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Well its more of a really simple theory if the defence group you know Hood Strattus Ackerson and the other brass pulled most of the fleet to earth wouldn't the army be there also the army would use the same type of combat dress as the Marines minus the ODST armor. The UNSC Army might have also went with the marines to the Ark because at the end of the game it never clarified who exactly went in the portal minus Johnson and Keyes and John it seems to me that the marine garrision is low because of Reach. | Well its more of a really simple theory if the defence group you know Hood Strattus Ackerson and the other brass pulled most of the fleet to earth wouldn't the army be there also the army would use the same type of combat dress as the Marines minus the ODST armor. The UNSC Army might have also went with the marines to the Ark because at the end of the game it never clarified who exactly went in the portal minus Johnson and Keyes and John it seems to me that the marine garrision is low because of Reach. | ||
** Well, I don't think the Army uniforms would be the same as the [[Marine]] uniforms. I think they would rather look like [[Colonial Militia]] outfits. And I don't think the Army went to the [[Ark]] either, because the Army is a land-based force unlike the Marines who get to ride in starships and yonder the galaxy. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 17:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ** Well, I don't think the Army uniforms would be the same as the [[Marine]] uniforms. I think they would rather look like [[Colonial Militia]] outfits. And I don't think the Army went to the [[Ark]] either, because the Army is a land-based force unlike the Marines who get to ride in starships and yonder the galaxy. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 17:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
*** The Army was probably setting up defensisves across the world along with peacekeeping efforts following the Marine leave for the Ark. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 18:36, November 19, 2009 (UTC) | *** The Army was probably setting up defensisves across the world along with peacekeeping efforts following the Marine leave for the Ark. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 18:36, November 19, 2009 (UTC) | ||
they could be a planetary defence force like a better trained version of the colianial militia --[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 03:22, November 20, 2009 (UTC) | they could be a planetary defence force like a better trained version of the colianial militia --[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 03:22, November 20, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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If you've read all the previous novels, and you know as much about the military as I do, you'd notice that Eric Nylund is not very military savy and has made hanus mistakes concerning ranks before (describing 2nd and 1st Lieutenants as Navy ranks, for example). [[User:Idolo|Idolo]] 18:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | If you've read all the previous novels, and you know as much about the military as I do, you'd notice that Eric Nylund is not very military savy and has made hanus mistakes concerning ranks before (describing 2nd and 1st Lieutenants as Navy ranks, for example). [[User:Idolo|Idolo]] 18:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:We asked Eric Nylund if you can check the ''letters of canon''. The UNSC Army exists. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]</b> 19:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | :We asked Eric Nylund if you can check the ''letters of canon''. The UNSC Army exists. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]][[File:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]]</b> 19:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
Letters of canon? What? [[User:Idolo|Idolo]] 19:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | Letters of canon? What? [[User:Idolo|Idolo]] 19:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
<nowiki>[[Category:Letters of Canon]]</nowiki> - <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]</b> 19:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | <nowiki>[[Category: Letters of Canon]]</nowiki> - <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]][[File:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]]</b> 19:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
Better yet, look at THIS --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 20:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | Better yet, look at [[Letter_-_Re:UNSC_Army|THIS]] --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 20:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
It still looks to me like he made a typo and tried to cover it up later by saying there really is a UNSC Army, instead of actually admitting to his mistake. I wouldn't try and get my Halo facts from him, especially after "1st and 2nd Lieutenant Lovell". [[User:Idolo|Idolo]] 20:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | It still looks to me like he made a typo and tried to cover it up later by saying there really is a UNSC Army, instead of actually admitting to his mistake. I wouldn't try and get my Halo facts from him, especially after "1st and 2nd Lieutenant Lovell". [[User:Idolo|Idolo]] 20:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
He's our best source of contact. We trust anything that comes from him, so yeah. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]</b> 20:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | He's our best source of contact. We trust anything that comes from him, so yeah. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]][[File:ArmyJROTC.jpg|20px]]</b> 20:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
He's the writer of halo setting the plot outside the video game there so he set up the halo universe and had access to the halo bible.Do you have access to the halo bible didn't think so.--[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 01:35, October 26, 2009 (UTC) | He's the writer of halo setting the plot outside the video game there so he set up the halo universe and had access to the halo bible.Do you have access to the halo bible didn't think so.--[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 01:35, October 26, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:That would go under "Theories" or "Speculation" then, right? --[[User:TerminalFailure|TerminalFailure]] 05:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | :That would go under "Theories" or "Speculation" then, right? --[[User:TerminalFailure|TerminalFailure]] 05:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::It wouldn't go anywhere, actually - since that's all it is, I can't, and shouldn't, put it into the article. If only Bungie gave us at least a ''little'' information on the Army... --'''UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 20:55, 13 May 2008 (UTC) | ::It wouldn't go anywhere, actually - since that's all it is, I can't, and shouldn't, put it into the article. If only Bungie gave us at least a ''little'' information on the Army... --'''[[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 20:55, 13 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
