Shipmaster117|Shipmaster117]] 10:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
They Are Heavy Dropship's. [[User:Shipmaster117|Shipmaster117]] 10:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


:They aren't [[Albatross]]es. They're much larger, and fulfill a different function than the Albatross. As for whether they copied Starship Troopers, I refuse to see it on principle given the atrocious acting and stereotypical plot, and the fact that it's almost a spoof of the original novel. -- '''CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 10:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:They aren't [[Albatross]]es. They're much larger, and fulfill a different function than the Albatross. As for whether they copied Starship Troopers, I refuse to see it on principle given the atrocious acting and stereotypical plot, and the fact that it's almost a spoof of the original novel. -- '''[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[userWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 10:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


== Carrier vs. Colony Ship ==
== Carrier vs. Colony Ship ==
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wouldn't it be so cool if we could pilot the spirit of fire and start firing its mac. probably a super mac if you ask me. start destroying other ships. if you go on YouTube look for the halo wars demos. pods come down from spirit of fire to build a base
wouldn't it be so cool if we could pilot the spirit of fire and start firing its mac. probably a super mac if you ask me. start destroying other ships. if you go on YouTube look for the halo wars demos. pods come down from spirit of fire to build a base


:For all intents and purposes, it is a Carrier. It transports ''military'' equipment and personnel, and is operated ''by the military'' to participate in ''military operations''. It used to be a colony ship until it recieved a refit, adding more armour and weapons. Given that it is no longer used to colonise any planets, it no longer is a colony ship. And your length is wrong - its 2.7 kilometers, not 4.7 - anonymous IP's keep spamming the page with the incorrect number. --'''CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ascension_of_Morheka 'Morhek]</font>''''' 20:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:For all intents and purposes, it is a Carrier. It transports ''military'' equipment and personnel, and is operated ''by the military'' to participate in ''military operations''. It used to be a colony ship until it recieved a refit, adding more armour and weapons. Given that it is no longer used to colonise any planets, it no longer is a colony ship. And your length is wrong - its 2.7 kilometers, not 4.7 - anonymous IP's keep spamming the page with the incorrect number. --'''[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ascension_of_Morheka 'Morhek]</font>''''' 20:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


spirit of fire is a colony ship cause it sends down albatrosses to the ground that carry supplies and building materials . how on earth can it be a carrier when the lead designer of HALO WARS says that it is a RE-PURPOSED COLONY SHIP and was assigned to military use. And on the spirit of fire article it says it is a colony ship.
spirit of fire is a colony ship cause it sends down albatrosses to the ground that carry supplies and building materials . how on earth can it be a carrier when the lead designer of HALO WARS says that it is a RE-PURPOSED COLONY SHIP and was assigned to military use. And on the spirit of fire article it says it is a colony ship.


:It WAS a colony ship, now a military carrier. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b> File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 20:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:It WAS a colony ship, now a military carrier. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] [[UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b> [[Image:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 20:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


::As per ONI, the emphasis on your statement is on ''re-purposed''.--<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_HOT_GATES 'Morhek]</font></i></b> 21:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::As per ONI, the emphasis on your statement is on ''re-purposed''.--<b>[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_HOT_GATES 'Morhek]</font></i></b> 21:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


its a colony ship you don't read the article about spirit of fire do you it is obviously a colony ship
its a colony ship you don't read the article about spirit of fire do you it is obviously a colony ship
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  AND WITH PROOF IT IS A COLONY SHIP WHY DON'T YOU PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!
  AND WITH PROOF IT IS A COLONY SHIP WHY DON'T YOU PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!


