Editing Talk:UNSC Andraste

Is this a different Corvette type? Shouldn't we make an article for it? --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 02:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Come on it's a frigate ! Just because the hull designation say it's a corvette doesn't mean it is... This is an Artwork and therefore it can't be concidered as canon ! [[User talk:Cyphius|Cyphius]] 03:06, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

:And therefore, you can't use canon to desipher it - it works both ways.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 17:00, 28 January 2011 (EST)

:Is it possible that this is the third ship attacking the Dreadnought in Halo 3.[[User talk:Halofan1234|Halofan1234]] 16:51, 28 January 2011 (EST)

::I doubt it. It seems to have been an early design for the {{UNSCship|Forward Unto Dawn}}, based on the same number being on their HCLs. My theory is that they changed the design heavily once they came up with that warthog run (requiring a large cargo bay).-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 17:00, 28 January 2011 (EST)
That makes sense$$$$ (#@lof@n1234) 20:14, 30 January 2011 (EST)

:::Now that Halo Reach has been out and Bungie resurrected this frigate design pretty much exactly as the ''Paris''-class, would it be acceptable to add it to the ''Paris''-class listing? We can't use the hull number of course. It's a frigate, so it would be FFG but 201 is already assigned to the ''Forward Unto Dawn''. The "K" is probably indicative of Kirkland, where Bungie was at the time as some of their Halo 3 and ODST Easter eggs began with the letter K. No need to scrap the name ''Andraste'' though unless there's evidence to do so. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 07:26, 21 June 2013 (EDT)

::::No need to list it as a Paris-class heavy frigate. As stated within the conjecture under Class and Development ''"...the design was more closely adapted to the Paris-class heavy frigates in Halo: Reach"''. This is merely concept art, and not the real deal, both real-world and in-universe. The ''Andraste'' was also <u>planned</u> be a corvette of sorts for the UNSC Navy within ''Halo 3''. The "K" you see on the forward-hull (bow) was used as a hull classification for such vessels, but they never changed it since it never left the concept stage, per say. The ''Forward Unto Dawn'' replaced that ship as the main frigate we saw in ''H3''. Plus, its deleted material, so the listing would be blatantly moot.-'''{{User|Killjax}}'''

:::No prob. When I say pretty much exactly, I'm saying you could superimpose a side view render of a Reach ''Paris''-class over this art and it would line up detail for detail beautifully. There's no doubt this art is a ''Paris''-class. If you want to get technical with the K designation, K201 is actually seen in game on the low-poly model of the ''Forward Unto Dawn'' in Halo 3. To see it, play the Ark level at the point where the ship lands. Make your way through the mission escorting Guilty Spark to the wall. Once on the upper platform of the wall, look back at the ''Dawn'' with a scoped weapon. In the spot where the FFG-201 is on the normal high-poly frigate is K201, a holdover from this artwork. I agree it's not a canonical designation, but it is seen in-game. :) [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 14:53, 21 June 2013 (EDT)
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 Is this a different Corvette type? Shouldn't we make an article for it? --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 02:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
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 :Is it possible that this is the third ship attacking the Dreadnought in Halo 3.[[User talk:Halofan1234|Halofan1234]] 16:51, 28 January 2011 (EST)
-::I doubt it. It seems to have been an early design for the {{UNSCShip|Forward Unto Dawn}}, based on the same number being on their HCLs. My theory is that they changed the design heavily once they came up with that warthog run (requiring a large cargo bay).-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 17:00, 28 January 2011 (EST)
+::I doubt it. It seems to have been an early design for the {{UNSCship|Forward Unto Dawn}}, based on the same number being on their HCLs. My theory is that they changed the design heavily once they came up with that warthog run (requiring a large cargo bay).-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 17:00, 28 January 2011 (EST)
 That makes sense$$$$ (#@lof@n1234) 20:14, 30 January 2011 (EST)
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 :::No prob. When I say pretty much exactly, I'm saying you could superimpose a side view render of a Reach ''Paris''-class over this art and it would line up detail for detail beautifully. There's no doubt this art is a ''Paris''-class. If you want to get technical with the K designation, K201 is actually seen in game on the low-poly model of the ''Forward Unto Dawn'' in Halo 3. To see it, play the Ark level at the point where the ship lands. Make your way through the mission escorting Guilty Spark to the wall. Once on the upper platform of the wall, look back at the ''Dawn'' with a scoped weapon. In the spot where the FFG-201 is on the normal high-poly frigate is K201, a holdover from this artwork. I agree it's not a canonical designation, but it is seen in-game. :) [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 14:53, 21 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::Really now? That's pretty cool. Next time I play ''Halo 3'', I'll take a look at the ''Dawn's'' HCL. Provided I don't get distracted with nostalgia, ha.-'''{{User|Killjax}}'''
-:::I think the ship is still considered as not canon because it was designed as a prototype to the UNSC ''Forward Unto Dawn''. Sure ''Paris''-class frigates have now been invented, but unless the ''Andraste'' is mentioned in ''Halo'' media, it's still not really part of the canon. (At least that's why I think Halopedia still considers it as not canon)[[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 16:13, 21 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::Yeah, that's the gist of it. The ''Paris'' class in ''Reach'' was obviously based on this concept piece, but since the ''Andraste'' itself hasn't appeared in actual media beyond the conceptual stage, we can't really consider that particular ship as canon unless it gets mentioned in future media (doubtful). Besides, we wouldn't have much to say about the ship in a fictional sense - we can't use its hull number and we don't know anything about it beyond its name. For now, I think the production notes on this page and the mention in the trivia section of the [[Paris-class heavy frigate]] article will do. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:25, 21 June 2013 (EDT)
-Should one perhaps add the visible armaments from the concept art onto the page? That would probably encompass the 12 Harpoon nukes, atleast 4 unidentified (M870s though I reckon) gun turrets and atleast 12x5 (60) M58 Archer Missile Pods, though I doubt its more since the contemporary Charon decide didnt have top launchers like the actual Paris for all I know.
---[[User:Hakura 99|Hakura 99]] ([[User talk:Hakura 99|talk]]) 07:19, February 19, 2021 (EST)
-==Andraste/Adriatic==
-The name '''Adriatic''' is mentioned in the Artbook or elsewhere, or you put it as reference ?  [[Special:Contributions/88.120.49.44|88.120.49.44]] 13:13, 3 March 2015 (EST).