Editing Talk:UNSC Special Forces

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Shouldn't this be more of a disimbauguation page because of the fact that there hasn't been a "UNSC MARSCOM" mentioned anywhere and seeing as how Projects Spartan-II and III fall under ONI/NAVSPECWAR? [[User:Sgt.johnson|'''<font color="Red">Don't Mess With The Sarge</font>''']] File:Marine Corp 1stSgt.jpg|25px]]<sup>[[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Gold">My Comm Line</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Sgt.johnson|<font color="Red">My Wars</font>]]</sub> 16:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Just pointing out that in Nylund's Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx novels the abbreviation NavSpecWep is used rather than NavSpecWar.


==Spartan-IVs==

Where do the spartan-IVs fit in to all of this? Would the be part of ''Naval'' Special Warfare Command, or ''Unified'' Special Warfare Command?  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 18:31, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

:Neither. The SPARTAN-IVs <strike>have</strike> are their own special operations branch. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 21:40, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

::Spartan-IVs are neither Navy, Marines, Army, nor Air Force. They have their own service branch in the UNSC. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 19:31, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

:::So there is no unifying special forces group to put them in? Given the fact that USW contains not only army, but also marines, it is possible that there is one Special Forces group that contains units from all or several divisions. I was wondering if we have any data on the spartan IVs? being involved in anything like that? Based on your responses, I would guess not. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:23, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

::::It's certainly an interesting question. Based on the ''Encyclopedia'', which also introduced the UNICOM-NAVCOM structure as one of its few original canon bits, ''all'' UNSC forces fall under one or the other command organization (though it doesn't say much about individual branches - which command is the Air Force part of, for instance?). But since the Spartan branch is all sorts of weird and anarchic it's certainly possible they don't answer to ''anyone'' in the conventional command hierarchy, apart from HIGHCOM. This does also bring up the question of who exactly coordinates them on a larger scale, apart from their component commanders like Palmer. Or who liaises with the other branches and/or HIGHCOM and possibly Special Warfare command organizations. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 03:46, 21 April 2014 (EDT)

== ONI Special Operations - CAPT Annabelle Richards ==

Should CAPT Richards be moved to ONI Special Operations, as it is never mentioned that she is in command of all UNSC Special Forces (hardly a job for an O-6). Also there doesn't seem to be a central command like SOCOM in the Halo Universe that we see. Also she is referred to as Special Operations. Should this page be renamed UNSC Special Operations Forces, as it deals with many different units, and in the real world only Army Green Berets are referred to as special forces (and Halo appears to be following US conventions).

:I agree with that. Considering that she's said to head ONI Special Operations, it's more than likely a different organization than UNSC Special Forces Command. [[User:Kcin117|Kcin117]] ([[User talk:Kcin117|talk]]) 16:31, 8 July 2018 (EDT)

== On the subject of Naval Special Warfare vs Naval Special Weapons ==

So why is it that the Spartan-III Program is said to be under Naval Special Weapons, but the Headhunters are said to be under Naval Special Warfare? Additionally for the Spartan-IIs, why is it said that they now serve under Naval Special Warfare, as opposed to Naval Special Weapons? (as of the creation of the Spartan Branch and the IIIs being merged into it). In addition to that, the [[ONI]] page lists NAVSPECWAR as one of it's subordinate commands (with Beta-5 Division, the Spartan-II Program and Spartan-III Program all under it). And then again, on this page you have the NAVSPECWEP subsection saying that NAVSPECWEP has ties to ONI, rather than NAVSPECWAR. Worst part of all is that most of these don't have any citations with concrete sources (most of the TFOR pages are from the original copy) or notes with reasoning clarifying if it was made off of inference. Any clarification on this? [[User:Kcin117|Kcin117]] ([[User talk:Kcin117|talk]]) 17:32, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
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 == On the subject of Naval Special Warfare vs Naval Special Weapons ==
-So why is it that the Spartan-III Program is said to be under Naval Special Weapons, but the Headhunters are said to be under Naval Special Warfare? Additionally for the Spartan-IIs, why is it said that they now serve under Naval Special Warfare, as opposed to Naval Special Weapons? (as of the creation of the Spartan Branch and the IIIs being merged into it). In addition to that, the [[ONI]] page lists NAVSPECWAR as one of it's subordinate commands (with Beta-5 Division, the Spartan-II Program and Spartan-III Program all under it). And then again, on this page you have the NAVSPECWEP subsection saying that NAVSPECWEP has ties to ONI, rather than NAVSPECWAR. Worst part of all is that most of these don't have any citations with concrete sources (most of the cited TFOR pages are from the original copy) or notes with reasoning clarifying if it was made off of inference. Any clarification on this? [[User:Kcin117|Kcin117]] ([[User talk:Kcin117|talk]]) 17:32, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
+So why is it that the Spartan-III Program is said to be under Naval Special Weapons, but the Headhunters are said to be under Naval Special Warfare? Additionally for the Spartan-IIs, why is it said that they now serve under Naval Special Warfare, as opposed to Naval Special Weapons? (as of the creation of the Spartan Branch and the IIIs being merged into it). In addition to that, the [[ONI]] page lists NAVSPECWAR as one of it's subordinate commands (with Beta-5 Division, the Spartan-II Program and Spartan-III Program all under it). And then again, on this page you have the NAVSPECWEP subsection saying that NAVSPECWEP has ties to ONI, rather than NAVSPECWAR. Worst part of all is that most of these don't have any citations with concrete sources (most of the TFOR pages are from the original copy) or notes with reasoning clarifying if it was made off of inference. Any clarification on this? [[User:Kcin117|Kcin117]] ([[User talk:Kcin117|talk]]) 17:32, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
-== Captain Annabelle Richards ==
-This page says Richards is head of all UNSC Special Forces. Her own page says "head of special operations in the Office of Naval Intelligence". Is can someone clarify if it is all UNSC SOF, or just in ONI? Or is there some implication ONI controls all the UNSC's SOF? [[User:Enough Redshirts|Enough Redshirts]] ([[User talk:Enough Redshirts|talk]]) 02:52, March 17, 2019 (EDT)