::The military body of the UNSC tasked with peacekeeping is the [[Colonial Militia]], a branch of the Army. The Army itself would be a much larger and more important force. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 15:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ::The military body of the UNSC tasked with peacekeeping is the [[Colonial Militia]], a branch of the Army. The Army itself would be a much larger and more important force. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 15:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Actually, I don't think the Colonial Militia is even part of the UNSC Army. Plus, the UNSC Army does patrol colony worlds, and it may be a larger landing force if the Marines are overwhelmed. -- -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Red">The Sarge</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">My Comm Line</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">What I've done</font>]]</sub></b> 15:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | :::Actually, I don't think the Colonial Militia is even part of the UNSC Army. Plus, the UNSC Army does patrol colony worlds, and it may be a larger landing force if the Marines are overwhelmed. -- -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Red">The Sarge</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">My Comm Line</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">What I've done</font>]]</sub></b> 15:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::The CM serves as a paramilitary defense force, and it's usually called into action when natural disasters or invasions occur. It's also comprised of half-time soldiers. As far as we know, such a military force is never supported by the Marines, but by the Army instead. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 16:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ::::The CM serves as a paramilitary defense force, and it's usually called into action when natural disasters or invasions occur. It's also comprised of half-time soldiers. As far as we know, such a military force is never supported by the Marines, but by the Army instead. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 16:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::Then why are three Marines training, supplying, and supporting them in Contact Harvest? -- -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Red">The Sarge</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">My Comm Line</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">What I've done</font>]]</sub></b> 16:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | :::::Then why are three Marines training, supplying, and supporting them in Contact Harvest? -- -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Red">The Sarge</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">My Comm Line</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="red">What I've done</font>]]</sub></b> 16:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::::Because anyone can enlist in the Colonial Militia, including Marines. The fact that the Marines supply the militia, doesn't mean it's controlled by the Marines. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 22:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ::::::Because anyone can enlist in the Colonial Militia, including Marines. The fact that the Marines supply the militia, doesn't mean it's controlled by the Marines. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 22:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
Not true at all... the U.S. Army, and the British Army, both are a fighting force that actually takes more ground than the Marines in offensive operations. (see Iraq war 2003) Also the WW2 European theater was exclusively fought by the Army. Infact the ODST's resemble Army Rangers, and Army Airborne "troopers" more so than any Marine force. I think it's inconsistency's, and a general lack of military knowledge of Halo authors, and Bungie staff that are responsible for the general lunacy of UNSC military structure. Ross-073 6:51 19 Dec 2009 Baghdad time. | Not true at all... the U.S. Army, and the British Army, both are a fighting force that actually takes more ground than the Marines in offensive operations. (see Iraq war 2003) Also the WW2 European theater was exclusively fought by the Army. Infact the ODST's resemble Army Rangers, and Army Airborne "troopers" more so than any Marine force. I think it's inconsistency's, and a general lack of military knowledge of Halo authors, and Bungie staff that are responsible for the general lunacy of UNSC military structure. Ross-073 6:51 19 Dec 2009 Baghdad time. | ||
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:Where does it say Urban is army? --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 02:38, January 26, 2010 (UTC) | :Where does it say Urban is army? --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 02:38, January 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::On the Reach Project Page, Urban writes, as a side note, that "we're Army." --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 14:49, January 26, 2010 (UTC) | ::On the Reach Project Page, Urban writes, as a side note, that "we're Army." --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 14:49, January 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::: Crap, the Army isn't in Reach. This sucks a ton. I have been waiting forever for some UNSC Army guys. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 03:06, January 27, 2010 (UTC) | ::: Crap, the Army isn't in Reach. This sucks a ton. I have been waiting forever for some UNSC Army guys. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 03:06, January 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:::::The Bungie update made it seem like they were was Marines. I still think there maybe both in the game. However, the "Army" label on the concept art could be a generic term, like how they use it in Halo Wars.