Yes, you can keep the ship's previous class and designation, but the very fact that the Spirit of Fire has been ''re-fitted'' or ''re-purposed'' obviously indicates it doesn't serve as a colony ship anymore. It serves as a military warship and also ''ACTS'' as a [[carrier]]. The difference consists in its activity and current purpose, not in its class. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 17:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you can keep the ship's previous class and designation, but the very fact that the Spirit of Fire has been ''re-fitted'' or ''re-purposed'' obviously indicates it doesn't serve as a colony ship anymore. It serves as a military warship and also ''ACTS'' as a [[carrier]]. The difference consists in its activity and current purpose, not in its class. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[Image:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 17:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


so it is still a colony ship but assigned for military purposes and needs. you can get military colony ships/warships.
so it is still a colony ship but assigned for military purposes and needs. you can get military colony ships/warships.
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== Exact Measures ==
== Exact Measures ==


Hello, I just know here in Halopedia. I've been absent for quite a while but I have returned. There is only one question: In the article "List of Starships" the [[Phoenix-class Colony Ship]] is 4700 meters in the list but in the article "[[UNSC Spirit of Fire]]" is the 2.5 km. I am someone please clarify the doubt, will thank you a lot. [[User:H A L O Legend|H A L O Legend]]
Hello, I just know here in Halopedia. I've been absent for quite a while but I have returned. There is only one question: In the article "List of Starships" the [[Phoenix-class Colony Ship]] is 4700 meters in the list but in the article "[[UNSC Spirit of Fire]]" is the 2.5 km. I am someone please clarify the doubt, will thank you a lot. User: [[H A L O Legend|H A L O Legend]]


yeah it is confusing because if spirit of is modified than it should be...you know...loooooooonger.
yeah it is confusing because if spirit of is modified than it should be...you know...loooooooonger.


:Why would it be longer? Its possible to upgrade a ship without changing its size. There's no source we know of that says the Spirit of Fire is more than 2.7 kilometers long. We have a source for ''that'' figure. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 00:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:Why would it be longer? Its possible to upgrade a ship without changing its size. There's no source we know of that says the Spirit of Fire is more than 2.7 kilometers long. We have a source for ''that'' figure. --<b>[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 00:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


==MAC(s)==
==MAC(s)==
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http://www.graemedevine.com/graemedevine/Spirit_of_Fire/Entries/2009/1/25_Medbay_-_the_cat_is_pregnant_files/shapeimage_1.png
http://www.graemedevine.com/graemedevine/Spirit_of_Fire/Entries/2009/1/25_Medbay_-_the_cat_is_pregnant_files/shapeimage_1.png


They could be, but they could also be point defence turrets. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 00:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
They could be, but they could also be point defence turrets. --<b>[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 00:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


isn't it possible that the spirit of fire has 4 MAC guns because on the level dome of  light at the end you got to shoot through that big  hole in the shield dome but when serina takes control she says that the MAC's are online and she goes crazy with the MAC gun(s). just a theory.
isn't it possible that the spirit of fire has 4 MAC guns because on the level dome of  light at the end you got to shoot through that big  hole in the shield dome but when serina takes control she says that the MAC's are online and she goes crazy with the MAC gun(s). just a theory.
it's possible that it has 4 MAC guns because you can fire 4 rounds in rapid succession one after another or it's just a MAC gun with...a bit too much juice!!
it is possible, but improbable. even if the ship was designed to fire shots with less power, the ability to recapture the cannons charge wasn't seen until 2552 on the PoA. Also, it is improbable that the ship could land the rounds with such accuracy. Take the ODST pods for example, even in 2552 with thrusters and even an AI and a firing system designed to fire into atmosphere, they didn't land precisely on target. So it seems unlikely that an unguided MAC round would be able to. Would it be more practical to just assume that the feature was added to balance the gameplay, but isn't as accurate with previous cannon as it should be?
I don't find it at all improbable, not least because the US military has purposed more or less exactly the same thing before:
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2004-06/rods-god
As for rapid fire people boggling over it are making two key mistakes IMO:
-Assuming All MAC guns are the same caliber and same cyclic rate, clearly already untrue just by looking at the gun on the back of the Hog.
-Assuming the gun must discharge at maximum output for every shot, also untrue as the nice thing about an EM gun like this is that more juice equals more push, but less still gives SOME push. There is no real reason the gun couldn't be fired rapidly at say 10% power if the loading system could support it.
Going by the above the Spirits MAC gun power isn't hard to explain at all the MAC is simply firing at lower power settings feed by a large reactor array. Plantside effects reinforce this as if it was a full size MAC round firing at C fractional speeds the effect would not be like a large conventional bomb it would be like the Tsar bomb (at least). The MAC being used in game for fire support is likely loaded with lightweight bombardment rounds (probably with some guidance in the form of fins or such) at lower power settings for close support of ground troops. (Since hurling what amounts to nuclear weapons near friendly potions is discouraged...) [[User talk:TK3997|TK3997]] 02:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


