Editing Talk:Truth and Reconciliation

==Cleanup==

This article might need some cleanup. It is not written in a very encyclopedic manner and uses some language that is 'too casual'. "...not to mention Stealth Elites", "...fast as lightning..." etc. Basically formalize it and fix some of the grammar
[[User:Ecko87|Ecko87]] 19:19 13, March 2007 (UTC)

I read some were on this site that the Truth and Reconciliation couldn't be the ship were the master chief found Keyes as a flood.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it is in [[Halo: The Flood]]. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 19:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
::well i'm reading it for school so we'll know soon.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
:It's in [[Halo: The Flood]], as a header to chapter 11. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
::oh--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

==Template==

Why did you remove the template? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 23:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

==Big Gap needs fixin'==

I'm on it -- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 00:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it but now a pic is way down on the bottom =P -- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 00:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Where is that pic's code??? Need to move it but can't find it =P -- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 00:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, ok, should I just delete one of these pics, cause no matter how hard I try they keep screwing up the text and makin it look real corny -- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 00:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

==CCS?==
Hmmm ive been thinking cortana said CCS Battlegroups, not CCS CLASS, so couldnt CCS stand for Covenant Capital Ship?(CCS)

It is possibel--[[User:Karzhani|Karzhani]] 06:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

But that cant be right the truth and reconciliation is at least as big if not smaller then the shadow of intent and that wasnt a capital ship[[User talk:Spartan238|Adrian Shephard]] 14:56, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

==Truth and Reconciliation's Ship Master==
In the article it says repeated times that Orna 'Fulsamee is TaR's Ship Master, but in his article it says that he is the Ship Master of a Destroyer, while TaR is a Battlecruiser.  I know Orna being TaR's Ship Master is speculation but is there a mix up or what?
CoH/Member List#Commanders|<span style="color:gold">''Weapons''</span>]] UoH/Member List#Commander|<span style="color:#000000">''Master''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Spartansniper</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">50</span>]] 18:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Crew and inventroy? ==

Elites:


Red

orange

blue

spec ops

Grunts:

All kinds of grunts

Jackals:

Sheild weilding ones

Brutes:

none

Commander:

Future arbiter

hunters

Wraiths ghosts

Is this right im just asking[[User talk:Spartan238|Adrian Shephard]] 03:10, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

== Y no mention of the AI ==

We know the ship had one but it isn't in the article.-[[Special:Contributions/204.45.133.74|204.45.133.74]] 10:09, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

:It's pretty trivial, really.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 14:30, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

== New Image ==

So Warfleet mentions the Ket & Elefen pattern battlecruisers.  I am theorizing that the two pronged CCS-class is likely the Elefen pattern where as the Truth and Reconciliation is clearly depicted (in both a Halo Anniversary and Warfleet ) as the four pronged is the Ket. I think we should revise the default picture to be the four pronged CCS.  [[User:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|Councilor &#39;Rumilee]] ([[User talk:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|talk]]) 19:54, 15 September 2017 (EDT)

