Editing Talk:Titanium-A armor

==Confirmations==

'''Marines sometimes have Titanium-A armor suits, though these are increasingly becming a rare sight.'''
Is this from Halo 1 ? if so how do we know its Titanium ? --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 20:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:Because the metal plates on the Marines on Halo 1 are not seen anymore. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 16:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

And did the The Tralfagar realy have 10 meters of Armour?

:I've been trying to find that out too.
-- http://www.halopedia.org/Talk:UNSC_Trafalgar --

How long could it really take for someone with the 2010 version of the book to check to see if the book (page 168) actually does mention that the Trafalgar has 10m of armor? There's a page on this wiki that lists all the changes from the original versions of the book to the rerelease versions and this change is not mentioned. --[[User talk:Dustin Nugget|Dustin Nugget]] 17:23, 22 November 2012 (EST)

==Covenant Armor==

Does anyone know if there is an article for what armor the Covenant used instead?[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''</span>]] 05:20, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Speculative content this is "to more efficiently transfer the heat generated by the ship into space". Unlike the content of these words, i described the principle of operation of magnetic armor, and also added assumptions that are used everywhere in an attempt to substantiate certain properties. For example, on the page about nanotubes, an assumption about their hybridization is used.

"The nature of the bonding of a nanotube is described by applied quantum chemistry, specifically, orbital hybridization. The chemical bonding of nanotubes is composed entirely of sp2 bonds, similar to those of graphite. This bonding structure, which is stronger than the sp3 bonds found in diamond, provides the molecules with their unique strength. Nanotubes naturally align themselves into "ropes" held together by Van der Waals forces. Under high pressure, nanotubes can merge together, trading some sp² bonds for sp³ bonds, giving the possibility of producing strong, unlimited-length wires through high-pressure nanotube linking."

Only two facts are important - radiators are built into the armor of the spacecraft and they are thermal.
We cannot create an effective energy shield, but people learned how to create a magnetic force fields reflecting particles back in the 20th century. UNSC simply adapted this technology. This is not an energy shield, such as the plasma shield shown here: https://youtu.be/CroLulZIhCA

For radiators, the following is stated. Halo Mythos: "Titanium-A armor embedded with thermal superconducting radiators" p. 83 There is no word here about the radiator removing heat from inside the ship, but an indication is given that this is part of the reservation. I tried to explain how this works in a note. A radiator is something that radiates something. It may be a magnetic field. It does not cool or heat. It can radiate heat or microwave radiation, but that’s not what it does.
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 Does anyone know if there is an article for what armor the Covenant used instead?[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''</span>]] 05:20, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
-==Superconducting Radiators==
 Speculative content this is "to more efficiently transfer the heat generated by the ship into space". Unlike the content of these words, i described the principle of operation of magnetic armor, and also added assumptions that are used everywhere in an attempt to substantiate certain properties. For example, on the page about nanotubes, an assumption about their hybridization is used.
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 We cannot create an effective energy shield, but people learned how to create a magnetic force fields reflecting particles back in the 20th century. UNSC simply adapted this technology. This is not an energy shield, such as the plasma shield shown here: https://youtu.be/CroLulZIhCA
-For radiators, the following is stated. Halo Mythos: "Titanium-A armor embedded with thermal superconducting radiators" p. 83 There is no word here about the radiator removing heat from inside the ship, but an indication is given that this is part of the reservation. I tried to explain how this works in a note. A radiator is something that radiates something. It may be a magnetic field. It does not cool or heat. It can radiate heat or microwave radiation, but that’s not what it does. {{Unsigned|Legion1984}}
+For radiators, the following is stated. Halo Mythos: "Titanium-A armor embedded with thermal superconducting radiators" p. 83 There is no word here about the radiator removing heat from inside the ship, but an indication is given that this is part of the reservation. I tried to explain how this works in a note. A radiator is something that radiates something. It may be a magnetic field. It does not cool or heat. It can radiate heat or microwave radiation, but that’s not what it does.
-:Okay this is gonna be a long one.
-::''and also added assumptions that are used everywhere in an attempt to substantiate certain properties.''
-:This is the issue, such assumptions are not to be placed on pages. The section you mention on the nanotube page, unless specifically talked about in a relevant official Halo source, should ''also'' be rewritten.  As for the second part about the energy shield, this is completely unfounded and irrelevant to Halo, and the primary issue people take issue with being put on the page. Saying the thermal radiator radiates heat is fine, starting to talk about magnetism and energy shields has nothing to do with it and classes as unfounded speculation. It might be fine for a Spacebattles debate or something but for our purposes it has no place here. What we can do IRL ''now'' has pretty much zero bearing on what 343 decides is the case with Halo's lore.
-:Such speculation has led to a lot of errors being accepted by the general fanbase in the past and even making its way into canon material, and we're a lot less lenient on it now because of these prior issues. I'm sorry if you take issue with this, but the site stance is clear. Also, please sign your posts using <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 08:47, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
-::The problem is that the word "radiator" does not indicate a refrigerator or a microwave in any way since a radiator is any device that emits something. UNSC did not have “energy shields”, but there were “force fields”. Effectively protecting the ship from a two-ton hypersonic tungsten meteorite — we cannot yet, but creating a magnetic field around the ship — is being explored by NASA: https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2018_Phase_I_Phase_II/Spacecraft_Scale_Magnetospheric_Protection_from_Galactic_Cosmic_Radiation/
-::Superconductivity can be used to create antennas, but the context clearly indicates that radiators are an element of a reservation. They are built into the armor, and although I cannot indicate the forms, their purpose is obvious.
-::Certainly UNSC magnetic armor will look more like outdated Soviet armor than armor created by NASA. This is logical if you can create nanoscale structures. As with nanotubes, this also makes understanding easier. However, even now there are nanotubes containing an SP carbine core. {{Unsigned|Legion1984}}
-:::Okay, clearly you're not actually listening here so I'm gonna skip the talk and lay it out simple; '''''this content does not count as valid information for use on Halopedia. What happens with real spacecraft has no effect on what we put on our pages here.''''' There is no debate on the matter, and nothing you present as evidence short of an official quote from a '''''Halo source or 343 developer''''' will change this. [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 09:04, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
-::::Besides that superconducting armor on spacecraft is used to protect against plasma ... {{Unsigned|Legion1984}}