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 14:48, January 27, 2010 (UTC) | :::::The Bungie update made it seem like they were was Marines. I still think there maybe both in the game. However, the "Army" label on the concept art could be a generic term, like how they use it in Halo Wars.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 14:48, January 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::The concept art may still be for Army soldiers; Bungie only said that the model featured in this image is a Marine. They said nothing about the concept art. While similar, I think the concept labeled "Army" could still be on this page, as there's nothing that disproves it. For now. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 15:23, January 27, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::The concept art may still be for Army soldiers; Bungie only said that the model featured in [[:File:Marine Comparisons.jpg|this image]] is a Marine. They said nothing about the concept art. While similar, I think the concept labeled "Army" could still be on this page, as there's nothing that disproves it. For now. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 15:23, January 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Can we unlock this article? I have stuff to add, since it seems Reach is going to have almost all army weapons.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 04:15, January 29, 2010 (UTC) | Can we unlock this article? I have stuff to add, since it seems Reach is going to have almost all army weapons.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 04:15, January 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I think the fact that, for once, we're not going to play as Marines in a Halo game needs time to sink well in some of the thicker heads around here. Regardless, I'm going to try to add some of the stuff on B.net into relevant articles concerning the UNSC Army. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] | :I think the fact that, for once, we're not going to play as Marines in a Halo game needs time to sink well in some of the thicker heads around here. Regardless, I'm going to try to add some of the stuff on B.net into relevant articles concerning the UNSC Army. --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 08:00, January 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Alright, sounds fair. I'll do the same.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 14:41, January 29, 2010 (UTC) | ::Alright, sounds fair. I'll do the same.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 14:41, January 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Urk:''The troopers seen in the current crop of screenshots are indeed Army Troopers. And of course you’ll see some Marines!'' | Urk:''The troopers seen in the current crop of screenshots are indeed Army Troopers. And of course you’ll see some Marines!'' | ||
There's your proof :). <BIG><b><font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:3vil D3m0n|<font color="red">3vil</font>]] [[User talk:3vil D3m0n|<font color="blue">D3m0n</font>]]</font></b></BIG> <i><b><sup><font face="Comic Sans MS">[[Special:Contributions/3vil D3m0n|<font color="green">Don't worry, I'm not really evil...</font>]]</font></sup></b></i> 13:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC) | There's your proof :). <BIG><b><font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:3vil D3m0n|<font color="red">3vil</font>]] [[User talk:3vil D3m0n|<font color="blue">D3m0n</font>]]</font></b></BIG> [[File:3vil D3m0n's Emblem.jpg|21px]] <i><b><sup><font face="Comic Sans MS">[[Special:Contributions/3vil D3m0n|<font color="green">Don't worry, I'm not really evil...</font>]]</font></sup></b></i> 13:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Possible Army Logo == | == Possible Army Logo == | ||
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Could the logo on the bottom of the new weapon images be the Army's logo? [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/6/6d/Go_army.jpg Image]. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 05:15, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | Could the logo on the bottom of the new weapon images be the Army's logo? [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/6/6d/Go_army.jpg Image]. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 05:15, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:It could be the manufacturer's company logo.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 05:30, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | :It could be the manufacturer's company logo.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 05:30, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I'm thinking more along the lines of the symbol on the Troopers' shoulders. It could possibly relate to the Army's logo. Regards, [[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 08:00, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | ::I'm thinking more along the lines of the symbol on the Troopers' shoulders. It could possibly relate to the Army's logo. Regards, [[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[File:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 08:00, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::The shoulder symbol seems more likely to be some form of [[wikipedia:Tactical recognition flash|tactical recognition flash]] than the Army emblem itself.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 10:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | :::The shoulder symbol seems more likely to be some form of [[wikipedia:Tactical recognition flash|tactical recognition flash]] than the Army emblem itself.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 10:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the soldiers in Reach that board the Corvette with you in Long Night of Solace marines? | Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the soldiers in Reach that board the Corvette with you in Long Night of Solace marines? | ||
:They're Sabre pilots, and I'm not sure if their branch has ever been specified. They could even be Air Force for all we know. They wear blue-gray suits like the Falcon pilots in other levels, though. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 22:30, September 28, 2010 (UTC) | :They're Sabre pilots, and I'm not sure if their branch has ever been specified. They could even be Air Force for all we know. They wear blue-gray suits like the Falcon pilots in other levels, though. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 22:30, September 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||