I have to disagree. Both in it's original form, in Halo 2 and Halo 2 anniversary we see them all have 2 fins/are Elefen types. This matches well with two other points of note; firstly we see Ket design/4-Finned ships presented at the time of the Unggoys joining the Covenant, Secondly, this is also shown in The Dual both of which take place in the 2100's. The Truth and Reconciliation on the other hand was built and designed in 2531. The Ket is mentioned as being more common. I believe that 343 used artistic license when they showed the diagram and most certainly for Halo Anniversary, where most things are copies from Halo Reach anyway. Not to mention how they changed the ring design. [[User:Primordial|Primordial]] ([[User talk:Primordial|talk]]) 04:33, 25 October 2017 (EDT)
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 This article might need some cleanup. It is not written in a very encyclopedic manner and uses some language that is 'too casual'. "...not to mention Stealth Elites", "...fast as lightning..." etc. Basically formalize it and fix some of the grammar
 [[User:Ecko87|Ecko87]] 19:19 13, March 2007 (UTC)
-==Truth and Reconciliation vs Keyes discrepancies==
 I read some were on this site that the Truth and Reconciliation couldn't be the ship were the master chief found Keyes as a flood.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
-:I'm pretty sure it is in Halo: The Flood. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 19:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
+:I'm pretty sure it is in [[Halo: The Flood]]. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 19:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 ::well i'm reading it for school so we'll know soon.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
-:It's in Halo: The Flood, as a header to chapter 11. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
+:It's in [[Halo: The Flood]], as a header to chapter 11. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 ::oh--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
-:Necromancer coming through. It was retconned to be T&R, but the ships' layouts in the levels TT&R and Keyes are very different whether by oversight during development (very likely) or intentionally in which case the ship in Keyes was ''not'' intended to be the Truth and Reconciliation. In Keyes, the command center is accessed through the ''first'' floor of a hangar bay with the command center itself being elevated closer to the second floor of the hangar bay. In the level, T&R, the command center is accessible via the ''third'' floor of a hangar bay and is elevated above that floor. Without comparing the levels themselves, it could be said that one hangar bay is above the other. As noted in the article, the gravity lift is also in a different location when comparing the interiors of the ship. Hallways leading to the gravity lift room also vary greatly from their T&R counterparts.--[[User:VoidsShadow|VoidsShadow]] ([[User talk:VoidsShadow|talk]]) 22:26, December 16, 2020 (EST)
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 So Warfleet mentions the Ket & Elefen pattern battlecruisers.  I am theorizing that the two pronged CCS-class is likely the Elefen pattern where as the Truth and Reconciliation is clearly depicted (in both a Halo Anniversary and Warfleet ) as the four pronged is the Ket. I think we should revise the default picture to be the four pronged CCS.  [[User:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|Councilor &#39;Rumilee]] ([[User talk:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|talk]]) 19:54, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
-:I have to disagree. Both in it's original form, in Halo 2 and Halo 2 anniversary we see them all have 2 fins/are Elefen types. This matches well with two other points of note; firstly we see Ket design/4-Finned ships presented at the time of the Unggoys joining the Covenant, Secondly, this is also shown in The Dual both of which take place in the 2100's. The Truth and Reconciliation on the other hand was built and designed in 2531. The Ket is mentioned as being more common. I believe that 343 used artistic license when they showed the diagram and most certainly for Halo Anniversary, where most things are copies from Halo Reach anyway. Not to mention how they changed the ring design. [[User:Primordial|Primordial]] ([[User talk:Primordial|talk]]) 04:33, 25 October 2017 (EDT)
+I have to disagree. Both in it's original form, in Halo 2 and Halo 2 anniversary we see them all have 2 fins/are Elefen types. This matches well with two other points of note; firstly we see Ket design/4-Finned ships presented at the time of the Unggoys joining the Covenant, Secondly, this is also shown in The Dual both of which take place in the 2100's. The Truth and Reconciliation on the other hand was built and designed in 2531. The Ket is mentioned as being more common. I believe that 343 used artistic license when they showed the diagram and most certainly for Halo Anniversary, where most things are copies from Halo Reach anyway. Not to mention how they changed the ring design. [[User:Primordial|Primordial]] ([[User talk:Primordial|talk]]) 04:33, 25 October 2017 (EDT)
-::We don't know what the Elefen-pattern could be, for all we know it could be a variant of the RCS-class at a push. What I am saying is we cant be certain sadly.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 04:42, 25 October 2017 (EDT)
-:::Actually, the Elefen-pattern was called out there to show the distinction between the two variants of CCS-class (2 prong and 4 prong) as surmised above. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 12:03, 18 February 2018 (EST)
-::::Thanks for clarifying that! I've suspected that was the case for a while, but without a source to go on, we couldn't safely add it to either wiki. Now that we've got a source, we can :) - [[User:Dab1001|Dab1001]] ([[User talk:Dab1001|talk]]) 15:18, 18 February 2018 (EST)
-:::::Yea that was the only reason I was saying that the Elefen could of been something else completely. But hey its nice to know.(Also I pushed your sig right after the comment. Just to keep stuff neater)-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 04:49, 19 February 2018 (EST)