== Weapons ==
== Weapons ==
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source?'''[[User:J!MMY8806|<font color="blue">J!MMY</font>]]''[[User talk:J!MMY8806|<font color="silver">8806</font>]]''' 22:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
source?'''[[User:J!MMY8806|<font color="blue">J!MMY</font>]]''[[User talk:J!MMY8806|<font color="silver">8806</font>]]''' 22:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
it would be logical to assume that they would be used for direct combat because slugs of that low mass would never be able to used for a space to ground assault. Also, the point of a defense system is to be able eliminate single ships. Gauss Cannons take time to recharge, so would be ineffective against single ships that have shields that could deflect the first shot. [[User talk:Psycho60|Psycho60]] 00:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
==Bumblebees==
Doesn't anyone think the compliment should say Bumblebee Lifepods(speculation)[[User talk:Doylej0131|Doylej0131]] 17:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Every UNSC ship should have bumblebees,so yea
:As stated, every ship would have Bumblebee Lifepods, the real question is if you consider them compliment.  I personally don't know, mostly because I define compliment as something that assists in combat (space or otherwise).  However, Bumblebees are specifically to get out of combat and away from danger. Of course, I may be entirely wrong.[[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 21:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::Disregard all of that.  I checked the Pillar of Autumn's page and saw that Lifepods was listed under complement.  So, doing the same here is alright.[[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 21:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
== List of commanders ==
I was playing the HW level "Cleansing" today and noticed an interesting detail. On the side of the ship there's a list of previous commanders of the Spirit of Fire. Some of the names and years aren't clear, but it reads something like this:
*Cutter: 2520-
*Alexander: 2513-2520
*Roggan: 2507-2513
*Johnson: 2499-2505
*Donald: 2491-2499
*Rehkov: 24XX-2491
*Coleman: 2473-2484
== The Bridge ==
I was looking at the Spirit of Fire and thought the Bridge was at the front-top of the ship. Then I noticed in the "Descent" cutscene, the Bridge is on the fin. Am i looking at this right?
it has both a bridge up top and then an observation deck down low, that's the room with the glass floor and stuff from the cutscenes I think
==Possible Trivia: SoF Emblem ~ BSG-75 Emblem==
It just occurred to me that the ''Spirit of Fire'''s emblem is similar to the [http://toraiinxamikaze.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3b9syo BSG-75 ship emblem] often seen in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica re-imagined television series called ''Battlestar Galactica''], usually during the opening credits, but hardly ever actually seen mounted anywhere in the ship itself in any scene. I thought this might make an interesting trivia reference, that is possible, however maybe unlikely, that the SoF emblem was inspired by Battlestar Galactica. I would have already added it to the Trivia section of the article, but I wanted to know what others think of this. Depending on the result of this discussion will determine whether or not this will be added, though personally I think it should be added. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 14:10, 10 December 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330
=="Latest Sighting"==
May I be permitted to update the "Latest Sighting" bit with 2558 instead of 2531 since we now know the vessel has been rediscovered as of this year?[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 23:37, 1 March 2014 (EST)
== Troop Compliment ==
I just moved the army out from under the marines in the info box as that was saying there are 6,000 marines and of them 2,000 are army personnel. I am not sure about the ODST as I now read it as there are 6,000 marines and 1,000 of them are ODSTs, but how I read it in Warfleet is that there are 6,000 marines and additionally 1,000 ODSTs for a total of 7,000 Marine Corps personnel. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 00:01, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
== Orbital laser cannons ==
When you do a call down of jeromes personal mantis you also can call down a laser barrage these lasers are to big to part of any vehicle and look they are being shot from the spirit of fire.  I wonder if they forgot to add the laser cannon in the halo warfleet to the UNSC spirit of fire.  This would have been an added thing the spirit by Isabel.  I wonder what 343 have to say about these and I wonder what they are called

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